I hope this is the right location for this post, more akin to a rant, but I had to get this out. While my wife and I have enjoyed, not recently as it has been way too busy, reading different posts and introductions and truly value the information and education we get from this site....we also have tried to locate some local groups. What an effort in futility that has been!! We live away from town and rarely enjoy going into to town but thought we would try the web to see if any groups posted, and found several. The frustration comes from what we read when looking at the information. Every group we looked at locally seemed to take what we value as a wonderful, spiritual and enriching thing and turns into a political, disgusting (opinion) and sex riddled circus. Is it too much to ask to simply meet people who believe that a man can love more than one woman, that respect within the relationships is mutually satisfying, that a strong and caring man who values morals, "old school" traditions and wants to pass those things and more on through the generations....is it? Each and every group has their own twist to what a "poly" relationship is, that for some reason you have to accept gay poly, bdsm poly, bi poly.....blah blah blah....in order to "live the lifestyle" I am sorry if it offends and maybe I will be shunned but I do not believe those things, I am not ok with trans gender, gender neutral, bdsm, etc. Judge me if you wish but if a man follows my wife, daughter or grand daughter into a bathroom I do not care how he associates himself or his sexual identity I will respond to what I deem a threat...period, no questions asked, no fluffy feel good talk, it will be physical removal from the location until I deem you no longer a threat to my family. Somehow this now makes me the bad guy, rigid, unforgiving, crude...and a whole bunch of other descriptions. When did we turn down this path? I am just frustrated.....sorry again and thank you for being here.