Well, if you want to make that argument... assuming KJV, a direct quote of a translation 1600+ years removed from the extant text (which almost certainly isn't the original source), translated by committee, which is also wholly lacking in cultural context. Sure.
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She’s basing the reference in the Greek, not the KJV.
Although I think long term lease is a better description than “ownership”. The man has to return the woman to her true owner and he will get charged for excessive wear and tear!
I actually laughed out loud at that last bit.
I'm not using the KJV. I'm chiding you for using an English translation MORE removed than the KJV. I specifically stated on multiple occasions that I was referring to the original Hebrew (and yes, we most assuredly do have that; look up the Dead Sea Scrolls for starters).
Do you read what you're replying to, or just skim for keywords and answer what you think you heard?
Asking because on multiple occasions you've asked questions that were already answered.
I'm Mormon. We do not see women as property or owned.
I would take discount. I also get salute.
There is good correlation between giving women right to vote and creation of welfare state which has destroyed family and increased taxes.
Yes, me. First, you can spank for fun too. ❤
Secondly, you obviously aren't familiar with power exchange relationship. Or taken-in-hand relationship. Please don't speak evil about my kink. Open-mind is virtue.
Nobody is advising wife beating. All can be done voluntary and with care.
I wonder how more patriarchal relationship types are more wrong. Expectations are opposite.
Correct.
Here is joke from Croatia for you.
Woman starts complaining to her man that she is being treated as property. Him: public or private?
Ba'al was a pagan God. Why would the (Christian) God want a christian wife to call her christian husband after the (pagan) God of fertility and weather? That makes zero sense.
Also keep in mind Hosea. "
“you will call me ‘my husband’; you will no longer call me ‘my master. I will remove the names of the Baals from her lips;"
Now this was God talking about his relationship with Israel. Israel was to call God husband not Master like the old God. We can therefore conclude with elegance that husband does not equal master.
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What verse is that in Hosea?
Hosea 2:16-17
Interesting verse, the word “husband” per the usual is just “man”. There is no word for husband in the Greek or Hebrew.
LDS theology has been watered down a lot in the last, say 50 years. My parents are mormon....I grew up in it. It is not even a shadow now of what it was. All things controversial were abandoned. It is like most other denominations at this point....a social club where everyone makes each other feel good about how much "their church" has right.
I believe there are sincere people in most every church.. ..but there are sincere believers too that don't "go to church" too.
In addition to this video, Maia, I would also recommend you pick up a copy of K. Owen White's "Studies in Hosea." How the term "Ba'al" went from a Hebrew word meaning "Master" to the shorthand for a Babylonian god (Merodach to be specific) is found on pages 41-43. The worshippers of Merodach feared that they would invite his wrath by using his name so they simply called him "the Master (or, in their language, "Ba'al")," eerily similar to the way modern Christians refer to Yahuwah only as "the Lord." But it was a Hebrew word meaning "Master."
And I reiterate, in quite literally every surviving text of the original language, absolutely every word that is translated as "husband" in any English translation, was "Ba'al," meaning "Master," in the original text.