This question and discussion is being confined to this area for the obvious reason:
what I contend is the only logical answer will offendsome many. But, wait just a darn minute -
so does ANY discussion of polygyny that "implies" His Word means what it says!
I won't repeat what has already been said elsewhere: owners of a property, including a website, can (in theory, that is - if we still had a free country
) do anything they want with it.
And I'm a big proponent of Biblical polygyny, and all that it implies, and the blessings that should flow from obedience to His Word.
But therein lies the rub. I can ONLY do that faithfully, before Him, IFF (IF, and ONLY IF) I acknowledge that what He says, repeatedly, is True: He changes NOT, is the same, "yesterday, today, and tomorrow," and didn't change so much as a tiny "yod or tiddle" of His Written Instruction for us.
So: Let me be clear, so there's no doubt. I never DEMAND that people take a second wife (or any, for that matter - some just aren't fit) or even must believe as I do. Nor do I demand that they "keep" (which they really can't do anyway, 'cause we're in exile) His 'moedim,' or use honest weights for 'money', or eat what He says is good for you, or love their neighbor, or even avoid killing their kids with the Poison-Poke-of-the-Day.
And I don't argue with Good Catholics about the 'primacy of Scipture,' because THEY DON'T ACCEPT that premise. Their primary postulate, enforced historically on pain of death, is that 'the pope is infallible' (sometimes) - and that laity can't possibly read and interpret 'the bible' for themselves anyway. You can't argue about 'truth' without a shared basis for Truth.
Which is why I have a problem with some of the 'false dichotomy' that I see here, on occasion, when it comes to Scripture:
Most here accept that, even though we grew up in a culture which admittedly LIED TO US about it, what Our Creator, and the Author of Scripture, Wrote about "marriage" is "TRUE," period. And we'd be better off if we learned that lesson, and how to "walk in it."
So far, so good.
Where I have a problem is the "logical disconnect." And, no, I really can't ignore it:
(And here, I'll drop the 'velvet glove,' and say it as I am wont to. )
If the 'whore church' CHANGED what He Wrote about marriage (and that's another thread, oft noted here, and easy to show) and that is "BAD," and we need to get it Right...
...then do we at least need to be consistent?
Can we "pick and choose," from His Word, based on our baggage, our 'xtian prejudices,' or the "traditions of the elders," or some dead papal edict, and say, "BUT, He got THIS, or THAT, or whatever, wrong?"
I can deal with literally ANY argument against 'polygyny' FROM SCRIPTURE. Because what He Wrote is True. But I can't do it without being able to say that His Word, ALL of it, As Written, is True.
what I contend is the only logical answer will offend
so does ANY discussion of polygyny that "implies" His Word means what it says!
I won't repeat what has already been said elsewhere: owners of a property, including a website, can (in theory, that is - if we still had a free country
) do anything they want with it. And I'm a big proponent of Biblical polygyny, and all that it implies, and the blessings that should flow from obedience to His Word.
But therein lies the rub. I can ONLY do that faithfully, before Him, IFF (IF, and ONLY IF) I acknowledge that what He says, repeatedly, is True: He changes NOT, is the same, "yesterday, today, and tomorrow," and didn't change so much as a tiny "yod or tiddle" of His Written Instruction for us.
So: Let me be clear, so there's no doubt. I never DEMAND that people take a second wife (or any, for that matter - some just aren't fit) or even must believe as I do. Nor do I demand that they "keep" (which they really can't do anyway, 'cause we're in exile) His 'moedim,' or use honest weights for 'money', or eat what He says is good for you, or love their neighbor, or even avoid killing their kids with the Poison-Poke-of-the-Day.
And I don't argue with Good Catholics about the 'primacy of Scipture,' because THEY DON'T ACCEPT that premise. Their primary postulate, enforced historically on pain of death, is that 'the pope is infallible' (sometimes) - and that laity can't possibly read and interpret 'the bible' for themselves anyway. You can't argue about 'truth' without a shared basis for Truth.
Which is why I have a problem with some of the 'false dichotomy' that I see here, on occasion, when it comes to Scripture:
Most here accept that, even though we grew up in a culture which admittedly LIED TO US about it, what Our Creator, and the Author of Scripture, Wrote about "marriage" is "TRUE," period. And we'd be better off if we learned that lesson, and how to "walk in it."
So far, so good.
Where I have a problem is the "logical disconnect." And, no, I really can't ignore it:
(And here, I'll drop the 'velvet glove,' and say it as I am wont to.
)If the 'whore church' CHANGED what He Wrote about marriage (and that's another thread, oft noted here, and easy to show) and that is "BAD," and we need to get it Right...
...then do we at least need to be consistent?
Can we "pick and choose," from His Word, based on our baggage, our 'xtian prejudices,' or the "traditions of the elders," or some dead papal edict, and say, "BUT, He got THIS, or THAT, or whatever, wrong?"
I can deal with literally ANY argument against 'polygyny' FROM SCRIPTURE. Because what He Wrote is True. But I can't do it without being able to say that His Word, ALL of it, As Written, is True.
