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Yes, there is a movement to take away women’s right to vote

steve said:
In other words, you don’t have any but are making assumptions.
I’m calling baloney and it’s up to you to prove your claims.
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Since you're too lazy to open a new tab and Google something yourself, I guess I can do it for you. I'll just use Texas as an example, but you can literally do this with any state and the result is going to be the same.

Here's a link to the website as well-

SNAP Food Benefits | Texas Health and Human Services

SNAP food benefits are put on to the Lone Star Card and can be used just like a debit card at any store that accepts SNAP.
www.hhs.texas.gov www.hhs.texas.gov
 

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FeministVampireQueen said:
Since you're too lazy to open a new tab and Google something yourself, I guess I can do it for you. I'll just use Texas as an example, but you can literally do this with any state and the result is going to be the same.

Here's a link to the website as well-

SNAP Food Benefits | Texas Health and Human Services

SNAP food benefits are put on to the Lone Star Card and can be used just like a debit card at any store that accepts SNAP.
www.hhs.texas.gov www.hhs.texas.gov
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I thought that we were discussing whether families with two parents were a bigger drain on the government than single parent families.
 
Mojo said:
People just need to learn how to stop feeding the beast.
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Yes. And I am guilty of that near the end.

There are also times when opposing opinions and beliefs can be debated.

i don't think any of us believe we are going to convince the person we are disagreeing to change their mind. The points being made are more for the benefit of others who may happen to see them. Seeing two sides to any topic can help people form a more informed opinion of their own.

There is a difference between feeding and having debates wind down on their own. This one was naturally winding down because both sides have made their points and counter points and the point of impasse was pretty much reached.
 
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HomesteadWife said:
Yes. And I am guilty of that near the end.

There are also times when opposing opinions and beliefs can be debated.

i don't think any of us believe we are going to convince the person we are disagreeing to change their mind. The points being made are more for the benefit of others who may happen to see them. Seeing two sides to any topic can help people form a more informed opinion of their own.

There is a difference between feeding and having debates wind down on their own. This one was naturally winding down because both sides have made their points and counter points and the point of impasse was pretty much reached.
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Agreed, and it's nice of you to give a genuine answer to someone who was being passive aggressive.
 
HomesteadWife said:
Yes. And I am guilty of that near the end.

There are also times when opposing opinions and beliefs can be debated.

i don't think any of us believe we are going to convince the person we are disagreeing to change their mind. The points being made are more for the benefit of others who may happen to see them. Seeing two sides to any topic can help people form a more informed opinion of their own.

There is a difference between feeding and having debates wind down on their own. This one was naturally winding down because both sides have made their points and counter points and the point of impasse was pretty much reached.
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In general, I don’t disagree with your post here. But, when folks are at an impasse, it’s better to take a break, walk away and reflect rather than continue the animosity.

People can get animated by intentional prodding. It’s a tactic we all fall for and end up often regretting. There’s arguing in good faith, and arguing for sport.
 
@FeministVampireQueen

I would like to see what your opinion on this is. I am not looking for any specific answer.

Do you think women when filing for divorce have an understanding of what their life may look like as a single parent based on statistics? Or do you think more go in with some type of rose colored glasses on?

This is going off statistics we have been discussing. Majority of women working full time despite having some combination of government assistance and or child support.

My parents are divorced. From my own personal experience my mom had rose colored glasses on with regards to how she envisioned life was going to be after the divorce.
She did up ending working part time with child support and no government assistance. But this was not how she thought it was going to play out.
 
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I'm really not sure if they're aware of the statistics or not? I think the majority of women who actually choose to leave their marriages and file for divorce do so believing they'll be better off not married to that person anymore. What exactly "better," entails, I can't really pretend to know. I guess it depends on their individual marriages and what they think the issues inside of it are/were.

For all I know it could be something i'd personally consider minor or trival. Some of my own cousins, aunts, and sister, have been through more men than I could count on two hands, most were bad but even the seemingly "good" men, they would take issue with. It seemed as though they'd sabotage those relationships out of pure boredom or need for drama. I guess in their own eyes they would be better off without some boring man that was too nice but that doesn't necessarily mean the men themselves did anything wrong.

On the other hand, my great grandmother, a couple of my aunts, one of my grandmothers, and even my own mother (though my parents did reconcile), didn't walk away from their marriages themselves, they were left by their husbands. None of them pursued child support, didn't receive alimony, they didn't get any properties/homes, and they ended up raising not only their own children but their grandchildren as single working women.

I actually got curious awhile back and started looking at the stats after everyone was putting out the 70% divorce rate issued by women. However, something else that's also commonly discussed on these forums and on other platforms, also caught my interest into that topic. We're often told that plural marriage can save most marriages because women would no longer divorce for the reason of infidelity. Implying that women often initiate divorces because of men cheating. I assumed based on the narrative being put out, that infidelity would be the highest reason stated for women intiating divorce, but to my surprise infidelity wasn't even on the very top list of reasons. The main reasons were emotional disconnect, bickering and arguing, unfair division of labor, then infidelity, financial instability, and finally abuse.

I'm only saying that because I think both sides (men and women), could benefit from actually listening to one another, as opposed to the motives of others.

I'm not sure if that answered your question or not?
 
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FeministVampireQueen said:
I assumed based on the narrative being put out, that infidelity would be the highest reason stated for women intiating divorce, but to my surprise infidelity wasn't even on the very top list of reasons. The main reasons were emotional disconnect, bickering and arguing, unfair division of labor, then infidelity, financial instability, and finally abuse.
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Some time back I read a report that presented those results. Another interesting point in the report was that women are generally less concerned about a man's body count than men are about a woman's body count. God has wired our brains for the way He designed marriage. Things have gone a ways off track, but the fundamentals are there.
 
Hi folks... That's taken this train down a bit of a siding however, we can now return to the main trunk line regarding women's right to vote. ;)
 
FeministVampireQueen said:
I'm really not sure if they're aware of the statistics or not? I think the majority of women who actually choose to leave their marriages and file for divorce do so believing they'll be better off not married to that person anymore. What exactly "better," entails, I can't really pretend to know. I guess it depends on their individual marriages and what they think the issues inside of it are/were.

For all I know it could be something i'd personally consider minor or trival. Some of my own cousins, aunts, and sister, have been through more men than I could count on two hands, most were bad but even the seemingly "good" men, they would take issue with. It seemed as though they'd sabotage those relationships out of pure boredom or need for drama. I guess in their own eyes they would be better off without some boring man that was too nice but that doesn't necessarily mean the men themselves did anything wrong.

On the other hand, my great grandmother, a couple of my aunts, one of my grandmothers, and even my own mother (though my parents did reconcile), didn't walk away from their marriages themselves, they were left by their husbands. None of them pursued child support, didn't receive alimony, they didn't get any properties/homes, and they ended up raising not only their own children but their grandchildren as single working women.

I actually got curious awhile back and started looking at the stats after everyone was putting out the 70% divorce rate issued by women. However, something else that's also commonly discussed on these forums and on other platforms, also caught my interest into that topic. We're often told that plural marriage can save most marriages because women would no longer divorce for the reason of infidelity. Implying that women often initiate divorces because of men cheating. I assumed based on the narrative being put out, that infidelity would be the highest reason stated for women intiating divorce, but to my surprise infidelity wasn't even on the very top list of reasons. The main reasons were emotional disconnect, bickering and arguing, unfair division of labor, then infidelity, financial instability, and finally abuse.

I'm only saying that because I think both sides (men and women), could benefit from actually listening to one another, as opposed to the motives of others.

I'm not sure if that answered your question or not?
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Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts on this. I'll follow up via dm at some point.
 
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