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and Solomon. I think marrying Solomon was like being a single mother.
Very true, although his children didn't turn out so bad. He had enough servants working to keep them in line. I didn't include Solomon though, because in times of war, when there is a severe depletion of men, well, we can look at how many children were born to the Israelis in the desert (Numbers 1 and Numbers 4), and the number of children born to Ibzan and Jair, and conclude that they had quite a few wives as well. When you yourself end up marrying someone, and you have quite a selection of families here to consider, there will be one less of you for these families to consider, seeing as you can only have one husband. In those closed organizations, young men are often expelled, at least until they return with a wife from outside the organization. In times of war however, this is not such a great concern.
 
Very true, although his children didn't turn out so bad. He had enough servants working to keep them in line. I didn't include Solomon though, because in times of war, when there is a severe depletion of men, well, we can look at how many children were born to the Israelis in the desert (Numbers 1 and Numbers 4), and the number of children born to Ibzan and Jair, and conclude that they had quite a few wives as well. When you yourself end up marrying someone, and you have quite a selection of families here to consider, there will be one less of you for these families to consider, seeing as you can only have one husband. In those closed organizations, young men are often expelled, at least until they return with a wife from outside the organization. In times of war however, this is not such a great concern.

I studied this before, and I have forgotten, and could be wrong, but the only child Solomon had that was recorded in scripture, was the one who divided the 12 tribes. It also concerned me that out of all those wives no children were recorded and most of them worshiped Moloch, so it leads me to believe that Solomon didn't have very many children to take care of out of all those wives. Which is a case for too many wives is a bad thing.
 
I studied this before, and I have forgotten, and could be wrong, but the only child Solomon had that was recorded in scripture, was the one who divided the 12 tribes. It also concerned me that out of all those wives no children were recorded and most of them worshiped Moloch, so it leads me to believe that Solomon didn't have very many children to take care of out of all those wives. Which is a case for too many wives is a bad thing.
He had at least 3. I Kings 4 lists Solomon's administrators, and two of them married two of his daughters.
 
1000 wives and three children, sounds reasonable. :)
Yeah, three that we know of. I have never read any more into that than what is written.
 
I studied this before, and I have forgotten, and could be wrong, but the only child Solomon had that was recorded in scripture, was the one who divided the 12 tribes. It also concerned me that out of all those wives no children were recorded and most of them worshiped Moloch, so it leads me to believe that Solomon didn't have very many children to take care of out of all those wives. Which is a case for too many wives is a bad thing.

Damn dude. That is gonna be the worst thing I think about all day.
 
IKR, I have been wondering about that for some time now. I think there is a really serious story here that would be hard for any of us to take.
I wonder if some of the writings of the Sanhedrin or other Rabbinical writings might shed any light on this.
 
I studied this before, and I have forgotten, and could be wrong, but the only child Solomon had that was recorded in scripture, was the one who divided the 12 tribes. It also concerned me that out of all those wives no children were recorded and most of them worshiped Moloch, so it leads me to believe that Solomon didn't have very many children to take care of out of all those wives. Which is a case for too many wives is a bad thing.
The reality is actually far worse. These foreign women served Moloch and Baal. And sacrificed to them. The usual sacrifice was babies. It’s entirely possible that the only children who survived are the ones listed.
 
The reality is actually far worse. These foreign women served Moloch and Baal. And sacrificed to them. The usual sacrifice was babies. It’s entirely possible that the only children who survived are the ones listed.

This is really hard to fathom, if it weren't for the current state of the world and what is likely going to be revealed that's being done to minor children by the elite.

The hard part about this all is that it appears Solomon wasn't the wisest man of all. Makes one wonder, so his wisdom of cutting a child in two may not have been so profound, but more of a logical conclusion based on how he viewed children. Like I said, this is some heavy stuff.
 
The reality is actually far worse. These foreign women served Moloch and Baal. And sacrificed to them. The usual sacrifice was babies. It’s entirely possible that the only children who survived are the ones listed.
I think that this is overreach. We don’t know what percentage of his wives were foreign and the percentage of his non-foreign wives that joined the serving of demons. Out of a thousand, presumably a bunch of them wouldn’t have, or he would have had a satanic mess on his hands that doesn’t seem like it could have been described as: his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the LORD his God.


The reason that he had so many wives was totally political, not because he wanted them. Every podunk city-state wanted to be aligned with him and sent him the local talent show winners as wives to seal the deal. Some of the rulers that sent the girls were important enough to Solomon that he gave the girls full weddings and they were counted in the 700 wives. The gifts of the lesser rulers were still accepted as wives, but not given the pomp and circumstance of a full wedding, they were the concubines.
(Do the math on having one wedding a week for 1000 wives.......nope, let’s just cut it back to a more manageable 700 weddings. Give the guy two weeks off per year for good behavior and it is 14 years of back-to-back marrying. Of course he didn’t marry them all in 14 years, but you still get the picture. And maybe, just maybe, the story of the ten virgins had its roots in his marrying a whole slew of gifts from a large country at the same time. Economical use of time.)
 
It may be overreach, but maybe not. I was surprised when I started searching for Solomon’s children and could only find less than a handful. Maybe theres another explanation, but maybe the answer is so horrible we disregard it out of hand though its staring us in the face.
 
People are only mentioned if they are part of the story. Just because they are not mentioned doesn’t mean that they didn’t exist.
Was even one daughter chronicled? Do we have to assume that no daughters survived?

Is it reasonable to cast these aspersions on the man that Yah chose to build the temple after having rejected David because of the blood in his hands?
 
The hard part about this all is that it appears Solomon wasn't the wisest man of all. Makes one wonder, so his wisdom of cutting a child in two may not have been so profound, but more of a logical conclusion based on how he viewed children.
You are waaay overthinking this.
His advice caused the women to stop arguing and become reasonable. It’s just that simple.

If Yah gave him the choice and he chose wisdom, you are ultimately saying that Yah didn’t do a very good job of giving him wisdom.
 
It may be overreach, but maybe not. I was surprised when I started searching for Solomon’s children and could only find less than a handful. Maybe theres another explanation, but maybe the answer is so horrible we disregard it out of hand though its staring us in the face.
I have no doubt that if Solomon made his children pass through the fire unto Molech, Scripture would not have been silent about that.
 
You are waaay overthinking this.
His advice caused the women to stop arguing and become reasonable. It’s just that simple.

If Yah gave him the choice and he chose wisdom, you are ultimately saying that Yah didn’t do a very good job of giving him wisdom.

Maybe so, but it does make one wonder.
 
People are only mentioned if they are part of the story. Just because they are not mentioned doesn’t mean that they didn’t exist.
Was even one daughter chronicled? Do we have to assume that no daughters survived?

Is it reasonable to cast these aspersions on the man that Yah chose to build the temple after having rejected David because of the blood in his hands?

Just about ever other patriarch mentioned in the bible comes with a list of children's names, even insignificant patriarchs. And if their names are not mentioned at least the qualifier, " and had many sons and daughters". This is not the case with Solomon. The bible only mentions three, and one of them is the direct downfall of the Israelite nation splitting. Something is really wrong here. Just because someone doesn't like the the horror this is suggestion is no different than someone denying polygamy because they don't like what it means and therefore doesn't make it go away.

One of the bibles biggest concerns is genealogy. What happened to the genealogy of Solomon?

Maybe Solomon just wasn't interested in the "be fruitful and multiply" commandment, and so the argument about him having relations with all those wives is a moot point. He just didn't.
 
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Just about ever other patriarch mentioned in the bible comes with a list of children's names, even insignificant patriarchs. And if their names are not mentioned at least the qualifier, " and had many sons and daughters". This is not the case with Solomon. The bible only mentions three, and one of them is the direct downfall of the Israelite nation splitting. Something is really wrong here. Just because someone doesn't like the the horror this is suggestion is no different than someone denying polygamy because they don't like what it means and therefore doesn't make it go away.

One of the bibles biggest concerns is genealogy. What happened to the genealogy of Solomon?

Maybe Solomon just wasn't interested in the "be fruitful and multiply" commandment, and so the argument about him having relations with all those wives is a moot point. He just didn't.
I'm sure that is a more likely explanation. Besides, there is only a very small window in a woman's cycle, where she is able to conceive, and with so many wives to "service", so to speak, it was probably more miss than hit. Besides, building that incredible edifice known as the temple, probably consumed a considerable amount of his time. They say that one of the problems men have who look at pornography, is that they no longer get excited about sex. Now we know that is not completely true about Solomon, as we have a whole book about that topic, but when you look at how many wives Joseph Smith had, you might have expected him to have a lot more children. Then again, there is a distinct possibility that many of Solomon's wives were barren due to age or practices of the religions from which they came.
 
I don't worry about that any more than I would worry about how many angels could fit on the head of a needle.

One of the things I enjoy most about serving my God is the ability to question everything. Many things have been revealed because of it. But, maybe the circumstances of Solomon are not of interest to you, or others, (for now) but it is to me, so I'll keep wondering. Sorry this has sort of derailed your thread.
 
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