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steve said:
I don’t know anything about their politics and what party is any good, but are they going grow any gonads and start standing up to the immigrants?
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Restore is in large part running on Millions Must Go and restoration of the death penalty. One of their largest advocates with a platform Carl Benjamin ie Sargon of Akkad is advocating for lashes being brought back as well.
The party is a little less than four months old and just came in third at a very big deal by election which put that weak that Burnham back into parliament and sent Stama off simmering. The point being that the population is genuinely sick of what is going on and to two tier anti white treatment of the native population in favor of any and all 3rd world <deleted> that just washed up to claim benefits and rape children. With Rupert Lowe having started the restore party and it exploding in growth...there is some degree of hope.
If you have any interest in how it started and their general vibe, get on X and search Rupert Lowe video and it will likely be the first one to pop up. Just a man on his farm making an announcement but it inspired millions.
 
This is a little random, but this is the thread for random thoughts. It didn't seem worthy of it's own thread.

The two opposing terms of "monogamy" and "polygyny" present a false dialectic. Using these terms creates a confrontation in which one of them must be superior, or correct. It is an important part of the foundation of Feminist dialogue.

It is fair to say that there is "unmarried" or "married," but to split "married" into two categories implies "good marriage" and "bad marriage." There is just marriage as Yahweh describes it.
 
MeganC said:
I agree. What truly matters is commitment.

Some men have more than one wife and some of those wives have kids.

But who would call them single mothers? ;)
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Yet we always hear from those in the monogamania camp how they believe that men who have or desire more than one wife, are not committing to their wife!
 
Transformator Reformator said:
Looking for ways to aquire the following gold mine source. Anyone knows English translation.

Polygamia Triumphatrix. By Johann Lyser (using pseudonym Theophilus Aletheus) in 1682.

treatise written by German Lutheran theologian It is a foundational text of early modern polygamist advocacy, arguing that polygamy is not only permissible but a divine requirement.

Core Arguments
  • Biblical Defense: Lyser argued that neither the Old nor New Testament explicitly banned the practice, using passages to suggest God ordained polygamy.
  • Population Growth: He theorized that polygamy was the best solution to repopulate Europe after the devastating losses of the Thirty Years' War.
  • Critique of Monogamy: The author actively criticized the Christian church's historical shift toward strict monogamy, blaming it for societal moral decay.

Publication & Censorship
  • Origins: Although the title page claims it was printed in Lund (Sweden) in 1682, it was actually published in Amsterdam to evade heavy censorship.
  • Backlash: Lyser spent his life traveling across Europe attempting to start a polygamist sect. His book was widely condemned by religious authorities, and a vast majority of the original copies were burned.

Historical Legacy
Today, the work remains an exceptionally rare and important historical artifact representing early radical critiques of traditional European marriage. It is frequently studied by historians of 17th-century political philosophy, theology, and the history of sexuality

Here is sample of material from the book:

“I am not even mentioning that many pagans and Turks, among whom polygamy is widely practiced, might convert to Christianity if polygamy were not prohibited among us. Gilbert Voetius, a highly learned man, testifies that the entire kingdom of Tonkin, together with its king, could have been converted to the Christian faith—if the Jesuits had not, in their discussions, dissuaded those who had already been converted from practicing polygamy. They even chose to persuade the king himself that he had to put away all his wives except one if he wanted to become a Christian. This so provoked the king that he cast out all those apostles (as they called themselves) along with their apostolic—or rather, fantastical—doctrine. For this loss to the church, those enemies—not only of polygamy, but even of marriage itself—will have to answer on Judgment Day.”
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Hear yee, hear yee. One of our own (not me), directed Ai to scan the pages of Latin masterpiece and form 1st English translation. It is about 600 pages of material. (English with Latin is available as well).

I am going to create different thread where we could react to it who wish. There are a lot of relevant nuggets of wisdom regarding patriarchy/polygyny. It is amazing those things were written in 1682. I am attaching the file here and in the new thread with the name "Reacting to Polygamia Triumphatrix By Johann Lyser".
 

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Heavens Declare said:
For a thread that is supposed to be random, we sure do seem to talk a lot about polygyny! Even Random threads can get derailed around here!
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Oh, sorry. I must have forgotten rules in FINE PRINT 300 pages ago. Thank you for keeping us on track on what to post on Random thread. (I hope you can detect sarcasm).

Are you running out of things to be angry about?

I am thinking of Random Comments" as a Bulletin Board.

P.S. I chose to respond the way I did because you chose exclamation symbol at the end of your sentences, so it sounded like you were yelling.
 
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Transformator Reformator said:
Oh, sorry. I must have forgotten rules in FINE PRINT 300 pages ago. Thank you for keeping us on track on what to post on Random thread. (I hope you can detect sarcasm).
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It's hit or miss with me.

Transformator Reformator said:
Are you running out of things to be angry about?
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Never!

Transformator Reformator said:
I am thinking of Random Comments" as a Bulletin Board.

P.S. I chose to respond the way I did because you chose exclamation symbol at the end of your sentences, so it sounded like you were yelling.
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It's all good!!!!!!!!!
 
If you are partial to Textus Receptus translation, and you prefer Formal equivalence / Literal (as I am), I highly recommend Julia E Smith translation for studying. I think her translation is the best.

Here is sample of 1 Samuel 1:6. For example, NASB (Not Textus Receptus) has translated tsarah only one time as rival wife in the passage all other times NASB, translated the word distress (34 times), affliction (1), anguish (2), trouble (22), troubles (11), distresses (1).
Such bias of other translations creates perception of animosity in the family, when in fact it might not be the case.

NLT (Not Tecxtus Receptus) And though he loved Hannah, he would give her only one choice portion because the Lord had given her no children. 6 So Peninnah would taunt Hannah and make fun of her because the Lord had kept her from having children.

Julia E. Smith Translation 1876: And to Hannah he will give one portion more, for he loved Hannah; and Jehovah. shut up her womb.
6 Being grieved, her distress grieved her so that she was moved because Jehovah shut up about her womb

KJV: But unto Hannah he gave a worthy portion; for he loved Hannah: but the Lord had shut up her womb.
6 And her adversary also provoked her sore, for to make her fret, because the Lord had shut up her womb.

YLT: and to Hannah he giveth a certain portion -- double, for he hath loved Hannah, and Jehovah hath shut her womb;
6 and her adversity hath also provoked her greatly, so as to make her tremble, for Jehovah hath shut up her womb.
 
Even I did not know this. Baptists make about 1% of Ukranian population, but there were 450 Baptists churches targeted by Kremlin, not counting other Protestants, 700 churches were targeted. Many American Christians owe Ukranian Christians an apology for their willing stupidity (I am thinking of likes of Marjorie Green and Tucker Carlson, and many more).

David Wood makes great connection between Orthodox Taliban and rise of Ortho-bros rise
 
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