I do not understand your responses and having read other posts see an unpleasant pattern.
I don’t know what an anti-Saturday sabbath keeper is but this my ghetto too remember.
I keep the Saturday sabbath assiduously. I just don’t think it’s anything to brag about publicly.
I personally didn't see one iota of bragging in the original post.
And what was the purpose of this thread? This is a marriage ministry. There was no point in bringing this up here. It was just immature.
If you check as a moderator should, this topic post thread is in a section entitled
Deeper discussion (theology and more)For exploring the theology of marriage, and many other deep matters of interest
I’m assuming there’s a back channel mafia organized behind the scenes somewhere trying to see how far they can push the no Torah debate policy,
So why have the powers that be on this platform created a section wherein these discussions may be had ?
Also, please explain how we can fully explore and discuss biblical families and biblical patriarchy WITHOUT torah ?
well here’s the answer: they can push it as far as they can push me.
Why make it personal ? Seriously, why?
This ministry will not be sabotaged by those looking to hi-jack it for their own self aggrandizement. This is not a Torah ministry. It is a marriage ministry.
Deeper discussion (theology and more)For exploring the theology of marriage, and many other deep matters of interest
This is where we are ?!?! Make it make sense!
It has room for both Torah keepers and non-Torah keepers. Torah keepers can even be very prominent. You and Pete are on the board of directors for crying out loud.
I am a relative newbie on here so I can only say what I see from the outside looking in, so why the perpetual disrespect from yourself to others who you are working with in leadership to steer the ministry ?
Surely you can express yourself in a more productive manner in a public platform.
We just can’t use the platform to push non-patriarchal linked theology.
Are you alluding that shabbat is a NON patriarchal issue ?
I shouldn’t even be having this conversation. I should have just deleted the thread.
Seriously !!!
Again, as a newbie on this platform I have no idea as to what has transpired before or behind the scenes, HOWEVER, as leadership in ANY sort of organisation there is an unwritten code of conduct, even in our homes as patriarchs there is a uniform code of conduct to the orderly running of our houses, ie. No arguing in front of the kids etc.
Let me give you an example...
I have had some frictional interactions with Samuel however I do not think he nor I have ever thought of referring to one another with the vitriol you have displayed. Samuel actually contacted me directly regarding something he didn't understand regarding me, do you know the outcome of that conversation?
We still did not see eye to eye on it Lol
HOWEVER I respect his viewpoint and he seemingly respects mine and we left it there.
Does that mean we will not have interactions that may have friction in the future? Absolutely not, HOWEVER, I respect his willingness to contact me directly and the conversation that we had, in that we understand each other a little better, even though we may have different standpoint on different issues.
We ALL come from different backgrounds with different experiences so we all have learning to do and opportunities to practice patience and longsuffering, however we ALL have one thing in common, the blood of YAHushuWaH.
We have a cultural saying;
Tongue and teeth will meet but the two will never part.
We are meant to be part of the same body so the least you could do as a moderator is temper your responses and interactions in a way that at least presents a unity in ministry mission even if there isn't a unity in personality or viewpoint.
Shalom Love and Blessings