Islam's 20 Step Plan to Undermine America?

[DiscussingTheTopic]

Regarding the list of twenty I do not think all Muslims are planning the plan in the list of 20 in the beginning of this post.

How would the entire Muslim world even all know that list in secret, without much of the Non-Muslim world knowing?

Do Muslim parents in America make every Muslim memorize the list of twenty?

How did that list make it to every Muslim country to get to every Muslim, yet remain hidden to so many non-muslims?

Is such a list in the Quran or the Hadith?

Although some Muslim's might follow that list, I doubt that the majority of Muslim's have even seen such a list.

Furthermore, I believe that most people who call themselves Muslim's are NOT terrorists if they were don't you think they would have been more successful in slaughter of people by now given that (if you believe the source below accessed as of September 17, 2010) there are 1.57 billion Muslim's in the world.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_foll ... _the_world

Perhaps you never said this was the plan of most Muslim's in America.

Anyway how many people are murdered in a day of abortion compared to the relatively small number of people killed in the one time event of September eleven?

If I was a terrorist I think the easiest way to eliminate citizens would be to open up my own Abortion clinic and abort as many citizens as possible, it would be much more efficient much safer and would get government protection and funding with U.S. police officers to protect my evil work. No elaborate plans such as those in September eleven would be necessary.

So who is practically more dangerous abortion supporters or Muslims? :idea:

 

[DiscussingTheTopic]

I am not neccessarily saying that Obama has some already written plan that he will have to execute all the Christians, but more that this is already in his heart, (even if he denies that it is.)

If Christians practice civil disobedience to laws they can not obey as Christians eventually violent force will need to be used against Christians or the government will have to abandon enforcing laws against certain Christian beliefs that are outlawed, since Obama is okay with murdering babies, why not use violent force against Christians?

Paul Hill was executed for practicing his Christian faith because abortion was legalized. When it came down to it someone decided to execute Paul Hill. The person who decided Paul Hill should be executed did not perhaps think one year before the event, that if need be I will murder a Christian to prevent Christians from practicing Christianity. But there was something in that person's nature that decided to execute Paul Hill when he was confronted with Paul Hill's Christianity and Paul Hill's refusal to sin.

Obama in the end has something in his nature (in his heart) that would ultimately lead to execution of authentic Christians if that nature is put to a similar test.

For example if Obama is in such as a situation where he has to choose if a certain Christian similar to Paul Hill (not deserving of execution on earth) lives or a baby Murderer lives (for he can not possibly let both live) he would execute the Christian and spare the guilty baby murderer.

In this way authentic Christianity when it tests the nature of sinful men, exposes them as murderers even though they may have not said they will murder a Christian with their words (in fact they may have said they would never do such a thing) before they meet a real one.

 

[Isabella]

Which form of murder is worse for the individual being murdered

1. To allow someone to live on earth, but lead their path to an eternal lake of burning fire

or

2. To kill someone and accidentally send them to good eternal life.

'Ka-booom'

That is the sound of any credibility I had for you exploding.

I am not neccessarily saying that Obama has some already written plan that he will have to execute all the Christians, but more that this is already in his heart, (even if he denies that it is.)

Wow you can read hearts? You are a truly great sage....is this an inherited gift or did you learn it?

Bels

 

[Anonymous]

I am not neccessarily saying that Obama has some already written plan that he will have to execute all the Christians, but more that this is already in his heart, (even if he denies that it is.)

I don't like Obama, either "BUT" I think accusations like this have no useful purpose, in fact, I think they only serve to discredit us. In this country, the burden of proof lies with the accuser. You've made several allegations about Obama wanting/planning/thinking about executing Christians. Where's the proof ? If you don't have any actual proof, then perhaps you shouldn't be making accusations like this.

Obama is no friend to Christianity but that doesn't mean he's planning or supporting actual executions.
Blessings,
Fairlight

 

[DiscussingTheTopic]

I am not neccessarily saying that Obama has some already written plan that he will have to execute all the Christians, but more that this is already in his heart, (even if he denies that it is.)

I don't like Obama, either "BUT" I think accusations like this have no useful purpose, in fact, I think they only serve to discredit us. In this country, the burden of proof lies with the accuser. You've made several allegations about Obama wanting/planning/thinking about executing Christians. Where's the proof ? If you don't have any actual proof, then perhaps you shouldn't be making accusations like this.

Obama is no friend to Christianity but that doesn't mean he's planning or supporting actual executions.
Blessings,
Fairlight

If you look at his voting record he has already supported legalized execution of countless babies.

He has murdered so many more people successfully than Muslim "terrorists" that it makes the terrorism debate a very small issue compared with the baby murdering situation.

If those who planned nine eleven and other terrorist acts with their words are considered terrorists even if they did not do the work directly, than how much more those who legislate terrorist acts on babies.

 

[Anonymous]

If you look at his voting record he has already supported legalized execution of countless babies.

He has murdered so many more people successfully than Muslim "terrorists" that it makes the terrorism debate a very small issue compared with the baby murdering situation.

If those who planned nine eleven and other terrorist acts with their words are considered terrorists even if they did not do the work directly, than how much more those who legislate terrorist acts on babies.

I thought we were discussing your allegations of Obama wanting/planning to execute Christians ?
I hate abortion and I disagree with Obama's stand on it but this does not support your accusations of Obama wanting to execute Christians.
Blessings,
Fairlight

 

[Dr. K.R. Allen]

DTT let's move past the discussion regarding the president of the United States.

What he believes in his heart is not something anyone can know. Only God knows infallibly what in the heart of a person.

 

[DiscussingTheTopic]

I had some comments/questions earlier that were not about Obama

Does anyone actually think most Muslims are in on those twenty points.

I do not think most Muslim's have a handy list of those twenty points they keep in Arabic that they carry around with them, or put on their fridges (for those who can afford refrigerators (in some countries that may be a luxury).)

I think we should not treat all Muslims with less respect than other people. (I am not saying that anyone on this forum said that we should treat them with less respect.)

Muslim's from other countries are very common at my college. I have mainly talked to Muslim men from other countries and every one who I knew a sufficient amount of time had a different personality, because they were human beings not stereotypes.

I think we should build bridges of friendship with some Muslim's and defend ourselves against other Muslims.

I would say the same about people from a wide variety of religions including those who label themselves as Christians.

By the way I am not saying all religions are 100% true.