January 20th 2025 - Donald Trump is BACK!

[Maia]

There were invited inside.

No, they were not invited inside.

horewer Pelosi needed some BS to claim emergency to stop certification of election. Which can't be done if there is widespread fraud.

That makes absolutely zero sense. They were certifying Biden's victory that day. Why on earth would Pelosi stop the Biden certification? Come on.

To make things better, Trump asked for National Guard to secure Congress, which was refused and strangely, Pentagon has communication "idsues" when they were needed.

National Guard is under the command of the Governors of the US states, the Governors may loan them to the Pentagon, but they can yank that away. Part of the checks and balance of the USA. The nuclear weapons dropping B2 stealth bombers? Missouri Air National Guard.

Troops under the command of the Pentagon may not be used as paramilitary forces within the US. I would assume that would include federalized National Guard units as well.

There was no insurection. Media has here redefined word meaning.

One could argue that the Boston Tea Party was also not an insurrection.

Proper insurection would include heavily armed people. And it would be obvious some group is trying to take power.

Germany, 1930s, the SA was not heavily armed at the time.

Because Davos prefers you being without car. Best car is too expensive for regular people,

the average cost of a car in the USA is ~$45,000, electric cars are currently higher on average, but closing the GAP

without enough charging (so it's useless) and being controllable by not drivers (electric).

I have driven an electric car from Saskatoon to Denver. Through the electric car wastelands of Saskatchewan, and North - and South Dakota. Was planning needed? Yes. More planning then a gasoline car? Yes. Was it some great intellectual feat? Nah.

Western globalist elite are pure vandals.

Ah yes the elites. It is always some elites that get blamed.

You don't have a CLUE what you are prattling about. Nor what the First Amendment guarantees!

First Amendment does not allow forced entry. There are also some people who believe that 1st Amendment rights are broken because you need to pay to enter a National Park.

It was blatant election fraud, that any idiot with even a high-school freshman level understanding of statistics, and just a bit of knowledge of what happened during the 2020 election theft, could see: Ten-sigma events don't happen by chance.

Shall we play some statistic puzzle? I just cannot come up with something where you would not be able to google the answer.

So you don't understand economics, OR what constitutes a mandate. It doesn't have to be at the barrel of a gun.

I am very confident that I do.

Communists do it other ways, too. From massive subsidies, albeit taken be force from those who pay for them, to tax penalties, to Big Brother Ministry of Truth propaganda.

What about removing the double digit billions that the oils and gas industry gets?
What about removing the government underwriting of the insurance of nuclear powerplants. I think that nuclear power plants should be 100% insured via the privat market (no private insurance company will take on the risk, since you are bankrupt if something goes wrong)
What about removing the subsidy for Hurricane insurance in Florida?

Yet so many people get triggered by the EV subsidies.

Developing bioweaponry via prohibited "gain of function" research into grafting HIV proteins and other pathogens onto spike proteins, and killing tens of MILLIONS is "acceptable." So is Treason. So is perjury, destroying evidence, and gang-raping the Bill of Rights. So is bribery, obviously, if the "Big Guy" gets his cut. Just ask ze BidenFuhrer.

10 Million were killed by COVID vaccines? Now you are approaching Apollo landing was faked level of conspiracy theory.

And I wouldn’t believe one thing China has to say about itself.

I do not have to believe what China says. I have drive the BYD Seal and the Nio ET5. They are shockingly good. Missing some fine tuning but then again so do the Chevy Ultium platform based EVs.

EVs are never going to be dominant in any market because they would have to be mandated,

I disagree. For the manufacturers the only issue is the cost of the batteries - and they claim they can solve that in 4-8 years - which is something that needs solving, he rest of the vehicle is cheaper and easier to produce and develop then an ICE engine. Hence, why both Ford and GM have gone on record and stated that regardless of what Trump does, they are continuing on the path to electrification. They know they lost the war if they do not.

From Enthusiast point of view it is often mentioned that electric cars lack the emotional impact of ICE vehicles. I would actually sorta agree, I would point out however that most of the exciting cars are out of reach of the majority of the population.

In terms of engine configurations only certain V12s, V10s, some V8s are worth saving from an acoustical perspective . This is subjective of course, a lot of people rave about the sound of the Porsche Flat 6, I think it is kinda meh. There are certainly some fascinating exotic configurations, such as the W8 (not V8) that VW once put into a Passat, or there somewhat odd VR6.

However 95% of ICE drivers are in the ubiquitous I4, which is actually a terrible engine configuration, they have unusually poor second order balance they would rattle like broken sewing machines had the engine manufactures not thrown counter balance shafts on them, but that is only a bandage. They are not worth saving. Plus exciting cars are mostly naturally aspirated, most modern engines are forced inductions. Furthermore, if in an ICE make it a manual transmission, if you are going to put in a automatic just put me in an electric car.

Whenever I switch over from one of out electric cars to an ICE car, it always seems like a step back in terms of NVH, throttle response etc.

I find electric cars exciting! There are very few modern ICE cars that excite me. This is one of the few:

Gordon Murray T33 Spider. A pure analog car, RWD, manual transmission, naturally aspirated V12 that revs to over 11,000rpm.


But a Chevy ICE SUV, just put me into the electric Chevy.

with means environmentalists would have to be in power and they would never allow the mining needed to electrify even a small nation’s vehicles, let alone the tens of millions of automobiles it would take to change America over.

I would actually be curious to see green libertarian coalition. Environmental policies balanced by a more pragmatic capitalistic approach. Which in Europe might work.

Forge rare earth metals, the sheer volume of copper, silver, zinc and lead necessary would require mining to increase exponentially. It’s just not possible.

I have read that if all ICE passenger cars, become electric cooper demand would go up by 22%. Challenging but not insurmountable. Plus all of the materials you have mentioned are recyclable, and the auto industry is actually quite good at that.


Edited for some QC, I am sure I have missed a few, I have whipped this together after midnight.

 

[FollowingHim]

One thing people don't seem to factor in is that electric cars just don't last as long as petrol / diesel ones. All my cars are over 25 years old, one is over 100. Electric vehicles (by which I mean modern complex ones with electronics and lithium batteries) simply don't last that long. They might do 10 years, maybe 15 with greatly diminished performance, but that's it. There will never be lots of old electric cars on the road, just as there are not lots of 25-year-old cellphones or laptop computers in common use.

This means that if you switch to electric cars, you have to manufacture a lot more cars, as they have to be replaced more frequently. And @Maia, don't respond that wealthy people replace their car every 3 years anyway, that's irrelevant. I mean at a whole fleet level. The average car in the world is owned by a relatively wealthy person for 3-5 years, then is sold as a premium second-hand car for half its purchase price, then sold a couple more times when its 10-20 years old, and only gets retired from use if it gets written off in a crash or has a catastrophic mechanical fault. Until that happens, someone is driving it - it is used by the population as a whole for maybe 20 years on average.

If you halve the lifespan of the average car, simple maths shows that you will either double the number of new cars that need to be manufactured to ensure that everyone who currently uses a car can have one, or simply make cars unavailable to the poorer half of society. In reality both will happen to a degree (more cars will be manufactured, and fewer people will have cars).

Favouring electric vehicles over ICE is the most anti-poor policy you could imagine. The founders of the left-wing political parties, the whole labour movement throughout the west, would be turning in their graves that the heirs of the parties they created are now championing a policy like this that is so harsh on the very people they were trying to help (I'm not saying their policies work, I'm talking about where their heart was at).

You don't see this side of the problem @Maia, as you're in a bubble. The rich just don't see it as they don't live in that part of society.

 

[The Revolting Man]

No, they were not invited inside.



That makes absolutely zero sense. They were certifying Biden's victory that day. Why on earth would Pelosi stop the Biden certification? Come on.


National Guard is under the command of the Governors of the US states, the Governors may loan them to the Pentagon, but they can yank that away. Part of the checks and balance of the USA. The nuclear weapons dropping B2 stealth bombers? Missouri Air National Guard.

Troops under the command of the Pentagon may not be used as paramilitary forces within the US. I would assume that would include federalized National Guard units as well.



One could argue that the Boston Tea Party was also not an insurrection.



Germany, 1930s, the SA was not heavily armed at the time.


the average cost of a car in the USA is ~$45,000, electric cars are currently higher on average, but closing the GAP




I have driven an electric car from Saskatoon to Denver. Through the electric car wastelands of Saskatchewan, and North - and South Dakota. Was planning needed? Yes. More planning then a gasoline car? Yes. Was it some great intellectual feat? Nah.



Ah yes the elites. It is always some elites that get blamed.


First Amendment does not allow forced entry. There are also some people who believe that 1st Amendment rights are broken because you need to pay to enter a National Park.

Shall we play some statistic puzzle? I just cannot come up with something where you would not be able to google the answer.

I am very confident that I do.


What about removing the double digit billions that the oils and gas industry gets?
What about removing the government underwriting of the insurance of nuclear powerplants. I think that nuclear power plants should be 100% insured via the privat market (no private insurance company will take on the risk, since you are bankrupt if something goes wrong)
What about removing the subsidy for Hurricane insurance in Florida?

Yet so many people get triggered by the EV subsidies.


10 Million were killed by COVID vaccines? Now you are approaching Apollo landing was faked level of conspiracy theory.



I do not have to believe what China says. I have drive the BYD Seal and the Nio ET5. They are shockingly good. Missing some fine tuning but then again so do the Chevy Ultium platform based EVs.



I disagree. For the manufacturers the only issue is the cost of the batteries - and they claim they can solve that in 4-8 years - which is something that needs solving, he rest of the vehicle is cheaper and easier to produce and develop then an ICE engine. Hence, why both Ford and GM have gone on record and stated that regardless of what Trump does, they are continuing on the path to electrification. They know they lost the war if they do not.

From Enthusiast point of view it is often mentioned that electric cars lack the emotional impact of ICE vehicles. I would actually sorta agree, I would point out however that most of the exciting cars are out of reach of the majority of the population.

In terms of engine configurations only certain V12s, V10s, some V8s are worth saving from an acoustical perspective . This is subjective of course, a lot of people rave about the sound of the Porsche Flat 6, I think it is kinda meh. There are certainly some fascinating exotic configurations, such as the W8 (not V8) that VW once put into a Passat, or there somewhat odd VR6.

However 95% of ICE drivers are in the ubiquitous I4, which is actually a terrible engine configuration, they have unusually poor second order balance they would rattle like broken sewing machines had the engine manufactures not thrown counter balance shafts on them, but that is only a bandage. They are not worth saving. Plus exciting cars are mostly naturally aspirated, most modern engines are forced inductions. Furthermore, if in an ICE make it a manual transmission, if you are going to put in a automatic just put me in an electric car.

Whenever I switch over from one of out electric cars to an ICE car, it always seems like a step back in terms of NVH, throttle response etc.

I find electric cars exciting! There are very few modern ICE cars that excite me. This is one of the few:

Gordon Murray T33 Spider. A pure analog car, RWD, manual transmission, naturally aspirated V12 that revs to over 11,000rpm.


But a Chevy ICE SUV, just put me into the electric Chevy.








I would actually be curious to see green libertarian coalition. Environmental policies balanced by a more pragmatic capitalistic approach. Which in Europe might work.



I have read that if all ICE passenger cars, become electric cooper demand would go up by 22%. Challenging but not insurmountable. Plus all of the materials you have mentioned are recyclable, and the auto industry is actually quite good at that.


Edited for some QC, I am sure I have missed a few, I have whipped this together after midnight.

So EVs should naturally taken over the market? They’re demonstrably better and they don’t need subsidies or mandates? We can let the market dictate?

Because @FollowingHim isbright, my one vehicle is over 20 years old and I paid less for my house than it would cost me to buy a new electric vehicle.

On top of that, my job requires me to drive around 200-300 miles four days a week in a vehicle capable of carrying ladders, tools and materials, hundreds of pounds of all three. There’s not an EV made the can do that.