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The Nature of Man and Woman

BiblicalLiteralist

BiblicalLiteralist

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We know men were divorcing their women for "any reason". Do we have any example stories of this? Also is anyone aware of any scenario in the bible of a man leaving his woman? All I can ever remember is the woman leaving or straying.
 
BiblicalLiteralist said:
We know men were divorcing their women for "any reason". Do we have any example stories of this? Also is anyone aware of any scenario in the bible of a man leaving his woman? All I can ever remember is the woman leaving or straying.
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Because of course it couldn't be the man's fault. :)

Divorce in Biblical times also took the form of a man putting away (shelach) his wife. Just my humble opinion here but this was done when the man could not justify a legal divorce because she had not done anything to warrant a divorce. It was just because he wanted to. Or "any reason".
 
MeganC said:
Because of course it couldn't be the man's fault. :)

Divorce in Biblical times also took the form of a man putting away (shelach) his wife. Just my humble opinion here but this was done when the man could not justify a legal divorce because she had not done anything to warrant a divorce. It was just because he wanted to. Or "any reason".
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This is what I was citing when I mentioned "any reason" but do we have any actual stories of this happening?
 
BiblicalLiteralist said:
This is what I was citing when I mentioned "any reason" but do we have any actual stories of this happening?
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There are instances of it happening and you can deduce that through inference. Because the Bible addresses shelach then obviously it was occurring.
 
BiblicalLiteralist said:
What I am looking for is an actual account, like that in judges with the harlot or hagar.
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I don't recall one. This might be something you could search for in the Apocrypha. Granted, it wouldn't be canon but it might help you find what you're looking for.
 
The woman straying is often given because men under the law of Moses could easily put away a wife for basically any reason. This I believe is why Jesus addressed the subject in Matthew 5:31-32 and again in Mark 10:5-9. That is where I would focus on Divorce understanding right out of the lips of the Savior.
Also, we are shown the woman straying in Scripture as a picture of Israel and how she constantly strayed from her husband and how he was merciful to her and took her back time and time again as a picture of How the Savior loves us and even though we stray and break his heart time and time again He still shows mercy to us and takes us back again to himself.
 
NBTX11 said:
Why would he leave? It's his home and his family. He's not going to send away himself from his home.
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This is what I am getting at, I am trying to establish that it is not in the nature of a man to give up or leave that which he went out of his way to acquire, investing his own resources and time into.

We see it in monogamy culture because he thinks he has to, or because the woman is unruly and he has had enough. I don't see evidence of it being in man's nature, though. Like a king expands his dominion and has no desire to give up his previous territories when gaining more, so it is with a man and his wife.
 
ASyers41 said:
The woman straying is often given because men under the law of Moses could easily put away a wife for basically any reason. This I believe is why Jesus addressed the subject in Matthew 5:31-32 and again in Mark 10:5-9. That is where I would focus on Divorce understanding right out of the lips of the Savior.
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Other than the account from Messiah, we see no examples of this in the Bible, what we do see is multiple cases of a man going and collecting his strayed wife to bring her home. I believe these are examples of how a man should act.

ASyers41 said:
Also, we are shown the woman straying in Scripture as a picture of Israel and how she constantly strayed from her husband and how he was merciful to her and took her back time and time again as a picture of How the Savior loves us and even though we stray and break his heart time and time again He still shows mercy to us and takes us back again to himself.
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This is certainly a lesson to be related to.
 
BiblicalLiteralist said:
We know men were divorcing their women for "any reason". Do we have any example stories of this? Also is anyone aware of any scenario in the bible of a man leaving his woman? All I can ever remember is the woman leaving or straying.
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The Olde Joke is that it was "because she burned the toast."

This was also said to be the focus of the continuing Great Debate during the time of Yahushua between the camps of rabbis Hillel and Gamiel.

(They knew that it was not necessary for her to have committed adultery - no debate there, she'd be stoned - but what constituted "finding tameh," or unclean-ness, in her.)

The word usually means something that is abomination; idolatry would certainly suffice. (Like supporting Kamala, perhaps. :) )
 
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BiblicalLiteralist said:
Also is anyone aware of any scenario in the bible of a man leaving his woman? All I can ever remember is the woman leaving or straying.
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Actually, there is at least one. Moses evidently left Zipporah when he was sent back to Mitzraim/Egypt the first time.

His FiL, Yitro, brought her back.

Likewise, and perhaps similarly, Paul may well have been married, and given her a get when he was sent on a mission he knew well may result in his death. This was traditional; men going to war often gave their wives a 'get' in case they ended up MIA. So she would not be an 'aguna'
 
Mark C said:
Actually, there is at least one. Moses evidently left Zipporah when he was sent back to Mitzraim/Egypt the first time.

His FiL, Yitro, brought her back.
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True, but there is no indication that he was intending anything like a divorce by that action, he was leaving her and the children where they were safe and away from the action in Egypt, and they met him again when he came out of there and the situation was relatively safer again.

Interestingly, we aren't told what his Ethiopian wife was doing through this time at all, I presume she was barren as no children from her are recorded in genealogies, which would mean there was not a need to put her somewhere safe for the sake of any children. She may have been keeping house for him through this whole period while he was separated from Zipporah.
 
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