I'm with Gill, if try to grow a beard I look like a man trying to grow a beard. I have to shave into a some crazy geometric tribal pattern to got the bald spots out.
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shaving......or not
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ForestBeekeeper said:
Me too
ForestBeekeeper said:
Ditto. What struck me was that involuntary lose of hair was a mark of slavery. Captors in the Bible often shaved their prey, or otherwise de-nuded them. Same in World War 2, both Britain and Germany shaved their POWs, and both claimed it was to stop the spread of head lice. Same for POW uniforms - strips off the person's pride in themselves, debases them to being a number, removal of individuality, enforced submission.
ForestBeekeeper said:
Yep, most men live in monogamous relationships, in subservience to "her who must be obeyed". Some men do see a beard as a threat. Of all the many times I've been insulted in public for wearing a beard, it has always been by blokes.
ForestBeekeeper said:
I totally concur. Sometimes, shaved men will say that they wished they could grow a beard, so I'd ask why they don't, they'd say that it wasn't a physical problem. You could see looking into their eyes that they are afraid of what others (women/boss) will think of them.
But here is the BEST part of beard wearing: young women, high school girls, absolutely love it!!! Hehehehehe. Want to get similes and winks from young pretty ones on a daily basis? GROW A BEARD!
Run, run as fast as you can, you can't catch me: I'm the ginger beard man!
ForestBeekeeper
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IT is all about subservience.
The way some churches I've attended seem to put it, you'd think there was a scripture that said, "And if the righteous scarcely be shaved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
:lol: (srry... couldn't resist)
:lol: (srry... couldn't resist)
in the For what it is Worth department:
i had a funny thing happen to me when i was on my way to the last retreat. we had stopped at a staples to get some copies made and there was a music store across the parking lot. my wife told me to go buy a drum, so i did.
as i was buying it the kid behind the counter admired my beard and told me that he wished that he could grow a good one. he said that his brother could grow a good one, but it was wasted on him because he was gay and wouldn't grow one for that reason (because he was gay).
gives me another reason to enjoy facial hair.
i had a funny thing happen to me when i was on my way to the last retreat. we had stopped at a staples to get some copies made and there was a music store across the parking lot. my wife told me to go buy a drum, so i did.
as i was buying it the kid behind the counter admired my beard and told me that he wished that he could grow a good one. he said that his brother could grow a good one, but it was wasted on him because he was gay and wouldn't grow one for that reason (because he was gay).
gives me another reason to enjoy facial hair.
steve said:in the For what it is Worth department:
i had a funny thing happen to me when i was on my way to the last retreat. we had stopped at a staples to get some copies made and there was a music store across the parking lot. my wife told me to go buy a drum, so i did.
as i was buying it the kid behind the counter admired my beard and told me that he wished that he could grow a good one. he said that his brother could grow a good one, but it was wasted on him because he was gay and wouldn't grow one for that reason (because he was gay).
gives me another reason to enjoy facial hair.
Wow.....I think there a fair few Bears who would wonder about the secret gay ban on beards.
I am pro-beard actually but only if it suits the face.
CecilW said:Isabella said:... pro-beard actually but only if it suits the face.
Me, too. Wouldn't have liked one on either of my wives ...
(Sorry, Bels. Too good to pass up!)
No no, it is fine....I have been working on mine for 20 years now...but I have an oval face we can wear anything on it!!!
ForestBeekeeper
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Initially I wore a beard because at the time, I looked so young. I was rarely accepted as an adult.
It took years of wearing a beard, for me to 'see' how much men are influenced by society. and how females tend to control men.
My beard today flows to just below my nipples.
It took years of wearing a beard, for me to 'see' how much men are influenced by society. and how females tend to control men.
My beard today flows to just below my nipples.
Oops, think my electric razor just went on the blink.
I heard some Muslims think you need to trim your beard at least every X number of days and that therefor you need to have a beard.
But if you shave every day then you are trimming your beard every day in a sense. So those Muslims do not use sound reasoning.
But we are talking about in the Bible not the Muslim teachings
But if you shave every day then you are trimming your beard every day in a sense. So those Muslims do not use sound reasoning.
But we are talking about in the Bible not the Muslim teachings
“‘Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard.
Leviticus 19:27 NIV 2011
Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him,
1 Corinthians 11:14 NIV 2011
Please reconcile these two verses
Leviticus 19:27 NIV 2011
Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him,
1 Corinthians 11:14 NIV 2011
Please reconcile these two verses
ForestBeekeeper
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DiscussingTheTopic said:
At the time that the Children were leaving Egypt, it was common for Egyptians to trim their beards into narrow columns and curl them. This was part of the effort to stop the Children from copying the Egyptians.
On the other hand one of David's sons had extremely long hair and with it flowing loose while horse-back riding, got tangled in a tree and it killed him. So extremely long hair [as in long enough to wrap around a tree branch] is bad.
2Sa 18:14 Then said Joab, I may not tarry thus with thee. And he took three darts in his hand, and thrust them through the heart of Absalom, while he [was] yet alive in the midst of the oak.
being a bad boy is what caused his death, the long hair just made it possible.
steve, the guy with the ponytail
being a bad boy is what caused his death, the long hair just made it possible.
steve, the guy with the ponytail
DiscussingTheTopic said:
This just might be one of those passages where the NIV missed the full flavor of the writer's intent. The NKJV says "You shall not shave around the sides of your head, nor shall you disfigure the edges of your beard."
You might also look at Leviticus 21:5 and Deuteronomy 14:1. These lead me to believe that your original passage is incomplete without the next verse, and that the prohibition was against following heathen practices involving hair that were supposedly magical and were perhaps performed "for the dead".
As to the "long hair", bear in mind the frame of reference. My understanding is that with the exception of priests whose prescribed hair style was much like a "butch", a man's "short hair" came more or less to his shoulders, while a woman's "long hair" hopefully went well past. Of course, by Jesus day, the Greek and Roman influence may have altered that somewhat.
Having said all that, if it isn't what goes into your mouth that defiles you but what comes out of your mouth, inspired by your heart, as Jesus said, then I doubt that it is what does or does not SURROUND your mouth that makes the determinative difference either!
So if I want to marry woman who are exactly 18 and no older and no younger for legal reasons. Is it better to grow a beard or not.
Probably irrelevant though because I want to marry women who will like me beard or no beard.
Probably irrelevant though because I want to marry women who will like me beard or no beard.
dtt wrote:
I base my lifestyle on the Bible, not the Koran or the Book of Mormon or the false prophecies of people like Harold Camping or the sayings of Confucius.
I don't follow the ceremonial laws found in the OT, but I do follow the moral laws found therein. (To the best of my finite human ability...) So if I grow a beard it's because I want to (or maybe because my razor went on the blink... "...young women, high school girls, absolutely love it!!! Hehehehehe."), not because I am mandated to have one by Mosaic ceremonial law. And certainly not because the Koran might say a beard is required!
BTW, Confucius say, "Man who live in glass house should dress in basement." :lol: :lol:
So what? the Muslims also claim that Jesus was only a prophet. Any real Christian knows that He is God come in the flesh. (See Isaiah 40:3 and Matthew 3:3; Isaiah 44:6 and Revelation 1:8. Actually, read all four chapters to get the context of those verses.)
I base my lifestyle on the Bible, not the Koran or the Book of Mormon or the false prophecies of people like Harold Camping or the sayings of Confucius.
I don't follow the ceremonial laws found in the OT, but I do follow the moral laws found therein. (To the best of my finite human ability...) So if I grow a beard it's because I want to (or maybe because my razor went on the blink...
"...young women, high school girls, absolutely love it!!! Hehehehehe."), not because I am mandated to have one by Mosaic ceremonial law. And certainly not because the Koran might say a beard is required!BTW, Confucius say, "Man who live in glass house should dress in basement." :lol: :lol:
Not due to mandate, but preference for us, nobody ever confuses me for having long hair, nor Sara for short hair. Mine is 1/8" or so, hers is braided near her knees. :lol: I keep a short gotee (sp?) but in the Maine winter often can be found with full beard, though I have a hard time getting it longer than an inch or so. Wife loves it any way I keep it, and I really love her long hair. Just had to resurrect this as it looks like a popular topic from ages past and I might get to have coffee with steve on his way through this week.