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Feminist Ideologies

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Fairlight said:
My point is that we didn't need a secular solution to address a spiritual problem. A God honoring way should of been found instead....
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You do not need it, but I need, my kinswomen need it, my friends need it, some of my neighbours need it....that is what I mean about the heart about tyranny Fairlight, just because you don't need it, does not mean it isn't needed.

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Most of the listed grievances that were "righted" by the feminist movement are inherently wrong in and of themselves. However, from a Christian's perspective, solving a problem in a way that doesn't base the solution on the Word of God just starts a whole new batch of problems, which is exactly what we see now in our society.

As a Christian, the only way to solve a problem is to find a solution based solely on what the Word teaches. If this is done completely, then there aren't more problems erupting because of an incomplete solution.
 
sola scriptura said:
Most of the listed grievances that were "righted" by the feminist movement are inherently wrong in and of themselves. However, from a Christian's perspective, solving a problem in a way that doesn't base the solution on the Word of God just starts a whole new batch of problems, which is exactly what we see now in our society.

As a Christian, the only way to solve a problem is to find a solution based solely on what the Word teaches. If this is done completely, then there aren't more problems erupting because of an incomplete solution.
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Well said and very true :)

Blessings,
Fairlight
 
Isabella said:
Dr. K.R. Allen said:
Oh I am not confused
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So then you have come to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins? Outside of that domain everyone is in the dark and without the light as Romans 3 teaches.
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Now that part IS confusing!!! :twisted:
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"You were made by God and for God, and until you understand that, life will never make sense."~
Rick Warren
 
Fairlight said:
"You were made by God and for God, and until you understand that, life will never make sense."~
Rick Warren
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Dear Mr. Warren,

I understand life, but not Dr. Allen.

Good day Sir!

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If it were not for feminists and their demands to be given the same rights as men, you would have NO OTHER CHOICE than to obey the commands of your father (until you got married) then your husband.
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i dont knw abt that....god has all power...he can bring abt any event and any blessing however he pleases. id rather think that god will bring about blessings and not place my trust and gratitude in a femi-nazi. does god use evil for good? sure i know that is so. let me ask you a quest. if your head tells you to vote a certain way or not to vote at all would you obey him? that is my point. i think god gave us a country of liberty through our fathers and thus i dont see it as the femi-nazis that really gave us our rights but rather the men who bled and died to give us this land. all men wrote the declaration of independence and it was them who led the way to set up a cntry that would evn give us the means to obtain those rights. . . . so to me evn the rights that developed r so bc of men who fought to make this cntry where such could take place. had it not been for those men we would not have had the seeds to grow to this right and freedom. so really men did give us the plan and the path to this not the femi-nazis as i see it.
 
Isabella said:
So you are saying women voting, being educated or driving is only a good thing if they are Christians? Women who want to do those things just because are......bad?

Woah.

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If someone votes and their vote is a bad choice sometimes it is better for them not to vote if it prevents the good choice (on an individual choice by choice basis.)

On the other hand being a Christian does not mean someone always votes correctly 100% of the time does it?
 
melody said:
If it were not for feminists and their demands to be given the same rights as men, you would have NO OTHER CHOICE than to obey the commands of your father (until you got married) then your husband.
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That is good in the cases when women want to make bad choices and their father or husband wants them to make good choices.
 
DiscussingTheTopic said:
If someone votes and their vote is a bad choice sometimes it is better for them not to vote if it prevents the good choice (on an individual choice by choice basis.)

On the other hand being a Christian does not mean someone always votes correctly 100% of the time does it?
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Who decides which choice is good or bad?
 
tigerlilyrose4u said:
The kitty on my keyboard just asked me where is Jesus. Said she was looking for him all over these threads but can't seem to find Him.
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A lot of important questions got locked by administration.

I could make a really good metaphorical play on words answering your question in regard to the sentence above, but I do not want this topic to be locked so I did not write the play on words I thought of about locked questions in regard to your question about "where is Jesus."
 
When using the Bible as the only source of truth, the choices a person makes would need to line up with what the Bible says are good choices. There are a lot of grey areas, at least in our minds, and that is why the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in a person's life is so important, because then the believer can rely upon the truth of God's Word interpreted through the instruction of the Holy Spirit.
 
Melody asks:
If your head tells you to vote a certain way, or not to vote at all, would you obey him?
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In a word...... NO... and secondly, my head is on my neck.

Our heavenly father gave us all something (including women if you can imagine that :D ) called FREE WILL. My earthly father certainly never "told me" what thoughts I could or could not have; my first husband didn't either.

We had discussions (also known as conversations) so that there was an exchange of facts, ideas, and opinions, where I would arrive at my own conclusions.

Melody continues with this statement:

...all men wrote the Declaration of Independance and it was them who led the way to...give us the means to obtain those rights.
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Hogwash.

When I went to school, we were required to take a semester of American Government. As I recall, our founding fathers were very much against a democracy per se, as they envisioned it would be government by the unfit. At that time, only white, male property owners aged twenty-one years or older were allowed to vote.

In 1776, John Adams, future American president wrote that "no good could come from attempting to alter the qualifications of voters. It tends to confound and destoy all distinctions, and prostrate all ranks to one common level."
 
When I went to school, we were required to take a semester of American Government. As I recall, our founding fathers were very much against a democracy per se, as they envisioned it would be government by the unfit. At that time, only white, male property owners aged twenty-one years or older were allowed to vote.

In 1776, John Adams, future American president wrote that "no good could come from attempting to alter the qualifications of voters. It tends to confound and destoy all distinctions, and prostrate all ranks to one common level."
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That is why they formed a republic rather than a democracy. Worked really good until the populace and special interest segments set about to turn it into a democracy. How's that working for us?
 
soo...blugrniz4u are you saying that if you were married and your husband( who would be your head) asked you not to vote or whatever you would anyway?
 
blugrniz4u said:
It has been alluded on this forum that having the aforementioned mindset is damaging and hurtful.

If believing and demanding that I (as a woman) have the right to 1) an education, 2) to vote, 3) to drive, 4) to sit on a jury, 5) hold a paying job outside of my home, then color me a feminist.

Is it possible for a woman to have these beliefs AND believe that Jesus Christ struck a tent in human flesh to die for her sins? Yes. This woman does.
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I would say that WE (all mankind) don't have a right to anything except eternal damnation. All the rest is gravy:)
 
In a word...... NO... and secondly, my head is on my neck.
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sounds like a feminist attitude to me.

here is what the bible says:
"the head of a wife is her husband" (1 Cor. 11:3)
"the woman is the glory of man and the woman was created for the man" (11:7-8)
"the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church . . . . so also wives should submit in EVERYTHING to their husbands" (Eph. 5:23-24)
"as sarah OBEYED Abraham calling him lord" (1 Peter 3:6).

i guess even some feminists believe in poly too....but a godly woman believes the bible and it says to obey. it is very simple and straight forward. if the head of the wife truly leads and truly makes a decision a truly godly woman will submit and follow.
 
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