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Day of Prayer and Fasting (Spiritual Warfare)

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There are two primary errors when it comes to spiritual warfare—over-emphasis and under-emphasis. Some blame every sin, every conflict, and every problem on demons that need to be cast out. Others completely ignore the spiritual realm and the fact that the Bible tells us our battle is against spiritual powers. The key to successful spiritual warfare is finding the biblical balance. Jesus sometimes cast demons out of people and sometimes healed people with no mention of the demonic. The apostle Paul instructs Christians to wage war against the sin in themselves (Romans 6) and to wage war against the evil one (Ephesians 6:10-18).

Ephesians 6:10-12 declares, “Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.” This text teaches some crucial truths: we can only be strong in the Lord’s power, it is God’s armor that protects us, and our battle is against spiritual forces of evil in the world.

A powerful example of someone strong in the Lord’s power is Michael, the archangel, in Jude 9. Michael, likely the most powerful of all of God’s angels, did not rebuke Satan in his own power, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” Revelation 12:7-8 records that in the end times Michael will defeat Satan. Still, when it came to his conflict with Satan, Michael rebuked Satan in God’s name and authority, not his own. It is only through our relationship with Jesus Christ that Christians have any authority over Satan and his demons. It is only in His Name that our rebuke has any power.

Ephesians 6:13-18 gives a description of the spiritual armor God gives us. We are to stand firm with the belt of truth, the breastplate of righteousness, the gospel of peace, the shield of faith, the helmet of salvation, the sword of the Spirit, and by praying in the Spirit. What do these pieces of spiritual armor represent in spiritual warfare? We are to speak the truth against Satan’s lies. We are to rest in the fact that we are declared righteous because of Christ’s sacrifice for us. We are to proclaim the gospel no matter how much resistance we receive. We are not to waver in our faith, no matter how strongly we are attacked. Our ultimate defense is the assurance we have of our salvation, an assurance that no spiritual force can take away. Our offensive weapon is the Word of God, not our own opinions and feelings. We are to follow Jesus’ example in recognizing that some spiritual victories are only possible through prayer.

Jesus is our ultimate example for spiritual warfare. Observe how Jesus handled direct attacks from Satan when He was tempted by him in the wilderness (Matthew 4:1-11). Each temptation was answered the same way—with the words “It is written.” Jesus knew the Word of the living God is the most powerful weapon against the temptations of the devil. If Jesus Himself used the Word to counter the devil, do we dare to use anything less?

The ultimate example of how not to engage in spiritual warfare is the seven sons of Sceva. “Some Jews who went around driving out evil spirits tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon-possessed. They would say, ‘In the name of Jesus, whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out.’ Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this. One day the evil spirit answered them, ‘Jesus I know, and I know about Paul, but who are you?’ Then the man who had the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. He gave them such a beating that they ran out of the house naked and bleeding” (Acts 19:13-16). The seven sons of Sceva were using Jesus’ name. That is not enough. The seven sons of Sceva did not have a relationship with Jesus; therefore, their words were void of any power or authority. The seven sons of Sceva were relying on a methodology. They were not relying on Jesus as their Lord and Savior, and they were not employing the Word of God in their spiritual warfare. As a result, they received a humiliating beating. May we learn from their bad example and conduct spiritual warfare as the Bible instructs.

In summary, what are the keys to success in spiritual warfare? First, we rely on God’s power, not our own. Second, we rebuke in Jesus’ Name, not our own. Third, we protect ourselves with the full armor of God. Fourth, we wage warfare with the sword of the Spirit—the Word of God. Finally, we remember that while we wage spiritual warfare against Satan and his demons, not every sin or problem is a demon that needs to be rebuked.

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"continued to treat the symptoms"

Do not be deceived, false teachers are not only among church leadership, our medical field is full of them too. Just as most preachers will teach monogamy because they were taught monogamy most doctors simply repeat what they have been taught!

My second oldest sister became weak, eventually her vision went black and white, then tunnel vision set in. She eventually became so weak she was only active for two hours a day. Her doctors (she had gone to a number of them as well as specialists) had her taking steroids and all kinds of other "medicines" but nothing seemed to help. Her friend urged her to see a holistic doctor she trusted and when she did she found that the medical doctors had completely misdiagnosed her problems and were treating the symptoms. She had Graves disease and with the proper natural medicines quickly and completely recovered.

I received an email some time ago from my oldest sister and thought of it immediately when reading your post. I searched my saved emails and documents to see if I could find it but I guess I deleted it. What I found surprising was that a medical doctor had instructed patients to decrease their salt intake for hypertension and diabetes. He had a few patients that started to improve and questioned them only to find that they had been disobeying him and had actually increased their salt intake. This puzzled the doctor and he explained the situation to other patients who volunteered to also increase their salt intake. As it turned out he began to see a marked improvement in most of his patients. He had them taking sea salt with minerals (some forms of sea salt have the minerals removed because they can be sold separately - real sea salt should be gray in color if the minerals are still present) and iodine because natural salt does not have much iodine. Also the information pointed out how salt was the binding factor for calcium in bones, and those with a healthy salt intake rarely suffered much bone loss as they got older.

http://www.ehow.com/way_5155157_sea-sal ... betes.html

I will ask my sister to resend that email and post it here if I can get it.
 
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For whatever it is worth, after having stayed healthy despite gaining my own weight again (more or less), then coming down a ways ...

I was diagnosed as diabetic about the same time as I began looking into marriage and PM in the Bible. The symptoms have progressed over the last 12 years and trashed me in many ways.

Furthermore, my present wife has become diabetic as well, and I see symptoms progressing.

Could this be a specific targeting mechanism of oppression towards those who are seriously seeking God's pattern in marriage? Possible.

If so, then God please ride to our rescue!
 
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Scarecrow, I've often wondered if all that medication might not be killing me...

Could this be a specific targeting mechanism of oppression towards those who are seriously seeking God's pattern in marriage? Possible.

That is a very serious possibility. And here's my suggestion: ALL of us go into prayer/fasting mode and call upon God to defeat this thing.

How about a National day of PM Prayer and Fasting, Nathan? Dr. Allen? Pastor John Whitten? CecilW? Scarecrow? DocInMo? Anyone else? Count my wife and me in for that one!

Maybe we should pattern our National Day of PM Prayer and Fasting after one of the successful revivals in the OT.

Remember, greater is He that is in us than he that is in the world!

Dr. Marvin George
"PolyDoc"
 
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I'm in...let's do it!
 
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Why not use the day this website went live as the day?

Or if not any other suggestions as for the day?

Dr. Allen
 
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Thank you for the positive response to my proposed National Day of PM Prayer and Fasting. Since I'm very new to this forum, I will defer to the wisdom of any staff member regarding the day, guidelines for fasting (those of us who are afflicted with diabetes might need to be careful...) and guidelines for prayer.

It occurred to me that even if diabetes is NOT some part of the enemy's plan to stop or hinder Biblical marriage, it still - ultimately - comes from Satan, NOT God. Therefore, a day of prayer and fasting will be in order, regardless of the REASON for diabetes afflicting so many of us. And in some cases, diabetes might be the result of bad lifestyle choices. Too much refined sugar in one's diet, for example. Or bad advice from those we trust in the medical field. Part of it might be genetic predisposition to diabetes. But it STILL is from Satan, NOT God.

No matter the WHY or HOW, God has the answer, and prayer and fasting is the Biblical prescription from Dr. Yeshua.

Someone want to set the day? (Make it an annual thing?) Anyone want to organize and publicize? (Organizing events is not my gifting, but I will do anything I can to help bring this about!) Maybe this needs to be moved out of the private member's forum.

Dr. Allen, great suggestion - but this newbie to the forum doesn't know what day the website went live! Please enlighten me? Also, it shouldn't be too far in the future, but we do need time to properly organize.

in His service, in His love,
Dr. Marvin George
"PolyDoc"
 
Dr George, I think it's a great idea, and I think we're in (Biblical Families staff) also. I'd like to propose Feb 4th, just because it's coming up soon, but not too soon, and we can get it mentioned in a newsletter before then (in a week or so). Also, let's make it International, as growth continues outside of the US. You are officially designated the 'originator' of the International Day of Biblical Plural Marriage Prayer and Fasting! Feel free to help us with ideas and a blurb for the newsletter. Actually, everyone: post your ideas here.

BTW: Feb 4th is a Friday this year, so that seems good, not much else going on around that time holiday-wise (unless you're still hungover from celebrating Groundhog day.... :-) Oh - 2 days before the SuperBowl, not a bad time to fast before junkfood feast, maybe.


OK, I just copied this thread to the fully public forums, and changed the topic, and left some of the pre-'Day of Prayer' posts out of the new thread.

Here's an idea: we have a conference call #, maybe we could set up 4 or 5 times during the day that folks could call in and pray together (or get prayed for also) - a different one of us could lead it each time.
 
Instead of picking a specific date, how about a specific day. What if the 4th was to fall on Super Bowl Sunday? Maybe it would be better to have the first Friday in February be the day.
 
Super Bowl on Feb 4th won't happen for next 7 years (at least), thanks to leap year in 2012. Let's keep it simple for now and call it Feb 4th for this year, and see what we think next year!
 
I recommend that we keep it as simple as possible as long as possible. Works better that way.
 
My thoughts on the International Day of Biblical Plural Marriage Prayer and Fasting are as follows:

1. Feb 4, 2011 should have a rather narrow focus - the original idea was to get rid of diabetes in the Biblical PM community. (Feb 4, 2012 might have a different focus than Feb. 4, 2011.) Therefore, there should be some way for those of us who participate to know the names of all who desire prayer. Maybe there should be some place in the private forum for each of us to post our own name (NEVER someone else's name unless we have that person's permission!) If such a list is made available, I will print it out and read the names from it in prayer. (As will my wife.) And not just during the International Day of Biblical Plural Marriage Prayer and Fasting, but any time the Lord reminds me to pray for my brothers and sisters.

2. Some might prefer to use the Gregorian calender, with a day ending and a new one beginning at midnite. Others (myself included) might prefer to use the Jewish calendar, with a day ending and a new one beginning at sundown on what the Gregorian calendar would call the day before. In other words, Friday, Feb 4, 2011, will start at sundown on what is Thursday, Feb 3, 2011, on the Gregorian calendar, and end at sundown, Friday, Feb 4.

3. It does not matter which calendar we choose, nor does it matter where in the world we are. What matters is that we are right with God and we are one in His spirit.

4. Also, those of us who are afflicted with diabetes might not be able to do a true, full fast for 24 hours. Hopefully, someone with experience in this will post suggestions - maybe fast one meal, or whatever. Again, remember what God told His prophet Samuel:

1 Samuel 16:7 NKJV But the LORD said to Samuel, "Do not look at his appearance or at his physical stature, because I have refused him. For the LORD does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart."

So what counts in God's eyes is what is in our heart, not so much the outward physical manifestation. I will fast in the physical realm as much as my physical condition will allow, but in my heart, I will be doing a complete fast for one full day.

From time to time, I will post articles suggesting how we should pray. I would also welcome such suggestions from others, especially BFF staff members.

One last thought for this post...we should not limit the scope of our prayers to only those who know and believe in Biblical Plural Marriage, but we need to reach out to all who might desire our prayers about diabetes.

Let's evict diabetes from the Biblical Plural Marriage community!

1 John 4:4 NKJV You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.

in His service, in His love,
Dr. Marvin George
"PolyDoc"
 
PS- I like the call-in prayer idea!

in His service, in His love,
Dr. Marvin George
"PolyDoc"
 
Thoughts from a diabetic faster ...

In August 2009, despite diabetes and neuropathy, etc., I fasted (water only) for 9 days. I quit, not due to medical complications but due to a simple lust for a big salad and baked potato. Silly me. At no point did my blood sugar fall to any dangerous level. ... nor did I take any meds.

This was not the only time. I have fasted repeatedly since being diagnosed as diabetic with no problems. As such, I've a few things to say that the doctors won't.

The problem for fasting as a diabetic is the meds.

If you choose to use insulin on an as-needed basis, rather than "the pills", fasting is real easy! Quit taking insulin at the same time you quit eating. Perhaps eat one more simple meal, preferably protein and vegetables. Let your blood sugar rise a bit. So what!? It's only going up so much. Then, with no more coming in ...

As you fast, it will slowly drop over several days. MAY even rise a bit at times. Don't worry about it. If you are not dumping insulin into your system, or going for an unusual day at the beach in your briefest swimsuit (Sunlight produces insulin in the body. Some diabetics HAVE gone into insulin shock and needed OJ.), you'll be just fine.

On a previous occasion, mine bottomed out at 65 and just stayed there for several days. Felt fine. Drove, attended meetings, taught a theologian about PM. :)

If you are taking pills, such as metformin, the only difference that seems likely is that it would make sense to cut out the meds 4 or so days ahead of time, and reduce your food intake gradually as the meds bleed out of your system.

However, I can't attest to much experience with fasting while on meds as I was persuaded by an older long-term diabetic to go the insulin as-needed route early on. Have never, ever had problems fasting other than my own blasted appetite -- which seems to be the point, right?
 
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