Thanks again all for your wisdom and Biblical version references. I swear I don't know why I'm giving contributions to the church. I should be sending you guys and gals the money instead. I'm getting more Biblical teaching here than anywhere else. 
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Matthew 17:21 NIV
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lutherangirl said:Thanks again all for your wisdom and Biblical version references. I swear I don't know why I'm giving contributions to the church. I should be sending you guys and gals the money instead. I'm getting more Biblical teaching here than anywhere else.
Just make the check out to "Todd". That's with 2 d's. lol,jk
Seriously though, this is a great opportunity to let everyone know that donations and contributions are greatly appreciated. Like most ministries we operate on the giving of others. No one here at Biblical Families receives any payment or compensation. All donations and contributions go directly to the mission of Biblical Families.
Duke,
Does BF take even small donations of $10 and $20? Then to ruffle Mark C's feathers, I'll ask do I get a tax write off for the donation like the Lutheran Church gives me? :lol:
Blessings,
Michelle
Does BF take even small donations of $10 and $20? Then to ruffle Mark C's feathers, I'll ask do I get a tax write off for the donation like the Lutheran Church gives me? :lol:
Blessings,
Michelle
I'll try to ignore that last, Michelle...
(I could put my standard Savior-line in and say, "they have their reward". :lol: )
But, since I've been out in the boonies for a few days, and thus out of touch - I will weigh in on the Bibles (Cecil already talked about the Geneva; there's another thread here about it in detail; a friend of mine was involved in publication of the facsimile 1599 edition a few years back and wrote an interesting "Forward" on the history).
I have a whole collection of them at this point, and also like The Scriptures as well. It's a good effort, avoids some of the well-known NIV (etc) problems, and is a good reference. I still like the KJV because people "recognize" the quotations, and I frequently note that it's available almost anywhere on-line. That means I can find what I'm looking for quickly with most any search engine. (When I read from it, I just mentally re-insert His Name in place of the "LORD" and similar deletions. )
The NKJV is a good readable version, widely available as well. I found a new study Bible that I really like which calls itself "ER-KJV", for "enhanced readability". They took out the "thees" and "thous", changed "causeth" to "causes", and so on, and in general just made a "better" NKJV for those who remember the original "poetry" of the KJV.
There are lots of good alternatives to the NIV, in other words.
Blessings,
Mark
(I could put my standard Savior-line in and say, "they have their reward". :lol: )
But, since I've been out in the boonies for a few days, and thus out of touch - I will weigh in on the Bibles (Cecil already talked about the Geneva; there's another thread here about it in detail; a friend of mine was involved in publication of the facsimile 1599 edition a few years back and wrote an interesting "Forward" on the history).
I have a whole collection of them at this point, and also like The Scriptures as well. It's a good effort, avoids some of the well-known NIV (etc) problems, and is a good reference. I still like the KJV because people "recognize" the quotations, and I frequently note that it's available almost anywhere on-line. That means I can find what I'm looking for quickly with most any search engine. (When I read from it, I just mentally re-insert His Name in place of the "LORD" and similar deletions.
)The NKJV is a good readable version, widely available as well. I found a new study Bible that I really like which calls itself "ER-KJV", for "enhanced readability". They took out the "thees" and "thous", changed "causeth" to "causes", and so on, and in general just made a "better" NKJV for those who remember the original "poetry" of the KJV.
There are lots of good alternatives to the NIV, in other words.
Blessings,
Mark
Mark C said:I'll try to ignore that last, Michelle...
(I could put my standard Savior-line in and say, "they have their reward". :lol: )
The NKJV is a good readable version, widely available as well. I found a new study Bible that I really like which calls itself "ER-KJV", for "enhanced readability". They took out the "thees" and "thous", changed "causeth" to "causes", and so on, and in general just made a "better" NKJV for those who remember the original "poetry" of the KJV.
There are lots of good alternatives to the NIV, in other words.
Blessings,
Mark
Mark,
I'm glad that you took my comment lighthearted, because that was the intent.
The "ER-KJV" sounds good, because I do like the "poetry" of the KJV too. So if this version takes out those difficult "thees" and "thous", it sounds like one to check out, especially since I lost the fight about liking the NIV.
Michelle
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Well, I'm only a couple years late to the conversation, but I found this after having been researching this very subject.
I noticed that a lot of folks gave some very good advice. No one, however, seemed to have anything along the lines of actual studies or what have you to provide for the benefit of others. That being the case, I wanted to provide some rather informative material.
The first is a very interesting discussion that was held on a forum called BaptistBoard.com. They get pretty in depth, but it is still an excellent read. The actual topic of discussion is Matthew 17:21, so very relevant to this discussion. One quote of interest reads:
A few of the documents linked to in this discussion are HERE and HERE.
The next two both come from an Australian gent named Graham Pockett. (His name would be familiar if you've ever read This Christian Life.) In one, he discusses the reasons he uses the NIV over the King James. I truly enjoy his writing style, because he writes with heart. he is not brash, nor is he overly scholastic, but explains everything in a very down to earth manner. in this article, he makes several very interesting statements, but one in particular I'd like to share:
I quote this part simply because it is another common concern among those who notice such things as LutheranGirl did.
Now, moving back to the actual omissions topic, Mr. Pockett wrote an article specifically on this issue. He makes several very good points, and the full article is well worth the read. However, I'll quote only what is relevant to this discussion:
Finally, a gentleman by the name of Oakley did a video series which specifically answered charges against all other versions except the KJV. While the series is broad, it provides a great deal of excellent information in regards to this entire topic. The first video can be found HERE.
I think I'll end this post now, especially since this thread has been dead for about two years, and I just Dr. Frankenstein'd it. However, I did get permission to do so! :lol:
God bless folks, and I hope, if there was still an interest in this topic, that the information I've provided was worth your time. Take care!
I noticed that a lot of folks gave some very good advice. No one, however, seemed to have anything along the lines of actual studies or what have you to provide for the benefit of others. That being the case, I wanted to provide some rather informative material.
The first is a very interesting discussion that was held on a forum called BaptistBoard.com. They get pretty in depth, but it is still an excellent read. The actual topic of discussion is Matthew 17:21, so very relevant to this discussion. One quote of interest reads:
A few of the documents linked to in this discussion are HERE and HERE.
The next two both come from an Australian gent named Graham Pockett. (His name would be familiar if you've ever read This Christian Life.) In one, he discusses the reasons he uses the NIV over the King James. I truly enjoy his writing style, because he writes with heart. he is not brash, nor is he overly scholastic, but explains everything in a very down to earth manner. in this article, he makes several very interesting statements, but one in particular I'd like to share:
I quote this part simply because it is another common concern among those who notice such things as LutheranGirl did.
Now, moving back to the actual omissions topic, Mr. Pockett wrote an article specifically on this issue. He makes several very good points, and the full article is well worth the read. However, I'll quote only what is relevant to this discussion:
Finally, a gentleman by the name of Oakley did a video series which specifically answered charges against all other versions except the KJV. While the series is broad, it provides a great deal of excellent information in regards to this entire topic. The first video can be found HERE.
I think I'll end this post now, especially since this thread has been dead for about two years, and I just Dr. Frankenstein'd it. However, I did get permission to do so! :lol:
God bless folks, and I hope, if there was still an interest in this topic, that the information I've provided was worth your time. Take care!