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how can 2 simply get married according to the Bible and LORD

Justin32

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I would like to know how does a Christian get married in away that is acceptable to the LORD?
I am not concerned about the the traditional way like having a big wedding and a pastor and best men and brides mades,etc.
If this is the way GOD wants it, then that is fine, but what really should be happening in the eyes of the LORD for a man and woman to be married??

some people have claimed to marry themselves by speaking the vows/commitments to each other in their own home.
Some have had a friend help them the vows/commitments.

Does anybody now the rock solid truth about what makes 2 people married in GODs eyes?
The Bible say that what GOD has joined together, let no man seperate,
How does GOD join a man and woman together, does anybody know the truth??

I believe I have found my 1st wife and she feels the same way and we are in a journey together to honour the LORD and be together and i want to know how do we get married when the time comes in a pleasing way to the LORD instead of getting cought up in possibly mans way of marriage,etc.

I would be grateful for help someone has.
GOD Bless you all
 
Re: how can 2 simply get married according to the Bible and

What a great question. I am so glad you have asked this.

Take a close look at Isaac and Rebecah in Genesis 24:67. Look at it closely and you'll see that it was through the sexual act that she "became his wife."

Also, read through the Songs of Songs. Look closely at the words "fruit" and "choice fruits." You'll notice that "fruit" (chps 1-2) was the sensual parts of the relationship before the actual marriage, which took place in chapter 3 and 4. After those chapters you will see that the Bible speaks of them enjoying "choice fruits." The before time was the non-married time. The choice fruits time was the married time.

Furthermore, Jesus spoke of the key or the foundational essence to all marriages. The one flesh relationship is the essence or the heart of what makes one married. The other issues are the peripheral elements that are sometimes added but not the heart, which is the one flesh union that comes forth fromthe heart and is shown through the physical act.

Don't get caught up in all of the "legal" terminology that has been laid over the Bible today. In the Bible the idea is "relational" not so much "legal" as we think of it here in the 21st century Western world.

What is a marriage? It is when a man builds a relationship with a woman and he takes her unto himself fully in his heart that is then signified sexually. They are "one flesh" at that point. When he takes her it is the display of his heart taking her. When she submits to him sexually it is a sign of submitting to him as her head. The physical act follows the heart act, which may be stated in an agreement between the two individuals.

The key then becomes one of is the one flesh union orderly or disorderly. For example, in 1 Cor. 6 we see Paul saying that they were taking unto themselves prostitutes. They were becoming one flesh or united to or joined to or married to those who did not honor God. Thus these unions, though real and actually creating a bond (one flesh; marriage of two into one) it posed a severe problem because the prostitute was not going to remain with the bond and thus is was disorderly, or immoral. It was like taking someone to oneself to only immediately turn around and put that family member away. How does that show order, love, and the concept of caring for one's family member? It does not and thus Paul said this union was not beneficial (1 Cor. 6:12).

The one flesh union simply means, to make one a family member. To marry simply means to cleave together. It means to take two and make into one, one flesh, one family unit.

In the Bible there is no ceremony or any license granted by any government official. The government official was either a father over a daughter, a brother, a family member, a spiritual authority/father, or even the woman herself depending on the circumstances. But there is no such thing as a license, official ceremony, or anything of the like. Though not per se wrong, those elements do not make the two into one as does the Lord's work upon the hearts that culminates in the one flesh sexual union.

All of the ceremonial aspects can be done and yet still the two may not be one flesh. You can get a license, go through a ceremony, and still not be one flesh with each other. The heart may still not be bonded and the physical act may still not take place. Thus, according to the laws of logic and the philosophical principle of the least common denominator, or foundationalism or essentialism, whatever term one uses there, the leave and cleave (hearts that desires the bond that culminates in one flesh) is the heart of what makes one married (united to) to another.

When you read the word "marry" in the Bible substitute the word "unite" or "to join" and you will have an easier time getting rid of all of the Western world ideology that has been placed over the Bible. To unite means to cleave to another. To cleave to another means to join, to become one. Where and When does that happen? It happens in the heart that then is shown through the physical sexual act where the covenant is made or confirmed between the two. Granted, sometimes the covenant is expressed in words (showing what is in the heart) but in some cases it is implied and agreed upon by the two through their growth in love towards one another that culminates in the full sexual union where the "choice fruits" are exchanged between the two people.

Once this takes place then the man should be leading the lady as his own as she has become one with him. The woman at that point should follow the man as her head (1 Cor. 11; Eph. 5:25 and following).

Dr. Raegean, another resident teaching scholar in this organization, will have a good article on this forthcoming soon. It will go into this more in depth. I'm sure he'll post a word or two here on this as well. I believe you'll find his scholarship, biblical fidelity, and position on this subject to be refreshing and encouraging.

In the meantime, I hope this little bit here is an aid to you in some way or another. More can be said of this in depth but this is the jest or summary of the essence of this concept.

Dr. Allen

PS: Think of this scenario. Seth and Beth while on a voyage in the sea have a bad accident. All of the other members they were with die. They float in their raft to an island that has plenty of fresh water and vegatation. But they have no way to get off until they are rescued. As they begin to work together they develop a common attraction to one another. They like each other and then the hearts of the two grow closer to each other. Three months into their stay on the island they now confess to each other they do love each other. Gradually the sensual aspects of their relationship grows. First they kiss and it progresses a little day by day week by week. Four months into their relationship they are declaring to one another their deep love and it culminates one night into a full sexual union. They do life together and 6 months into their stay on the island they are rescued. They go home together. 1 year into this relationship they have children. 10 years from now they are still cleaving together. At 25 years together they are still cleaving together. Now their children are with children and they are grandparents. Still they cleave to each other and love each other until the day they die.

Would we say they are any less married because there was no ceremony or because there was no license or no official vows exchanged? Or would we say they did exchange their vows by their declaration of love to one another that was verified or created by/through the sexual act and the cleaving of one another? I would say they were truly married before God and were holy in his sight.
 
Re: how can 2 simply get married according to the Bible and

Realizing that the Christian and Catholic churches have adopted numerous pagan and heathen practices I began to research traditional Jewish weddings, since those writing the scriptures were primarily Jewish, and quite frankly the apostle Paul states:

Romans 2:28 For no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical. But a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter. His praise is not from man but from God.

Therefore I consider myself a Jew. I am also born again of the Spirit who led me to seek out traditional wedding practices during biblical times. It took some doing, but I was able to come by the information I needed from numerous sources and references and assembled the ceremony I wanted to have performed over my wife and I. I cannot state for fact that the following ceremony is indeed an actual ceremony as it was used in Biblical times, but to the best of my ability utilizing the resources available to me I made this document to be as close to that as possible. The first two pages as printed out are for the individual performing the ceremony to follow; the third page is an actual contract as they were used, and apparently to some extent are still used. With betrothal being a biblical practice and engagement a heathen/pagan practice I became betrothed to my wives for a period of time before we had the wedding ceremony, signed the contract, and consummated our covenant. Betrothal is essentially an incomplete marriage. The woman is considered to be the wife of the man, but they are not yet allowed to be together sexually. She is sanctified (set apart) unto her husband. I looked into Joseph and Mary and sure enough they were betrothed yet Mary was referred to as his wife. They did not consummate their marriage until after Jesus was born according to the scriptures.

My proposals were as follows:

“Be thou my wife according to the law of Moses and Israel, and I will work for thee, honor, support, and maintain thee in accordance with the custom of Jewish husbands who work for their wives, honor, support, and maintain them in truth. And I will set aside for thee 100 pieces of silver (equivalent to a day labor's pay for a year), in lieu of thy promise, which belong to thee according to the laws of Moses, and thy food, clothing, and necessaries, and live with thee in conjugal relations according to universal custom.”

and upon her agreement to my proposal we became betrothed, at which time I stated:

'I take upon myself and my heirs after me the responsibility of this marriage contract, of the dowry, so that all this shall be paid from the best part of my property, real and personal, that I now possess or may hereafter acquire. All my property, even the mantle on my shoulders, shall be mortgaged for the security of this contract and of the dowry and of the addition made thereto.'

I provided a nice ring, each one was different, and it goes on the index finger of the right hand. My first wife's ring is yellow gold, and my other wives have white gold, all have diamond of various cuts. I wear a ring with 7 small diamonds and there are two raised parts of yellow gold and the rest is white gold. This is to signify the importance but not superiority of my first wife. There was also a gathering to the liking of the woman I was marrying, one was very expensive, another was with a few family members in her mother's living room, the others were somewhere in between. The ceremony is as follows:

Betrothal in its legal sense ("erusin") is performed (marriage ceremony) in the following manner:

(While under a canopy - a covering of some type - symbolizes the covering protection of the Lord - could be an actual canopy outside somewhere, a large umbrella, or a sheet pinned to the ceiling and wall at an angle for the couple to be under)

The ordinary benediction is said with the person saying the blessing (preferably the father or mother of the bride but it can be anyone) holding their hand above a pair of silver wine cups filled with wine:

"The LORD bless you and keep you;
the LORD make his face to shine upon you and be gracious to you;
the LORD lift up his countenance upon you and give you peace."

Then one of the silver cups is lifted (by the person giving the blessings) and another blessing is said:

"Blessed art Thou, O Lord, our God, King of the universe, who hast sanctified us with Thy commandments and given us commandments concerning forbidden connections, and hast forbidden unto us those who are merely betrothed, and permitted unto us those lawfully married to us through huppah (the canopy) and kiddushin (the betrothal). Blessed are Thou, O Lord, who sanctifies Thy people Israel through huppah and kiddushin"

Then the cup is put down.

As I placed the ring on the index finger of her right hand I say:

"Be thou betrothed unto me with this ring in accordance with the laws of Moses and Israel".

Then the Ketubah (marriage contract shown at the bottom) is read by one of the two witnesses (not family members) that will be signing it.

Then the other cup is lifted (by the person giving the blessings) and the seven blessings are read (pausing a few seconds between each blessing):

Wine: Blessed are You, Lord our God, King of the universe, who creates the fruit of the vine. (short pause)

The Purpose: Blessed are You, Lord our God, King of the universe, who has created all things for His glory. (short pause)

Man: Blessed are You, Lord our God, King of the universe, Creator of man. (short pause)

Woman: Blessed are You, Lord our God, King of the universe, who created man in His image, in the image of His likeness he fashioned his form, and prepared for him from his own self an everlasting edifice. Blessed are You Lord, Creator of man. (short pause)

Jerusalem: May the barren one, Jerusalem, rejoice and be happy at the ingathering of her children to her midst in joy. Blessed are You Lord, who gladdens Zion with her children. (short pause)

Joy: Grant abundant joy to these loving friends, as You bestowed gladness upon Your created being in the Garden of Eden of old. Blessed are You Lord, who gladdens the groom and bride. (short pause)

Completion and Beyond: Blessed are You, Lord our God, King of the universe, who created joy and happiness, groom and bride, gladness, jubilation, cheer and delight, love, friendship, harmony and fellowship. Lord our God, let there speedily be heard in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem the sound of joy and the sound of happiness, the sound of a groom and the sound of a bride, the sound of exultation of grooms from under their wedding canopy, and youths from their joyous banquets, Blessed are You Lord, who gladdens the groom with the bride.

Then we are husband and wife and get to kiss...then we will each take a silver cup of wine and give each other a drink from their cup – I will give you a drink you will give me one. Then we drink from our own cups.

This is the Ketubah (contract) that will be read:

On Tuesday, the (Google "Jewish date converter") 5th day of the month Elul in the year 5770 (August 15th, 2010) since the creation of the world, the era according to which we are accustomed to reckon here in (City you are getting married in) how (Groom's name) son of (Groom's father's full name - alive or not) said to (Wife's name) daughter of (Wife's Father's full name - alive or not) “Be thou my wife according to the law of Moses and Israel, and I will work for thee, honor, support, and maintain thee in accordance with the custom of Jewish husbands who work for their wives, honor, support, and maintain them in truth. And I will set aside for thee 100 pieces of silver (equivalent to a day labor's pay for a year), in lieu of thy promise, which belong to thee according to the laws of Moses, and thy food, clothing, and necessaries, and live with thee in conjugal relations according to universal custom.” And (Wife's name) this woman consented and became his wife. And thus said (Groom's name) the bridegroom, 'I take upon myself and my heirs after me the responsibility of this marriage contract, of the dowry, so that all this shall be paid from the best part of my property, real and personal, that I now possess or may hereafter acquire. All my property, even the mantle on my shoulders, shall be mortgaged for the security of this contract and of the dowry and of the addition made thereto.' (Groom's name) the bridegroom has taken upon himself the responsibility for all the obligations of this etubah, as is customary with other ketubot made for the daughters of Israel in accordance with the institution of our sages—may their memory be for a blessing! It is not to be regarded as an illusory obligation or as a mere form of document. We have followed the legal formality of symbolical delivery kinyan between (Groom's name) son of (Groom's Father's full name), the bridegroom, and (Wife's name) daughter of (Wife's Father's full name), this woman, and have employed an instrument legally fit for the purpose to strengthen all that is stated above, and everything is valid and established.

________________________________________________ Bridegroom.

________________________________________________ Bride

________________________________________________ Witnesses

________________________________________________

There is no copyright or anything like that on this information so feel free to copy it and paste it into Word or some other similar program and customize it with your information to print it out. The silver wine cups and originally signed contract are to be kept by the Wife's mother, an additional copy can be signed by everyone for the groom to keep as well. I don't desire any credit for this information, I will be happy knowing that it brought two believers into a lifetime covenant should you or anyone else choose to use it. May the Lord my God, Yahweh, richly bless anyone using this ceremony and contract; blessing them with peace, health, children, prosperity, and long life, that in all these things His name would be glorified. Amen.
 
Re: how can 2 simply get married according to the Bible and

I thought this might be of help as well concerning the Jewish Wedding ceremony.

From Rabbi Alfred J. Kolatch:

"The origins of the marriage ceremony as we know it today are obscure. An oblique reference to a marriage feast is made in Genesis 29:21-22, when Jacob asks Laban to give him Rachel as a wife, for whom he had paid with seven years of service. Later in the Bible, there are references to brides, bridegrooms, wedding feasts and wedding processions. The Bible does not specify a formal manner in which a marriage is to take place. However, we learn from the Rabbis of the Talmud (Mishnah Kiddushin 1:1) that a marriage could be entered into unceremoniously by mutual agreement. The man gives the woman money or something of value or a signed contract stipulating his agreement to marry her. Or he could enter into marriage through the act of sexual intercourse." [Inside Judaism: The Concepts, Customs, and Celebrations of the Jewish People, p. 582]

The official Jewish wedding ceremony that our good brother Scarecrow mentions is a common Jewish practice that was instituted sometime around the 2nd or 3rd century AD (100's to 200's). Some others say this ceremony of the Jews developed late in Jewish history, several thousand years (165 BC) after the time of the Mosaic Law code. In either case, it was a later development not something used at all times, though it can be used without it per se being wrong. The custom or ceremony would in essence be a symbol of the reality (see Rev. 19:8; 21:2). I sometimes equate the ceremony to that of a flag. The flag is a symbol of the reality or the literal country. Likewise, the ceremony, if used, is the symbol of the literal one flesh union.

In either case, the ceremonies though a custom and not per se wrong, we can see the essence of the union which revolves around the one flesh (Matt. 19:5-6). Some like to have the ceremonies and there is nothing wrong per se with those. Normally though, at least as it sems to me, the ceremony or celebration phase comes after the bride is taken unto the man. For example, Christ is engaged or dedicated unto the church (his payment for us by his death on the cross, 1 Peter 3:18), his espoused bride today, and he will come to take her back with him (the union) at the snatching away (1 Thess. 4:13-18; Matt. 25:1-13) and then there will be a great feast or celebration (the symbol of the union, Rev. 19:8; 21:2).

In summary the order of priority seems to go like this: selection and preparation stage (espousal, dedicated or intentional courtship phase with the goal of marriage), the payment for the bride (which may be in different forms today), and the fetching of the bride for the union, and then a celebration of some sort. Thus the order is simply: preparation, union, celebration. Fairly simple as it so seems.

Dr. Allen
 
Re: how can 2 simply get married according to the Bible and

Just a brief addition, since time here is limited for now. In general, I find much to agree with in the above. There is simply NOWHERE in Scripture where any man of Yah goes to a magistrate, potentate, or civil official to ask ANOTHER master's permission to join in union with a wife.

HOWEVER, they DO acknowledge (as does the Torah) the authority of a father over his daughter! (He can 'renounce' a vow, even after consummation, as is repeatedly made clear.)

The act of union is, correctly the primary act which confirms the Covenant. But the nature of marriage is also a transfer of authority from the father to the husband. (This, too, is important to understand with respect to the nature of adultery, which is a violation of that authority, and the Covenant.)
 
Re: how can 2 simply get married according to the Bible and

It would seem that everything about the matter has been said. Marriage as I have found it in the Bible is consumated in the sexual act (with or without agreement of till death do as part), although as mentioned before one is ordely and glorifying to the Lord and one is not. The father of the female seems to be the only one that is required to give consent as Mark said to transfer the authority from father to husband.

All in all it is so much more simple then we have made it.

I know some one on here has said this before but I think for boys and men the phrase "You broke it you buy it." applies here. :)
 
Re: how can 2 simply get married according to the Bible and

I know some one on here has said this before but I think for boys and men the phrase "You broke it you buy it." applies here. :)

Simple enough. Amen
 
Re: how can 2 simply get married according to the Bible and

DR Allen and I are really good friends with the author of that article. I love and respect my brother and I am looking forward to calling him in the morning. LOL! I have conversations with him every day and he is a blessing to me and I hope I am to him. Love you Bill.
 
how can 2 simply get hitched according to the Bible and LORD

What makes someone married?
1Cor. 6:15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never!
1Cor. 6:16 Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.”


Please follow.

If a prostitute and a man when they are united in sexual relation they become one flesh.

Therefore it must also follow.

When a man and a woman unite in a sexual relationship they are unite as one flesh.

Therefore one must then ask where is one flesh? Gen. 2:24 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.”

The verb united is davq which means to cling, cleave or kepp close.
There does not seem to be much in the way of ceremony.

Would not a simple assent to the relationship be suffient?

As would the old simple military ceremony:
“Leap rogue, and jump whore, And then you are married for evermore.” http://bit.ly/cItd9G
 
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