Tlaloc
Member
Its a funny thing to write a testimonial, but when things happen they should be told. About three years ago I was working to get things going for my family, buying a house, working a lot, the usual things. I was doing excellently health wise, I biked a couple K a day and swam a couple k about once a week. That year I was starting to notice myself tiring out more easily than usual, but I continued to work hard through it. A few months after that I was tiring much easier, I went to my family physicians about it and was told it was most likely the new baby taking a toll and got told to exercise more ( I have a good doctor, but the suggestion to exercise more did not impress me because of what I said above) In the following months I got a job closer and started walking instead of biking, but I still worked hard otherwise. I got progressively more tired until one day on my way home form work I collapsed in the snow, it was cold. Eventually I regained enough muscle control to pull myself home by my arms, but I couldn't use my legs.
After a couple days I gradually regained control of my legs and got to walking a little, and went to the doctors. I was sent to the hospital and given a fairly comprehensive set of tests, then sent home. I tried to continue to work and for a few weeks I managed it by doing very little else, but I did wind up having to call in sick quite a bit on mornings I would wake up unable to walk again. I got laid off and got unemployment for a little while. In the meanwhile I got passed on to a specialist who had a two month waiting list (on rush) and was scheduled for an MRI, but when I got to the actual appointment the specialist gave me a different, totally irrelevant test that returned no information that we did not already have. I became a stay at home dad, and even that was very difficult and I started to learn methods of predicting when I would not be able to walk, and when I would collapse. Even then it was difficult to go out in case of a random collapse.
For a couple years it was learning to deal with it, and going to specialist appointments that gave me run-around tests while being told by all local doctors that I needed an MRI for a definitive diagnosis. That aside I had a symptomatic diagnosis of periodic paralysis, and strong indications that it was fibro-mialga related. A lot of my time dealt with finding ways to cope with pain and cope with the inability to do things. Life was about staying the course, doing as much as I could, and learning patience and endurance. About a year and a half in to the paralysis I had the situation understood, I had methods of managing it and patience through it. While I never did get an MRI what I had was reduced to a number of fibro-mialga related things with no real treatment (the only treatment that exists deals with trying to kill the muscle pain or using heavy steroids to counteract the fatigue, the later is bad treatment and I believe it is worse than no treatment in almost every long term way)
Polygyny was one of the things I had been looking into with my wife for several years, we where sure of our convictions at that point, but this and that have been two things that have become irrevocably tied. It was not long after this that I started posting on the Biblical Families forum, when paralyzed computer use was one of my methods of dealing with pain and I was looking to talk to other Christians that I could relate too on that topic. Supernatural healing, or direct healing, was something I was well familiar with even at that point, and many people had prayed for that for me at a distance, but I wasn't pursuing it at that point because it wasn't the right time for me to pursue. Not long after that it struck me that it was time for me to recover, but I did not know how at that point so I looked into going for a paid MRI in Alberta and perhaps to look into experimental treatment or some such thing.
Around that time Mr. Mossie arrived at Biblical Families to deal with the Isaiah prophecy issue. He created that discussion and one concerning healing theory, which I entered. After some discussion it became apparent that legitimately understood healing, and had been part of it in the past. It was interesting as before that I didn't have holy healing on my mind for lack of people with the ability around, it seemed like an opportunity that opened and I took it and asked him for a consultation. He came back with a list of actions that lined up with reason and scripture, so I got too them one by one. I got stumped at finding someone to do an anointing, and tarried on that for a while, but I was told that even from the start if I was on the right track the pain would be gone. It was, and anyone who knows anything about what I had will say how incredible and helpful that was.
In the end it was my good Pastor that did the anointing, he is a baptist pastor, but he reads the bible as it lays and said even from seminary (which was ceasationalist) that if anyone asked to do the things scripture outlined he would. He did, I am better. I lost a lot of muscle and am still not swimming 2K like I used too, but I'm gradually rebuilding strength, and just being able to do that is a releif.
Now, thats not quite the end of it. More than a few observations need to be made, and I'm going to make a few here. First, God does everything as per his plan, he doesn't need us, if we did not praise him the rocks would sing right? What we do for him is his gift to us, like we where little kids he lets us help out for our sakes, and gives us credit for things he did the majority of. Thats a pretty basic description of what God working through us and gifts of God are about.
I want to tie that in to peoples attitude to spiritual gifts now. Perhaps not many people see it, but in the last decades people don't want to be associated with spiritual gifts. The first root of this is the snakeoil people that fake them, people with real gifts don't want to be confused or associated with liars in any way. The second, deeper root is that gifts today are idealized. Its only said out loud among ceasationalists, but its in the back of all our minds that the real gift of healing should be able to heal anyone, the real prophet should know basically everything, the real thing is 100% every time like a professional athlete. But wait, even pro's don't hit 100% on free throws.
The gifts are about being part of what God's doing. They come in much more powerful and wonderful forms than what my pastor or Mr. Mossie did in this example, but that doesn't negate what they where part of. My faithfulnes was integral to to Gods work in this case, that much is given. But Raymond Mossie's knowledge of healing is not the natural sort of understanding, weather he likes it or not its part of the gift of healing, he can say its on a low level or small, but it is what it is. There is no way to escape that he said do this and you will be healed and it happened just as he said. My pastors faithfull action and annointing was vitally nessisary to the procces just as scripture says, and it was a step of faith on his part to belive God and scripture over his training and his coleages (who are mostly ceasationalist). He annointed someone, they where healed, the fact is there. Both of these people would not like to be told they have the gift of healing, both would deny it, but one said do this and it happened, the other annointed and healed. We all know its about God, but God chose them to do it.
After a couple days I gradually regained control of my legs and got to walking a little, and went to the doctors. I was sent to the hospital and given a fairly comprehensive set of tests, then sent home. I tried to continue to work and for a few weeks I managed it by doing very little else, but I did wind up having to call in sick quite a bit on mornings I would wake up unable to walk again. I got laid off and got unemployment for a little while. In the meanwhile I got passed on to a specialist who had a two month waiting list (on rush) and was scheduled for an MRI, but when I got to the actual appointment the specialist gave me a different, totally irrelevant test that returned no information that we did not already have. I became a stay at home dad, and even that was very difficult and I started to learn methods of predicting when I would not be able to walk, and when I would collapse. Even then it was difficult to go out in case of a random collapse.
For a couple years it was learning to deal with it, and going to specialist appointments that gave me run-around tests while being told by all local doctors that I needed an MRI for a definitive diagnosis. That aside I had a symptomatic diagnosis of periodic paralysis, and strong indications that it was fibro-mialga related. A lot of my time dealt with finding ways to cope with pain and cope with the inability to do things. Life was about staying the course, doing as much as I could, and learning patience and endurance. About a year and a half in to the paralysis I had the situation understood, I had methods of managing it and patience through it. While I never did get an MRI what I had was reduced to a number of fibro-mialga related things with no real treatment (the only treatment that exists deals with trying to kill the muscle pain or using heavy steroids to counteract the fatigue, the later is bad treatment and I believe it is worse than no treatment in almost every long term way)
Polygyny was one of the things I had been looking into with my wife for several years, we where sure of our convictions at that point, but this and that have been two things that have become irrevocably tied. It was not long after this that I started posting on the Biblical Families forum, when paralyzed computer use was one of my methods of dealing with pain and I was looking to talk to other Christians that I could relate too on that topic. Supernatural healing, or direct healing, was something I was well familiar with even at that point, and many people had prayed for that for me at a distance, but I wasn't pursuing it at that point because it wasn't the right time for me to pursue. Not long after that it struck me that it was time for me to recover, but I did not know how at that point so I looked into going for a paid MRI in Alberta and perhaps to look into experimental treatment or some such thing.
Around that time Mr. Mossie arrived at Biblical Families to deal with the Isaiah prophecy issue. He created that discussion and one concerning healing theory, which I entered. After some discussion it became apparent that legitimately understood healing, and had been part of it in the past. It was interesting as before that I didn't have holy healing on my mind for lack of people with the ability around, it seemed like an opportunity that opened and I took it and asked him for a consultation. He came back with a list of actions that lined up with reason and scripture, so I got too them one by one. I got stumped at finding someone to do an anointing, and tarried on that for a while, but I was told that even from the start if I was on the right track the pain would be gone. It was, and anyone who knows anything about what I had will say how incredible and helpful that was.
In the end it was my good Pastor that did the anointing, he is a baptist pastor, but he reads the bible as it lays and said even from seminary (which was ceasationalist) that if anyone asked to do the things scripture outlined he would. He did, I am better. I lost a lot of muscle and am still not swimming 2K like I used too, but I'm gradually rebuilding strength, and just being able to do that is a releif.
Now, thats not quite the end of it. More than a few observations need to be made, and I'm going to make a few here. First, God does everything as per his plan, he doesn't need us, if we did not praise him the rocks would sing right? What we do for him is his gift to us, like we where little kids he lets us help out for our sakes, and gives us credit for things he did the majority of. Thats a pretty basic description of what God working through us and gifts of God are about.
I want to tie that in to peoples attitude to spiritual gifts now. Perhaps not many people see it, but in the last decades people don't want to be associated with spiritual gifts. The first root of this is the snakeoil people that fake them, people with real gifts don't want to be confused or associated with liars in any way. The second, deeper root is that gifts today are idealized. Its only said out loud among ceasationalists, but its in the back of all our minds that the real gift of healing should be able to heal anyone, the real prophet should know basically everything, the real thing is 100% every time like a professional athlete. But wait, even pro's don't hit 100% on free throws.
The gifts are about being part of what God's doing. They come in much more powerful and wonderful forms than what my pastor or Mr. Mossie did in this example, but that doesn't negate what they where part of. My faithfulnes was integral to to Gods work in this case, that much is given. But Raymond Mossie's knowledge of healing is not the natural sort of understanding, weather he likes it or not its part of the gift of healing, he can say its on a low level or small, but it is what it is. There is no way to escape that he said do this and you will be healed and it happened just as he said. My pastors faithfull action and annointing was vitally nessisary to the procces just as scripture says, and it was a step of faith on his part to belive God and scripture over his training and his coleages (who are mostly ceasationalist). He annointed someone, they where healed, the fact is there. Both of these people would not like to be told they have the gift of healing, both would deny it, but one said do this and it happened, the other annointed and healed. We all know its about God, but God chose them to do it.
