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Is monogamy the "ideal"?

pebble

pebble

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Okay, monogamists insist that monogamy is the ideal and I've read pro-polyginist views that accepts said statement but contending that poly is nevertheless allowed. But is monogamy really the ideal as indicated in the scriptures? We already know that the first human sin was committed by a monogamist couple (at the time of the commission of the sin) and, if they remained monogamist, then a host of other sins came from the monogamous form of marriage, including jealousy, sibling rivalry, and murder.

So am not really keen on the argument that monogamy is the ideal.

Walking with God, in all forms of marriage, is the ideal.
 
Sin did not come to the world because Adam and Eve were monogamous; in my opinion, we have a failure of leadership there.

No form of marriage id "ideal"; the purpose of God for your life is ideal for you.

It is enough to say that PM is righteous, and might be ideal for some homes.
 
If anything is 'ideal' it would be celibacy, based on Paul's teaching. You can push whatever view you like once you start thinking we should only promote what is 'ideal', as a scriptural argument can be made for celibacy, monogamy or polygyny to be ideal if you wish.
 
Thank you, Pebble. But ...

Is it a useful answer to you? If not, can you suggest improvement?
 
Well, its useless crying over spilled milk. The "ideal" existed long ago, before Eve was duped and Adam willfully disobeyed God. And you're right, sir, there's no way to prove it, we may not even be here at all. After the fall, we have to make do with what we have and what we were given.

I don't think walking around naked (edited) would be ideal for me. There's a lot of accidents waiting to happen to uncovered parts (edited). :D Besides, in the next phase of our lives, we're supposed to wear robes. Why are not we going back to birthday suits?

I'll stick with "Walking with God in all forms of marriages" as the ideal.
 
Pebble,
I personally find your anatomy description very offensive. After all this is a public forum with ladies reading also. Of course, this is IMHO.
 
This is just my personal opinion, but I believe that monogamy is the middle ground. There are always polygynysts, and always celibates, but the bulk of the population will be monogamy and this is proven out from current and historical sources.

But what about the other two sides, is what I always wondered.

Again, this is just my personal beliefs... but the two extremes, celibacy and polygyny, teach lessons to the monogamists.

Polygynysts must be organized in order to survive. If there isn't any organization and everyone just does their own thing, it might work as long as there are few outside forces attempting to harm or disturb the family, but when things get crazy-scary leadership must be involved. After all, men are supposed to be the head of the family, right?

Celibacy is an amazing thing. I've done that for most of the last ten years, and I can tell you that it is very rewarding. To be able to go when you want, stay when you want, and do what you want at any time you want to, is really awesome.

Personally I'm ready for more, though. But I'm going to be very careful to build a family that people can see and be proud of.
 
Gideon_70 said:
Polygynysts must be organized in order to survive. If there isn't any organization and everyone just does their own thing, it might work as long as there are few outside forces attempting to harm or disturb the family, but when things get crazy-scary leadership must be involved. After all, men are supposed to be the head of the family, right?
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I am curious as to what you are trying to communicate here.
Men must be the leaders of their families, that is a given.
We try to provide good council on this site, but people make their own choices. there are no Poly Police.

There is no outside force stronger than the enemy of our souls. He seems to hate poly with a passion and is trying his best to harm or denigrate this part of YHWH's plan for marriage. I am sorry to point out that your story looks like it includes just the kind of devastation that he specializes in. As Samuel pointed out, better understanding/teaching would have helped you avoid some of it.

Other than teaching/training, what "organizing" do you have in mind?
 
Re: Is monogamy the "ideal"?

I believe he's referring to the organization of the family. As in the state of being organized, not an entity. That was how I took it. The family's state of being organized with authority and responsibilities already established for each family member.
 
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