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Meat Understanding Trauma and Inner-Healing

GunnarR

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Hi everyone! Been a while since I have been on here and posted something. It has been a busy last several months with school (graduation is 1 month away, Praise YHWH!!!). Anyway, I had a job change over the winter and am now working at an inpatient psychiatric facility. Very interesting (and spiritually dark) area.

Over the past several months I have been doing some research in scripture and reading various material about trauma and inner-healing. Unfortunately, trauma is a by-product of living in a fallen world. However, YHWH did not leave us "high and dry" when we have traumatic events. Trauma is not limited to worst case scenarios. While there are different stages of trauma, it could be as simple as a 4 year old losing a baseball tournament or as severe as the Holocaust, it is still trauma. So how does trauma impact a person through a more biblical perspective? In scripture, it speaks about we are spiritual beings who are a soul.

Genesis 2:7 "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." The word soul in Hebrew is nephesh. This word means "life, creature, person, appetite, mind, living being, desire, emotion, or passion." Basically, the soul is our mind, desire (will), and emotion. Our soul is more than just a soul. It is our core being of who we are and our identity. Our soul can also become broken or fragmented.

Psalm 7:1-2 "O LORD my God, in thee do I put my trust: save me from all them that persecute me, and deliver me, lest he tear my soul like a lion, rending it in pieces, while there is none to deliver. (Emphasis added)

Isaiah 61:1 "The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound." (Emphasis added)

Psalm 34: 18 "The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit."

Psalm 147:3 "He healeth the broken in heart, and bindeth up their wounds."

I want to focus more on Isaiah 61:1 as that is the verse Yeshua quoted in the book of Luke. The Hebrew word for brokenhearted is sabar leb. What is interesting is the word leb is used and not the word nephesh. The word sabar in Hebrew means "to break, rend violently, crush, or to be shattered" and the word leb means "mind, will, soul, heart, inclination, or memory." Isaiah is literally saying that Yeshua came to heal those that have a shattered heart/soul. The author of Psalms talks about how YHWH can heal the shattered soul/heart (Psalm 34:18/147:3) or how the adversary can tear the soul/heart (Psalm 7:1-2).

James 1:5-8 states, "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord. A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
The word double minded in the Greek means "divided in interest, doubting, wavering, or even two-spirited."

Science proves what YHWH instituted in His word. When we experience trauma that is beyond what we are capable of handling or we perceive that we can't handle it, the soul fragments and the person will disassociate from that reality. This fragment contains the trauma, memory, and time when the trauma occurred. This is a protective measure so that we can move forward with life and not remain "stuck" within that present trauma. However, when people go through a similar experience to the trauma, they become triggered and relive that trauma all over again.

For example, I once worked with someone who had been through a fair amount of trauma in their life. As they are explaining the series of traumas that happened, they triggered themselves and began to cry. This cry wasn't just a few tears, but waterfalls with outburst of emotions. When they stopped crying, the person told me that they felt like they were reliving the trauma all over again. Why? Because that fragmented part, which holds the emotion and time the event took place, came up and expressed itself. I later told this person that there was healing that needed to take place in that area. Another prime example is someone who was severely abused growing up and now they cannot handle people shouting or yelling at them because it takes them back to that moment when they were being abused.

Psychology and psychiatry tries to label people who have these numerous fragments as Disassociative Identity Disorder (DID) or Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD). They call the parts of the soul that are fragmented "parts" or "alters" because they are part of the person but are outside of their core being. While these "diagnoses" are usually reserved for severe cases of a fragmented soul, we all have fragments or parts of us. However, most people fail to recognize when someone has fragments or when a fragment is the one that is talking and not the core person.

Speaking to the person and their parts and introducing those parts to Yeshua (Jesus) is very important to begin the healing process. His word is breathing and alive, sharper than any two edged sword piercing bone and marrow, soul and spirit. It takes a lot of time and patience but it can be done. Some of you may ask, "What is so important about this? Why should I be concerned with this?"
Because Deuteronomy 6:4-5 states, "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD. And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." How are we supposed to love YHWH with ALL our heart, soul, and might if we are not whole? If a person is three-fourths whole, can that person give ALL their heart to YHWH? Nope. Hence the reason why we need our Messiah to not only heal us, but also give grace towards us because we fall short of loving Him with our entire being.

I'm still learning so much about this and this is only part (pun intended) of what I've been studying. I'd love to hear anyone's thoughts, questions, or concerns. If we disagree, that's fine. However, I would humbly encourage you to look in Scripture and see there is a greater reason why we need Him and how His word constantly talks about the "renewing of the mind" and "casting down strongholds that sets itself up against the knowledge of God and taking every thought captive and making it obedient to Messiah." We truly are fearfully and wonderfully made. Praise YAH!
 
It kind of reminds me of this song. Not because trama equals sin, but the concept of trying to isolate or wall off what one doesn't want to deal with.



The Secret Place
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My heart is like a house
One day I let the Savior in
There are many rooms
Where we would visit now and then

But then one day He saw that door
I knew the day had come too soon
I said, “Jesus, I’m not ready
For us to visit in that room

‘Cuz that’s a place in my heart
Where even I don’t go
I have some things hidden there
I don’t want no one to know”

But He handed me the key
With tears of love on His face
He said, “I want to make you clean
Let me go in your secret place.”

So I opened up the door
And as the two of us walked in
I was so ashamed
His light revealed my hidden sin

But when I think about that room now
I’m not afraid any more
‘Cuz I know my hidden sin
No longer hides behind that door

That was a place in my heart
Where even I wouldn’t go
I had some things hidden there
I didn’t want no one to know

But He handed me the key
With tears of love on His face
And He made me clean
I let Him in my secret place
Is there a place in your heart
Where even you won’t go

https://boothbrothers.com/song/the-secret-place/

As I recall it continues asking are there some things in there, you don't want no one to know, well He's handing you the key.....

Anyhow. I first heard that maybe 25 years ago....from the family I married into.

Healing and wholeness are what we all need. Thank you for sharing this @GunnarR
 
Demonic oppression and possession was real in Yeshua’s day. The world won’t be free of it for a good while yet.
 
How so? What makes you think that?
I believe that most (not all) of individuals at psychiatric facilities are under some form of demonic oppression and even possession. People don't act out like I've seen just because they are upset. The issue is that when people are not in Messiah, that gives the adversary free reign (as much as Yah will allow). Generational curses, unrepentant sins, and not following the Messiah leads to a very dark combination and recipe.
 
Here's an interesting research article asking the difficult question if it's schizophrenia or possession. I believe schizophrenia to be multifaceted. Not only is there trauma, but people also hear audible voices and see things that others can't see. The things they reportedly see and hear are consistent with some form of demonic activity.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10943-012-9673-y
 
It kind of reminds me of this song. Not because trama equals sin, but the concept of trying to isolate or wall off what one doesn't want to deal with.



The Secret Place
Lyrics
Print-Friendly Lyrics

My heart is like a house
One day I let the Savior in
There are many rooms
Where we would visit now and then

But then one day He saw that door
I knew the day had come too soon
I said, “Jesus, I’m not ready
For us to visit in that room

‘Cuz that’s a place in my heart
Where even I don’t go
I have some things hidden there
I don’t want no one to know”

But He handed me the key
With tears of love on His face
He said, “I want to make you clean
Let me go in your secret place.”

So I opened up the door
And as the two of us walked in
I was so ashamed
His light revealed my hidden sin

But when I think about that room now
I’m not afraid any more
‘Cuz I know my hidden sin
No longer hides behind that door

That was a place in my heart
Where even I wouldn’t go
I had some things hidden there
I didn’t want no one to know

But He handed me the key
With tears of love on His face
And He made me clean
I let Him in my secret place
Is there a place in your heart
Where even you won’t go

https://boothbrothers.com/song/the-secret-place/

As I recall it continues asking are there some things in there, you don't want no one to know, well He's handing you the key.....

Anyhow. I first heard that maybe 25 years ago....from the family I married into.

Healing and wholeness are what we all need. Thank you for sharing this @GunnarR
Thank you for sharing that song. It makes me think how He wants us whole more than we want to be whole. He loves us too much to leave us where we are at.
 
On a slightly different note, what I find most creepy about mental health facilities is the fact that an inmate cannot rationally argue that they should not be there. The inmate may believe they are completely fine, and the doctor might listen compassionately to their pleas that they are sane and shouldn't be in there, but the response will be "I know you think you're well, but you're actually very sick, and you have to stay here". That mightn't be entirely fair - but it's the uncomfortable feeling I get.

I can readily imagine being put in one of those rooms, and told "I know you think you're sane, but you believe in an invisible man in the sky, so you're actually quite unwell and need to stay here until you are better".

At least in prison you can rationally explain that you're innocent and will actually be listened to. You can hire a lawyer, and there are clear procedures in place to determine whether you are in there rightly or wrongly. But if everyone thinks you're insane, nobody will listen to you, so there's no way out.

I feel much more comfortable visiting a prison than a mental hospital.
 
Here's an interesting research article asking the difficult question if it's schizophrenia or possession. I believe schizophrenia to be multifaceted. Not only is there trauma, but people also hear audible voices and see things that others can't see. The things they reportedly see and hear are consistent with some form of demonic activity.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10943-012-9673-y

I've sometimes wondered if perhaps some of these people do see things the rest of us can't see and that's what drives them crazy?

Like I can see dark blue spots on car windows that other people don't see and as a kid I learned not to say anything about it. A few years ago I mentioned it to my eye doctor when I was getting glasses and he said it's normal for some people to see types of polarized light. I don't see the yellow light he told me I should see but I do see the blue on windows and sometimes on things like manhole covers. If I'm wearing decent sunglasses I don't see it.

All that to say I won't immediately call someone crazy for experiencing something I may not experience.

Moses saw a burning bush.
 
On a slightly different note, what I find most creepy about mental health facilities is the fact that an inmate cannot rationally argue that they should not be there. The inmate may believe they are completely fine, and the doctor might listen compassionately to their pleas that they are sane and shouldn't be in there, but the response will be "I know you think you're well, but you're actually very sick, and you have to stay here". That mightn't be entirely fair - but it's the uncomfortable feeling I get.

I can readily imagine being put in one of those rooms, and told "I know you think you're sane, but you believe in an invisible man in the sky, so you're actually quite unwell and need to stay here until you are better".

At least in prison you can rationally explain that you're innocent and will actually be listened to. You can hire a lawyer, and there are clear procedures in place to determine whether you are in there rightly or wrongly. But if everyone thinks you're insane, nobody will listen to you, so there's no way out.

I feel much more comfortable visiting a prison than a mental hospital.

Which is why there is a history of the state using them as a place to dump politically inconvenient individuals. You'll also see celebrities sent there who attempt to go off the chain.
 
I've sometimes wondered if perhaps some of these people do see things the rest of us can't see and that's what drives them crazy?

Like I can see dark blue spots on car windows that other people don't see and as a kid I learned not to say anything about it. A few years ago I mentioned it to my eye doctor when I was getting glasses and he said it's normal for some people to see types of polarized light. I don't see the yellow light he told me I should see but I do see the blue on windows and sometimes on things like manhole covers. If I'm wearing decent sunglasses I don't see it.

All that to say I won't immediately call someone crazy for experiencing something I may not experience.

Moses saw a burning bush.
Welll... gotta a little experience in this area. I'm pretty sure that those who have been immersed in the occult can see auras. Not like many say, but they know who is "sealed" and strong and they don't mess with them. They will choose to deceive and victimize weak or undiscerning individuals. Gunnar, are you familiar with William Schnobelen? The spelling might be off. Also Dr Jerry Mundgadze...
 
I looked up William Schnoebelen and found his Wiki:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/William_Schnoebelen

I laughed at this part:

If you follow the timeline in his own books, he would have to have been a Roman Catholic, a Freemason, a Wiccan, and a Satanist, all at the same time, from 1976 to 1980.

The reason I laughed is because it's perfectly believable that someone would be a Catholic, a Freemason, a Wiccan, and a Satanist all at the same time! And why not when the current pope is Catholic, socialist, and kinda gay all at the same time!
 
@Robhar

I agree that there probably are people who are into the occult and it causes them to see things other people can't see. I'm just open to the idea that these things might be real and they're so confusing to a mortal mind that they cause insanity. Can't doubt that people are crazy when they're obvious crazy but I guess I'm just open to thinking there might be a valid reason why they're crazy.

Just because most people can't see something doesn't mean it's not real.
 
I looked up William Schnoebelen and found his Wiki:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/William_Schnoebelen

I laughed at this part:

If you follow the timeline in his own books, he would have to have been a Roman Catholic, a Freemason, a Wiccan, and a Satanist, all at the same time, from 1976 to 1980.

The reason I laughed is because it's perfectly believable that someone would be a Catholic, a Freemason, a Wiccan, and a Satanist all at the same time! And why not when the current pope is Catholic, socialist, and kinda gay all at the same time!
The Pope's got a longer list, but I won't open that can of worms...
 
@Robhar

I agree that there probably are people who are into the occult and it causes them to see things other people can't see. I'm just open to the idea that these things might be real and they're so confusing to a mortal mind that they cause insanity. Can't doubt that people are crazy when they're obvious crazy but I guess I'm just open to thinking there might be a valid reason why they're crazy.

Just because most people can't see something doesn't mean it's not real.
You don’t have to be in the occult to see things that are part of the spirit realm that we are surrounded by. Some just see more of it than others.
I have no idea what makes it possible, but I do believe that part of it is genetic.
 
I've sometimes wondered if perhaps some of these people do see things the rest of us can't see and that's what drives them crazy?

Like I can see dark blue spots on car windows that other people don't see and as a kid I learned not to say anything about it. A few years ago I mentioned it to my eye doctor when I was getting glasses and he said it's normal for some people to see types of polarized light. I don't see the yellow light he told me I should see but I do see the blue on windows and sometimes on things like manhole covers. If I'm wearing decent sunglasses I don't see it.

All that to say I won't immediately call someone crazy for experiencing something I may not experience.

Moses saw a burning bush.
I do agree that some people can see things that other can't. I've met believers who are "seers" into the spiritual realm. However, almost all of the people I've met that have schizophrenia hear voices that tell them to do things or say things to them that are clearly against the commands of YHWH. I would definitely be interested if I met someone who was "diagnosed" with schizophrenia and was hearing YHWH's voice and was a believer (with evidence of fruit). I say "diagnosed" in quotations because they may truly hear from YHWH but are greatly misunderstood by the world, similar to what @FollowingHim was saying a few posts prior to this one.
 
If you follow the timeline in his own books, he would have to have been a Roman Catholic, a Freemason, a Wiccan, and a Satanist, all at the same time, from 1976 to 1980.

The reason I laughed is because it's perfectly believable that someone would be a Catholic, a Freemason, a Wiccan, and a Satanist all at the same time! And why not when the current pope is Catholic, socialist, and kinda gay all at the same time!
I remember hearing an interview with him years ago, and yes, that all makes sense. The story as I recall it was that he was a Wiccan and a Satanist, but satanists like to do dodgy stuff with consecrated hosts (eucharist wafers), because if transubstantiation is real then the host truly does become the body of Christ - so you can abuse Christ directly by abusing the host. It's hard to get hold of consecrated wafers though. So he became ordained as a Catholic priest by an offshoot of the Catholic church that didn't ask as many questions, and then his satanist group had their own priest who could produce consecrated wafers as needed. So that's Catholic, Wiccan and Satanist all explained. Freemason isn't hard to imagine also.
 
I've been around a few people prior to their deaths. I can only tell you that I've experienced some interesting things that cannot be explained, and they acted in ways and saw/heard things that could not be explained. It sounds crazy for me to relay, and what they reported to me seemed crazy at the time. I believe they were getting an early glimpse of the spirit realm and perhaps I exoerienced the residuals.

Martin Luther King Jr. is said to have essentially resigned himself to being assassinated. If you listen to his last speech, it's quite different than his others. It's like a man reciting his last will and testament. It's quite eery. I dont know his relationship with God, but it's almost like he could see what was going to happen.

I firmly believe that mental illnesses are definitely spiritually oppressive for the believer and possessive for the non believer. It's a world I don't want to visit. I've visited mental hospitals on numerous occasions and they are not top on my list of destinations. I knew someone who spent time there based on a suicide attempt due to sexual abuse trauma. She said that if it had to happen all again, she would make sure to succeed in the suicide than be locked up there.

Thanks for bringing up this topic @GunnarR
 
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