Study request: What is an abomination?

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Re: Study request: What is an abomination?

Postby DiscussingTheTopic » Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:32 am

So I was trying to do research on this topic. And blatantly pro-homosexual websites. Tried to claim that it was about idol worship with shrine prostitutes in lev 18 and 20 not man on man. They said something like it is an abomination means it is an idol. After all their were other commands in the Bible against Shrine prostitution.

I will leave it to you to refute this argument. Using either old or new testament verses. I want to see how someone other than me would refute it, so that I see more ways to refute it.

Thou shalt notH3808 lieH7901 withH854 mankind,H2145 as withH4904 womankind:H802 itH1931 is abomination.H8441
Leviticus 18:22

H8441
תּעבה תּועבה
tô‛êbah tô‛êbah
to-ay-baw', to-ay-baw'
Feminine active participle of H8581; properly something disgusting (morally), that is, (as noun) an abhorrence; especially idolatry or (concretely) an idol: - abominable (custom, thing), abomination.
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Re: Study request: What is an abomination?

Postby Tlaloc » Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:41 pm

Abomination is used many times with no relation to idols, Idolatry is one abomination, and there are many others. I even listed quite a few non-idolatry related abominations in my first post here. Its a nonsense argument.

I don't know if it takes any more than that to refute it.
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Re: Study request: What is an abomination?

Postby DiscussingTheTopic » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:21 pm

DiscussingTheTopic wrote:So I was trying to do research on this topic. And blatantly pro-homosexual websites. Tried to claim that it was about idol worship with shrine prostitutes in lev 18 and 20 not man on man. They said something like it is an abomination means it is an idol. After all their were other commands in the Bible against Shrine prostitution.

I will leave it to you to refute this argument. Using either old or new testament verses. I want to see how someone other than me would refute it, so that I see more ways to refute it.

Thou shalt notH3808 lieH7901 withH854 mankind,H2145 as withH4904 womankind:H802 itH1931 is abomination.H8441
Leviticus 18:22

H8441
תּעבה תּועבה
tô‛êbah tô‛êbah
to-ay-baw', to-ay-baw'
Feminine active participle of H8581; properly something disgusting (morally), that is, (as noun) an abhorrence; especially idolatry or (concretely) an idol: - abominable (custom, thing), abomination.


Since no one responded for a while to my question.

I am just going to mention that even if you some pro-homosexual tried to argue that Leviticus 18 does not prohibit man with man Romans 1:27 does prohibit man with man clearly. So such arguments are irrelevant.
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Re: Study request: What is an abomination?

Postby Tlaloc » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:35 pm

Er, I did respond. Abomination is translated from several different roots and even when it relates to idolatry it is the large set where idolatry is one case. Abomination does not mean it is an idol or idolitry, and there is no indication whatsoever that either of these passages in any way relates to idolatry or temple prostitution.

Read strongs definition again but more carefully this time.

What is it does the root mean?

Something disgusting or abhorrent

What is a common example of this?

Idolatry

When he says "especially X" X is not what the word means but is a common example of what that word is applied too.

They've created an argument out of bad reading skills and no evidence whatsoever. I don't know what more you want to refute it.
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Re: Study request: What is an abomination?

Postby DiscussingTheTopic » Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:06 pm

Tlaloc wrote:
Idolatry

When he says "especially X" X is not what the word means but is a common example of what that word is applied too.

They've created an argument out of bad reading skills and no evidence whatsoever. I don't know what more you want to refute it.


That is useful to know I always wondered what some of the symbols on the strong's meant (notice I did not copy and paste an X (or is X a symbol you use for fill in the blank that is not actually in the writing directly?)) I get my strong definitions from either e-sword or blueletterbible.org

I noticed that strong's on the computer program look different than on the website!
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