Identifying the Unicorn

[Justin32]

Cecil's apology:

Gents, I have made a booboo, for which I apologize.

While trying to split the"Don't search for a wife, you won't find her" topic in two, as the argument over unicorns, while interesting, is not precisely (or even remotely) a marriage one, I inadvertently lost the posts on the main topic. No idea how I did it. If I managed to attach them somewhere else, and someone runs across them, let me know and I'll get it all fixed up.

In the meantime, here's the remaining unicorn discussion. Enjoy.


Justin's part:

... So before anyone thinks that a wife is mythical like a unicorn ... SweetLissa

I just have something to say about unicorns, If anyone thinks they are a myth, then se what what GOD has to say about them in Job 39:9-12
You must read this out of the TRUE WORD of GOD, the King James Bible, because other bibles our missing verse's and have changed meanings of GOD's HOLY WORD. If you don't believe me, then see the evidence at http://www.chick.com and click on Bible versions and all the info they got showing the truth,etc.

Take care and GOD Bless

 

[Scarecrow]

Re: Stop Looking For A Wife: You Won't Find One

...ok...I'll bite...what does an Ox have to do with mythical unicorns?

Job 39:9-12 "Is the wild ox* willing to serve you? Will he spend the night at your manger? Can you bind him in the furrow with ropes, or will he harrow the valleys after you? Will you depend on him because his strength is great, and will you leave to him your labor? Do you have faith in him that he will return your grain and gather it to your threshing floor?

..."What do an Ox and a Unicorn have in common?" = ??????? (waiting for the punch line)...

*commentaries consider the animal a rhinoceros, wild buffalo, gazelle, and other such animals that actually exist or existed at the time.

 

[CecilW]

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For whatever it is worth, Scarecrow, I just did a word search and found 5 references to unicorns in Scripture.

Dodo birds and many other species have become extinct, to our knowledge. No reason to think that unicorns are not simply among them, is there?

Dunno why Justin32 felt it important to make a point of that either, tho. *wry grin*

 

[Scarecrow]

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how do they say unicorn in Hebrew? Perhaps another case of loose translation? I would think that we would have at least one fossil record of some sort of a unicorn...but then again there is the narwhal...Stop looking for a wife to narwals...hmmm

 

[Justin32]

Re: Stop Looking For A Wife: You Won't Find One

...ok...I'll bite...what does an Ox have to do with mythical unicorns?

Job 39:9-12 "Is the wild ox* willing to serve you? Will he spend the night at your manger? Can you bind him in the furrow with ropes, or will he harrow the valleys after you? Will you depend on him because his strength is great, and will you leave to him your labor? Do you have faith in him that he will return your grain and gather it to your threshing floor?

..."What do an Ox and a Unicorn have in common?" = ??????? (waiting for the punch line)...

*commentaries consider the animal a rhinoceros, wild buffalo, gazelle, and other such animals that actually exist or existed at the time.

I am sorry everybody... I forgot to mention something about the Unicorn in Job 39:9-12 you have read it from THE TRUE WORD of GOD... THE KING JAMES BIBLE
It is not an OX like some other bibles say it is.
That is the problem with the modern bibles, they are corrupting GOD's TRUE WORD.
I heard people on here talking like they think Unicorns are a myth, well I just want them to know the TRUTH from GOD's WORD that they are NOT!

GOD Bless everyone

 

[Justin32]

Re: Stop Looking For A Wife: You Won't Find One

For whatever it is worth, Scarecrow, I just did a word search and found 5 references to unicorns in Scripture.

Dodo birds and many other species have become extinct, to our knowledge. No reason to think that unicorns are not simply among them, is there?

Dunno why Justin32 felt it important to make a point of that either, tho. *wry grin*

I just want people to know the TRUTH instead of being decieved into believing something is a myth when it is real or was real in a past time.
I used to wonder about Unicorns.. did they exist or not and not to long ago the LORD revealed it to me in HIS TRUE WORD, the King James Bible,etc.

GOD Bless you all

 

[Scarecrow]

Re: Stop Looking For A Wife: You Won't Find One

I guess the important thing to me is that people realize that the mythical unicorn that we usually think of when we hear the word "unicorn" is not the animal the scriptures are talking about.

"The elasmotherium, an extinct giant rhinoceros, provides another possibility for the unicorn’s identity. The elasmotherium’s 33-inch-long skull has a huge bony protuberance on the frontal bone consistent with the support structure for a massive horn. In fact, archaeologist Austen Henry Layard, in his 1849 book Nineveh and Its Remains, sketched a single-horned creature from an obelisk in company with two-horned bovine animals; he identified the single-horned animal as an Indian rhinoceros. The biblical unicorn could have been the elasmotherium."

"However, the linguistics of the text cannot conclusively prove how many horns the biblical unicorn had. While modern translations typically translate re’em as “wild ox,” the King James Version (1611), Luther’s German Bible (1534), the Septuagint, and the Latin Vulgate translated this Hebrew word with words meaning “one-horned animal.”

The importance of the biblical unicorn is not so much its specific identity—much as we would like to know—but its reality. The Bible is clearly describing a real animal. The unicorn mentioned in the Bible was a powerful animal possessing one or two strong horns—not the fantasy animal that has been popularized in movies and books. Whatever it was, it is now likely extinct like many other animals. To think of the biblical unicorn as a fantasy animal is to demean God’s Word, which is true in every detail."

http://www.answersingenesis.org/article ... s-in-bible

 

[FollowingHim]

Re: Stop Looking For A Wife: You Won't Find One

Scarecrow, excellent reference, and it makes a lot of sense in the context. I particularly like Job 39-41, as the text describes a number of obviously real animals, then goes on to discuss Behemoth and Leviathan in great detail. In context it is very clear that these also were real animals that people of the day were familiar with, yet their descriptions resemble dinosaurs more than anything that is alive today, showing the secular view that dinosaurs died out "millions of years ago" to be nonsense and yielding a sensible explanation for the dragon legends common to most cultures.

 

[FollowingHim]

Re: Stop Looking For A Wife: You Won't Find One

You must read this out of the TRUE WORD of GOD, the King James Bible, because other bibles our missing verse's and have changed meanings of GOD's HOLY WORD. If you don't believe me, then see the evidence at http://www.chick.com and click on Bible versions and all the info they got showing the truth,etc.

Ok, and I'll bite on this one!

I've got an uncle who is obsessed with Chick publications also. I've grown up with brochures of how the KJV is the only true word of God and how Catholics are the most evil creatures to ever walk the earth. Every Chick publication presents their beliefs as absolute unarguable fact and you'll burn in hell if you don't believe them (cue black-and-white-cartoon-fire-with-people-in-it).

The thing Chick forget is that THEY are heretics too. And YOU are a heretic. And I am a heretic, and so is Scarecrow. Because we all disagree on something to do with God, unless one of us is Christ in disguise (which I highly doubt!), then each of us MUST be wrong about something - we can't all be right. That means our beliefs are all heretical somewhere, and we don't know where - but it's nothing to panic about.

There is only ONE thing we must do to be saved - accept Jesus as our Lord (Acts 16:31). That's it. It's very simple. The rest is very important also, but ultimately it isn't something to get so worked up about.

I firmly believe the Catholic church has a lot of very poor theology. But one place where I have most strongly felt the Holy Spirit is a Catholic monastery - because where you have so many people devoted to God, He truly is there working in and through them, even if they've got some of the details wrong. Yet Chick expend a massive amount of effort on infighting within the Church against these people who are doing their best to serve Christ as they best understand Him. Would it not be better to put this effort into drawing in new converts, into any denomination where they accept Jesus as Lord?

So back to the King James version - Chick is dead right that there are some major problems with many modern Bible versions. But they fail to recognise that there could possibly be anything wrong with their pet version. They put a lot of effort into showing all the differences, which are important. But where there is a difference they generally just presume the KJV is correct and say the other one must be evil because it is different. They have complete faith in something that is not scriptural (how best to translate Hebrew into English is not outlined in the Bible!). There's no reasoning with them, they just SHOUT at you that THE KING JAMES VERSION IS THE ONLY TRUE WORD OF GOD so YOU MUST USE IT or you ARE being DECEIVED by an EVIL MODERN THEOLOGIAN who has SATAN sitting on his shoulder in wonderful cartoon form, or something like that.

And this makes me particularly sad as the issue of how best to translate and understand God's word is so very important. It is a central feature of so many of the discussions on this website (What is a concubine? When is sombody married in God's eyes? Can you marry a divorcee? - everything comes back to the translation of scripture). We MUST understand what He is saying to us through His word in order to follow Him, so we must avoid getting worked up and putting people off discussing this critical issue. I find Chick's inflexible position particularly counterproductive for this reason.

It is very important to have deep theological discussions and come to understand what God is saying to us through His word. But shouting at people that your version is the only truth doesn't help either you or them, it just rubs people up the wrong way and prevents a sensible deep discussion. Every cult does that, and sadly Chick falls into it also.

 

[Scarecrow]

Re: Stop Looking For A Wife: You Won't Find One

I wasn't aware of the "Chick" organization until now...but they have all the earmarks of a cult...

Hey!!! I just had an idea! What if they got together with another cult and formed a new and improved cult? They could call themselves...

Jehovah's Chicks

:lol:

 

[CecilW]

Ok, this one is wa-a-a-ay off topic, but is, more or less Biblical.

I'm moving the discussion from the finding a wife thread to this one, for those who feel it necessary to discuss ...

Cheers!

 

[Paul not the apostle]

LOL at this thread!

Does this one true version of God's Word use shem tov's Hebrew Matthew? Cause if not then they are all HERETICS! HERETICS!


:shock: :? :lol: :x :evil: :roll: :!: :?: :idea: :arrow: :| :mrgreen: :geek: :ugeek:

 

[Paul not the apostle]

LOL at this thread!

Does this one true version of God's Word use shem tov's Hebrew Matthew? Cause if not then they are all HERETICS! HERETICS!


:shock: :? :lol: :x :evil: :roll: :!: :?: :idea: :arrow: :| :mrgreen: :geek: :ugeek:

Just ask Nehemiah Gordon and Michael Rood.

 

[CecilW]

Actually, the definitive proof is found in 1st Opinions 3:16 ... :lol:

 

[FollowingHim]

Re: Stop Looking For A Wife: You Won't Find One

Jehovah's Chicks

I'll remember to ask you for name suggestions next time I start a new cult!

I too noticed the similarity there, but didn't make the comparison because although both stick fervently by their one true Bible, at least Chick have picked a pretty solid.translation, unlike the Jehovah's Witnesses version which has been deliberately edited to support their teachings. And I thought I'd probably caused enough offence already...