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i find it very troubling that many today are so dismissive of the Old Testament and any attempts to understand it and its culture.
please consider;
Act 17:10 ¶ And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming [thither] went into the synagogue of the Jews. 11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

what scriptures were they studying?
what scripture was paul teaching them from?

if paul's teaching was based on what was written in the Old Testament, (as was Yeshua's) why is it treated as no longer relevant?
 
There is nothing wrong with the O.T. Both the N.T. and the O.T. are important. The problem is that Paul's ministry was of Christ as found in the O.T. prophetically and included the O.T. as a a basis for Christ. Most Jews at the time did not believe in Christ. When God said Christ was his son and this pleased God, most Jews did not agree with God. They did not want Christ to be the son of God and the idea did not please them. Therefore the unique Jews you mentioned searched the Scriptures and found Paul's ministry of Christ to be true. This group of Jews were the exception, not the rule. The majority opinion of the Jews did not lead to finding Christ in the O.T. but rather led to the mocking, spitting and ultimate crucifixion. The O.T. can not stand alone without Christ.
1 Peter 4:16 NIV "However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name."
There is a difference between an approach to the O.T. that includes Christ and another which does not. Any approach to the O.T. that does not include Christ is easily anti-Christian or anti-Christ. There are many that have no desire to be labeled a Christian and want to be called something else. The idea of being baptized in the name of Jesus or in the name of Christ repulses them. It is so strange, but some don't want to be called a "Christian" but feel insulted if they are called a "non-Christian"! Remarkable! To me a Messianic Christian is a Christian, but a Messianic that does not see themselves as a Christian or never mentions Christ is not a Christian. Probably the thing that would help clarify the labeling is a Messianic Christian that defended the N.T. as fervently as the O.T. continuously. Leaving a defense of the N.T. to everyone but the Messianics makes for lonely Messianics.

Philippians 2:10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth.

It will happen....."at the name of Jesus" say it now or say it later. Jesus is Lord.
 
but of course Yeshua/Jesus is Lord.
i chose his lordship over my life at the age of 7. i just wish that i was better at letting him be lord of my life than i am.
 
steve said:
but of course Yeshua/Jesus is Lord.
i chose his lordship over my life at the age of 7. i just wish that i was better at letting him be lord of my life than i am.
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As do I also wish I was better at letting him be Lord. And I agree "Jesus is Lord"
 
steve said:
i find it very troubling that many today are so dismissive of the Old Testament and any attempts to understand it and its culture.
please consider;
Act 17:10 ¶ And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming [thither] went into the synagogue of the Jews. 11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

what scriptures were they studying?
what scripture was paul teaching them from?

if paul's teaching was based on what was written in the Old Testament, (as was Yeshua's) why is it treated as no longer relevant?
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I guess it depends on who you're hanging around;)

The Reformed Church we went to most recently was very faithful to preach from the OT as much, if not more than, the NT. The church we went to before that was just as faithful to the OT, with expository preaching through various OT books. However, I do remember different churches from my childhood that barely preached from the OT, except in the children's Sunday School.

There are a lot of "sticky situations" in the OT that many pastors would just as soon ignore rather than have to try to explain or understand:)

Katie
 
welltan said:
It will happen....."at the name of Jesus" say it now or say it later. Jesus is Lord.
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Very true but it doesn't end there. Jesus isn't just "Lord", He is also God incarnate.
 
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