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Analize this guy's arguments for me...

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daPastor has argued with Eads a lot. He actually offered to do a full scale debate and publish the findings but the guy "didn't have time." He considers polygamy to be a minor sin. I believe I still have the emails in my inbox. We used my box because it didn't have any names on it.

SweetLissa
 
I'll have to take a longer look at it to give you a genuine response to a question like that, Maria.

On second thought, after I read a bit further...no, I'll go ahead now!

I will admit, however, that I recall having seen the site (or at least one a lot like it :( ) before, and leaving quickly after thinking something to the effect of...well, probably best not to print it...


Politely phrased, however, it's a flatulent argument:

He STARTS with things like (in this order, no less!)
- Adultery
- Prostitution
- Homosexuality

and THEN makes this utterly asinine comment:

"s polygamy next? After that, what will be the next sins that our society will accept?"

What do you expect from someone so blind to the teachings of Scripture that he doesn't understand the difference between something God prohibits, or not only prohibits but calls "abomination" -- and something that He calls Himself?! :twisted:

From there, quite frankly, it gets worse. He utterly ignores the specific polygyny references in Exodus and Deuteronomy, just plain lies about the "seal of approval" (as if the Book of II Samuel did not exist), lies about the "his own/her own" reference in Corinthians, and lies about Moses' Cushite (Ethiopian) wife...among too many others to tolerate. It is one thing to disagree with someone about an honest reading of Scripture. What I see here is another thing entirely - and utterly detestable!

He should read Hosea 4:6 and see what God said about those who "reject knowledge", or any of Yeshua's warnings about teachers being held to a higher standard.


In His Love,

Mark
 
PS> When it comes to debates, Lissa, it's probably better that it be Randy than me. I suspect he would be considerably nicer than I would. It's one thing to have "iron sharpen iron" with a brother, but I will admit that to see someone deliberately LIE about "what the Bible says" with such hubris does REALLY tend to ...
...well, you know.

I'd probably end up quoting Matthew 23 a LOT! ;)
 
ok,

What about the second one with the verses about multiplication? I read that "multiplying" was different than "adding" wives and horses and such. Anyway, I agree that Lissa's hubby is a very diplomatic debater. But we need all kinds in the body of Christ even the fiery ones! :)
 
He does have that diplomatic quality when discussing theology. I appreciate that about him, since he often uses my email address to do it.

LOL
SweetLissa
 
I don't know the scripture and I didn't go check out the website, but here is what we have said about multiplying wives v adding a wife.

God is about relationships. The king who was accused of multiplying wives was not involved with those wives. Who could be? He was multiplying wives for any reason but relationships. Most of them were for political reasons.

Lets say the difference is like the difference between running a daycare for 1000 kids and being a nanny to 2 kids. You build relationships as a nanny and in a daycare you simply have a place where children are kept safe while their parents are absent. The caregivers come and go and are easily replaced. There are no relationships built there.

SweetLissa
 
Okay, now I have read the article.

So it is not okay to have lots of money? Or to have lots of horses? How can a kingdom exist with only one horse or not much money? The man confuses himself.

If an army has only one horse it will lose every battle. But if the kingdom has so many horses that it cannot care for them all, then that is the sin.

If a kingdom has no money, it will not flourish because it takes money to run a kingdom. But if the kingdom has so much money that it is not being used or not being planned for use, then there is the sin because the money could be doing some good for someone else instead of lying around collecting dust. (Pick me Pick me)

And if you have so many wives that you cannot create relationships with them, then there is the sin. If you have more wives than you can care for, then you are probably depriving some other man of a wife.

Just my thoughts on the subject.

SweetLissa
 
sweetlissa said:
I don't know the scripture and I didn't go check out the website, but here is what we have said about multiplying wives v adding a wife.

God is about relationships. The king who was accused of multiplying wives was not involved with those wives. Who could be? He was multiplying wives for any reason but relationships. Most of them were for political reasons.

Lets say the difference is like the difference between running a daycare for 1000 kids and being a nanny to 2 kids. You build relationships as a nanny and in a daycare you simply have a place where children are kept safe while their parents are absent. The caregivers come and go and are easily replaced. There are no relationships built there.

SweetLissa
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I have seen this said quite a few times here, but I don't think that's how it was. For one, it says King Solomon loved many foreign women. It says God said such and such but "Nevertheless, Solomon held fast to them in love." That doesn't sound political to me. That sounds like love, overflowing. And the problem wasn't how he loved them, or how many he loved, but that he loved them so much that he showed more love to them than to God, and followed them into their idolatry.

Now, it can be asked "How could he have an intimate relationship with all of them? That's crazy!" Well, how can a man have an intimate relationship with 2? 3? 5? 10? Can a man have a relationship with all his children if he has 50, plus 7 or so wives? It can and has been done. How could Solomon love 1000? Sorry, I'm not the wisest man on earth. I can't tell you. :mrgreen: But God says he did.
 
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