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The Issue. The Source. The Problem.

It’s in the design, why would a woman want two leaders?

I think that there is some similarity, comparing to the number of husbands would be similar to asking if children wanted more than one mother.
Although in plural families they do, but there isn’t the desire for them.
*Not to be confused with malcontents wanting "better" men, sometimes called hypergamy, which is a feminine trait that, left unchecked, leads to adultery, sometimes called serial monogamy, which is often erroneously compared to polygyny.

In my experience, two mothers seems to be about as bad and confusing to children as I imagine two husbands would be for a woman. I create clear separation among mine. Maybe the short run of dual mothers was poorly implemented, but I think it is just a bad construct.
 
Is this by God's design? Did God create man with the desire for more than one woman? Is that only for some men? Are some men content with one woman, or are they just suppressing what they really want. Or have they been fooled by society that they must only have one wife?

This is interesting, and I would be interested in fleshing this out a little more.

It seems most women can't understand how a man could want another woman besides her and expect him to be her only man. After all, she's not looking for another husband (unless she's cheating/committing adultery of course).

Why does the woman expect and demand that her husband suppress any desire for another woman. I know, I know, western culture demanded that she have a fairy tale monogamous marriage. But is there more to this.

Did God create men and women differently as far as desire for marriage partners?
Do you know what I call men who claim only one woman is enough? Liers.

They would get at least two if there were no negative consequences.
 
Do you know what I call men who claim only one woman is enough? Liers.

They would get at least two if there were no negative consequences.
Well, there are those sad specimens that find one is too much.
 
When a woman has a child, they don’t often feel that other children would be superfluous.
Good point. God gives some women 1 child, another 2, another 3, and so on. I come from a family of 10 siblings. If God gives some men 1 woman, another 2, another 3, etc., what's the difference? We are told it was God who opened and closed the wombs of Jacob's wives determining the number of children each had. God gave David several wives and told him he could have had more if he had asked. According to Proverbs 19:14, a prudent wife is from the Lord. If God blesses a man with one prudent wife, all thanks and praise to Him. If, on the other hand, a man is blessed with more than one prudent wife should he not also be just as thankful? And who are we to question God's gifts and blessings to any man; be it one wife, 2 wives, or more?
 
I think we are narrowing in on the mechanics of the issue, the process by which the opposition is generated, fabricated, and transmitted. At some point this anemic belief system was injected into culture and a considerable majority were persuaded to embrace it, not only as a norm but as the only moral, ethical, and viable means of marriage.

Psychology is a big factor. Evidently women do not think entirely like men and the converse is equally true. One of the most frequent errors in this regard is the occurrence of projection. A sensibly-minded woman knows full well she doesn't need another husband. If she uses this line of logic to invert it and thereby conclude that her husband has no need for another wife she is likely to become deeply rooted in the erroneous monogamy only doctrine. She is in effect, blind-sighted to the benefits that an additional wife can bring to the table. Because she knows deep down it is good and proper to be loyal to only one spouse, she extends this knowledge by means of inversion and projection to her husband. Her reasoning is that what is good for the goose is good for the gander and consequently becomes a silly goose.

The problem is further exacerbated and reinforced in a spirit of rebellion. By failure to acknowledge her headship in the home she is blind to the fact that she is robbing it of functionality. She expects that her husband should obey her. The process is nearly always entirely unconscious because it is borne of expectation. By means of culture, by means of media, by means of conditioning, and "because pastor x said..." she is completely convinced that she should be the one and only. After all, isn't that what her husband is to her? Shouldn't he regard her precisely the same way?

Lest I might mislead anyone with these words I should like to point to the husbandman also in this regard. I'm not targeting women because that would be unfair. If the husbandman is likewise conditioned to think the same way (as I once was) then the outcome is inevitable: A weak and spurious doctrine that has no root or foundation in Scripture, full of holes, full of rebellion, loaded with pitfalls and shortcomings. It is a recipe for disaster.

I have considered how a young boy grows up in such an environment. He's programmed to believe the Disney model. He is conditioned to fall on his knee and worship the woman he loves, to make offerings and such, and to become her beast of burden. After all, she is the beauty and he is the beast. Conversely, a man knows that he should be his wife's one and only. So the card is played once again, that what is good for the goose is good for the gander: If he wants to be her one and only then he must likewise regard her the same way. She is his husband now. He would do well to submit and to obey. The television said so. The internet says so. The pronoun people even take it further, but that's another story we're being told. All of it in the interests of gender egalitarianism.

In nature and creation these analogies quickly break down. The rooster rules the roost. The gander selects several geese in the domestic scenario. I am inclined to think that some sort of psi-op was played centuries before I was born to bring this artificial construct into play. One only need to do a little digging into history to learn quickly that this was not the norm for all cultures, including Semitic cultures. Rome certainly plays a huge role in the indoctrination of the monogamy only fallacy, but not the early church. Rather, this practice gained popularity under the auspices of Constantine; but I digress. Nonetheless, the information is available for all to learn and perhaps come to the realization that the monogamy only doctrine was deliberately orchestrated and fabricated by powers that should NOT be.
 
Is this by God's design? Did God create man with the desire for more than one woman? Is that only for some men? Are some men content with one woman, or are they just suppressing what they really want. Or have they been fooled by society that they must only have one wife?

This is interesting, and I would be interested in fleshing this out a little more.

It seems most women can't understand how a man could want another woman besides her and expect him to be her only man. After all, she's not looking for another husband (unless she's cheating/committing adultery of course).

Why does the woman expect and demand that her husband suppress any desire for another woman. I know, I know, western culture demanded that she have a fairy tale monogamous marriage. But is there more to this.

Did God create men and women differently as far as desire for marriage partners?
Indeed this is interesting and I'm very happy to learn that I am not alone in this observation. I'm all for an intensive examination of why it should be the case that there is some underlying mindset hardly discussed among men in plural marriages, much less in secularist pretenders to monogamy. And to be fair, I do NOT suggest that monogamy is a bad thing, or that it isn't practised biblically, or any of that. Yet it is abundantly evident that some men are called to marry, and not just only one wife while every man has his perfect gift from GOD. On the other end of the spectrum we also have eunuchs who are content to be eunuchs for the Kingdom of heaven's sake. So it would seem that some are indeed called to marriage even as some are called to celibacy. It would also appear that some are called to marry more than others.

I couldn't agree more that that there is more to this and I think that men would benefit from fleshing out the causes that lead to the monogamy only mind set. I would even go so far as to suggest that it is a pathology that requires remedy. I am no psychologist but there is certainly a need for examining the psychology behind this way of thinking. People kill what they fear and people fear what they don't understand. When I sit down and try to discuss the matter calmly with loved ones I see fear in their eyes. This frequently leads to anger and contempt. Most people are not prepared to discuss the matter rationally. Their insecurity doesn't go unnoticed. They are desperate.

Long ago, I tried to point out the difference between actually being monogamous and living monogamously. I stressed the point that when a man joins to more than one partner (regardless of secularist contract or common law) he cannot keep insisting that he is truly monogamous. No, he is in denial. And I would further venture to state that in maintaining this denial leads to bigger problems down the road. i.e. Adultery, pornography, anger issues, violence, fornication, etc. etc. Men today need to come clean with who and what they are. So what's stopping them? I think fear is a huge factor. Nonetheless if we desire to lay the axe to the root of the problem we need to be bold enough to cast that fear aside and call a thing what it is.

Certainly there is a requirement for leadership in this regard. As men we cannot expect our women to do this for us, that is to say we seriously need to "flesh this out" as NBTX11 has stated. We need to be better prepared to pull our women and children out of the muck and the mire of secularist conditioning. I believe I have touched upon this dynamic in sundry communications, but I feel that I am compelled to say it again: There's an elephant in the room. I gave it a label. I called it the INVERSION PERVERSION. As men we need to be guarded to it and we must properly arm our sons and daughters to be able to identify it when it saunters into our homes.

Again, I would like to thank everyone who contributed to this discussion. I got a whole lot more than I bargained for. Evidently there are brilliant minds in this group, men who have done their homework and have dedicated their hearts to properly rearing families. I feel honoured to be a small part of this. I find it so refreshing to be among brethren who actually THINK and care.

Thank you
 
I think we are narrowing in on the mechanics of the issue, the process by which the opposition is generated, fabricated, and transmitted. At some point this anemic belief system was injected into culture and a considerable majority were persuaded to embrace it, not only as a norm but as the only moral, ethical, and viable means of marriage.

Psychology is a big factor. Evidently women do not think entirely like men and the converse is equally true. One of the most frequent errors in this regard is the occurrence of projection. A sensibly-minded woman knows full well she doesn't need another husband. If she uses this line of logic to invert it and thereby conclude that her husband has no need for another wife she is likely to become deeply rooted in the erroneous monogamy only doctrine. She is in effect, blind-sighted to the benefits that an additional wife can bring to the table. Because she knows deep down it is good and proper to be loyal to only one spouse, she extends this knowledge by means of inversion and projection to her husband. Her reasoning is that what is good for the goose is good for the gander and consequently becomes a silly goose.

The problem is further exacerbated and reinforced in a spirit of rebellion. By failure to acknowledge her headship in the home she is blind to the fact that she is robbing it of functionality. She expects that her husband should obey her. The process is nearly always entirely unconscious because it is borne of expectation. By means of culture, by means of media, by means of conditioning, and "because pastor x said..." she is completely convinced that she should be the one and only. After all, isn't that what her husband is to her? Shouldn't he regard her precisely the same way?

Lest I might mislead anyone with these words I should like to point to the husbandman also in this regard. I'm not targeting women because that would be unfair. If the husbandman is likewise conditioned to think the same way (as I once was) then the outcome is inevitable: A weak and spurious doctrine that has no root or foundation in Scripture, full of holes, full of rebellion, loaded with pitfalls and shortcomings. It is a recipe for disaster.

I have considered how a young boy grows up in such an environment. He's programmed to believe the Disney model. He is conditioned to fall on his knee and worship the woman he loves, to make offerings and such, and to become her beast of burden. After all, she is the beauty and he is the beast. Conversely, a man knows that he should be his wife's one and only. So the card is played once again, that what is good for the goose is good for the gander: If he wants to be her one and only then he must likewise regard her the same way. She is his husband now. He would do well to submit and to obey. The television said so. The internet says so. The pronoun people even take it further, but that's another story we're being told. All of it in the interests of gender egalitarianism.

In nature and creation these analogies quickly break down. The rooster rules the roost. The gander selects several geese in the domestic scenario. I am inclined to think that some sort of psi-op was played centuries before I was born to bring this artificial construct into play. One only need to do a little digging into history to learn quickly that this was not the norm for all cultures, including Semitic cultures. Rome certainly plays a huge role in the indoctrination of the monogamy only fallacy, but not the early church. Rather, this practice gained popularity under the auspices of Constantine; but I digress. Nonetheless, the information is available for all to learn and perhaps come to the realization that the monogamy only doctrine was deliberately orchestrated and fabricated by powers that should NOT be.
Some of the best comments I have seen on this forum. And the paragraph bolded is exactly what my wife struggled with, when we approached and studied this topic. Why do YOU need more than one wife. I don't want more than one husband.

I suspect many wives struggle with these thoughts.
 
The biggest reason for providing headship for an extra woman is because they need it.
 
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