Exodus 21:4 "If his master gives him a lady...her kids belong to the master"???

[The Revolting Man]

I think I know what you are referring to here but please clarify... grounds for the husband to remarry? or the wife? Or both?

If a husband gives a wife a divorce then she is free to remarry. If it was an unrighteous divorce then he is not.

 

[Slumberfreeze]

The problem I have with the "messianic interpretation" you gave is it kind of gives the impression that we don't need Yeshua or that He didn't need to die for use to belong to The Father. When Yeshua in the Garden of Gethsemane said take this cup of suffering away from me, meaning give me another way, He could have just said I'm taking option B you can have the wife and kids. It creates the illusion of multiple ways to The Father which defeats the purpose of Him becoming a man and tabernacling with us to fulfill prophecy so He could Tabernacle with us as the Father.

I do believe that we don't need Jesus to belong to the Father; in the sense that all things belong to Him whether they obey Him or not. But that's as far as I can take that because I don't believe there was any way for us to be saved from our sins except through Jesus. The only thing I can take out of this is for the Servant is that His choice to be free (or, not go to the cross) was a real choice that He could have made, or else temptation would not be temptation as I can brain it. I think the consequences would have been disastrous, and of course God knew and foreknew that it would happen as planned, because a young Jesus reading this in the Torah (I conjecture) would have shuddered at the thought of being "free" from the Master, let alone leaving His wife and children, when shedding a little blood would give him everything forever.

 

[PeteR]

when shedding a little blood would give him everything forever.

Yeah... life is so fleeting. We have trouble wrapping our finite minds around that fact, but if/when we do, we can be freed from shackles of fear... fear of death, acceptance, unkown, etc... I struggle knowing cognitively of eternity, but still....

Yeshua understood how simple the trade was... a few hours of serious agony for forever as risen Lord and inheritor if all.