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The human population and polygamy

PolyPride

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This is mainly about those who are against polygamy because of males outnumbering females according to global population stats.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the world population is 6,852,472,823 as of 2010. There's also around 50 million more males than females. This means that there would not be enough women for every man if every man wanted a woman to be with. If this is the case, wouldn't it make it worse for males to find women to be with if some of the guys who do find women are taking 2 or more at a time?

Source for the pop. stats:
http://sasweb.ssd.census.gov/idb/worldpopinfo.html click 'submit' button to bring up the stats page.


Responses that I've given to this in the past...

1. There are millions of undocumented women (esp. in 3rd world countries) who are kidnapped and sold off into human/sex trafficking. They're undocumented in population stats because their captors keep them hidden for obvious reasons.

2. Polyandry, one form of polygamy, would open the door for the surplus of men to find women, since they are not limited to just 'single' women, but also women who are already married. Monogamy would not work here at all. I'd even go as far as saying that a combination of polyandry and polygyny and even polygynandry would do better at making it possible for everybody have a mate than monogamy ever could.

3. What about choice and love? I mean what if no woman wants any of the surplus of single men that may be left single if polygamy were allowed. Are we to force women from being with men they love just so we can get them to be with men that they may not want or love or should or the atlernative is to stay single?

4. In countries or civilizations in history where polygamy have been practiced, only a small percentage of the population practiced polygamy. Most of the places where polygamy was allowed still had monogamy as the predominant form of relationship so most would not engage in polygamy.

5. It's unreasonable to expect that there would ever be enough men for women and vice-versa unless you're able to keep the population between the genders equal and desirable, all the time. That of course is not practical.

I hope my responses are okay to show that even if there are more men than women, that doesn't mean that polygamy should not be allowed still. Are there any other responses to this issue? If so, please share!
 
Can I ask where the millions of undocumented women statistic comes from? Surely if they are undocumented, you have no way of knowing how many of them there are?

B
 
Isabella said:
Can I ask where the millions of undocumented women statistic comes from? Surely if they are undocumented, you have no way of knowing how many of them there are?

B

For trafficking, one source is the United Nations. Here's one link: http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?N ... icking&Cr1


A more general article that talks about the population gap between males and females is at this link: http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/09/05/w ... =obnetwork

This article goes into 2 reporters who went to China and learned that there may be about 30 million 'missing' baby girls in China. Worse yet, infanticide may account for some of those missing baby girls since males are preferred in China.


When you mention documentation and how to know the numbers of missing women, those aren't certain but estimates can be taken still. I'm not saying they have absolutely no documentation but to a point their status is not known about if they are missing or kidnapped and cannot be accounted for after some time. I know for instance, there are about 10 million or more illegal immigrants in the US, and for the most part these illegal immigrants are undocumented. It's obvious some of them would hide so they won't be sent back or remain under the radar if they are engaging in illegal activities or being held captive by human traffickers or if they are engage in other illegal activities like drug trafficking, prostitution, etc.
 
I'd even go as far as saying that a combination of polyandry and polygyny and even polygynandry would do better at making it possible for everybody have a mate than monogamy ever could.

Romans 7:2-3 NKJV For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband. (3) So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man.

Polygyny is a Biblically-mandated form of marriage. But polyandry? (Read Romans 7:2-3 again.) Polygynandry? (What's THAT?) Thought this was BiblicalFamilies.org.

I believe that God has a way of balancing the scale if we just obey Him.

China does not obey God - they murder baby girls because of the one-child-per-family policy and everyone wants a son to carry on the family name.

America does not obey Him because (among other things) we murder unborn babies by the millions, and next, we will be murdering the old and other "useless" people.

Christians of America, let's get on our knees and repent on behalf of our nation.
 
Thanks PP, I know about the missing females in China, personally I feel most of them are murdered, they don't seem to be popping up anywhere else, either in the west as prostitutes or anywhere else. Illegal immigrants are more often male so I don't think that would account for it either.

Personally I think those Antis arguments are ridiculous, after all there is no such thing as State Mandated Polygamy which will cause any of these statistics to be invoked. So I think your point number 4 should be all the argument you need.

With all the free choice in the world for both genders, there is not going to be a global epidemic of Polygyny.

thank you for those links :D

B
 
3. What about choice and love? I mean what if no woman wants any of the surplus of single men that may be left single if polygamy were allowed. Are we to force women from being with men they love just so we can get them to be with men that they may not want or love or should or the atlernative is to stay single?
to me, this is the biggie.
if a woman wants to choose a proven partner over what is available in the "single" catagory, she should have that right.

i do feel that we probably have a much higher percentage of "unavailable single men" than most cultures present and past.
 
as far as the undocumented women thing, i see no point in bringing it up in regards to polygyny. that would just take more women out of the need for a husband. altho, like bels said, the missing ones in china are probably dead.

if your point is that it creates the need for polyandry:
1) it makes no sense in a post promoting polygyny
2) as said polydoc, this is a bible based group and any discussion of something that unbiblical is not welcome here.
 
2. Polyandry, one form of polygamy, would open the door for the surplus of men to find women, since they are not limited to just 'single' women, but also women who are already married. Monogamy would not work here at all. I'd even go as far as saying that a combination of polyandry and polygyny and even polygynandry would do better at making it possible for everybody have a mate than monogamy ever could.
what the hey, lets just have the not-so-reverand sun yung moon declare everybody in the world married :!: then every one is covered ;)

marriage actually means something, figure it out
 
PolyPride said:
This is mainly about those who are against polygamy because of males outnumbering females according to global population stats.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the world population is 6,852,472,823 as of 2010. There's also around 50 million more males than females. This means that there would not be enough women for every man if every man wanted a woman to be with. If this is the case, wouldn't it make it worse for males to find women to be with if some of the guys who do find women are taking 2 or more at a time?

But Christians compose less than 50% of the men. So Christians should take as many women as possible and create a shortage for Atheists and Satanists. When the number of Atheists and Satanists is reduced in proportion to all the breeding Christians the world will be a better place.

Do you realize how many people were killed in the name of Atheism in communist countries.
 
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