Man_in_the_Middle
Seasoned Member
Gen 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;How does it matter?
Biblical accuracy is MORE than reason enough. You shouldn't need any other reason than that whatsoever. This is exactly the kind of attitude that makes the legitimacy of someone's faith truly questionable. A believer is interested in the truth of God's word and doesn't ask "what's the point?" requiring some immediate worldly application.
1 Timothy 5:8 is very often preached as a fallacious male role as if it applies any less to women. That is sin against God and His Word.
The earthly ramifications? Cultures of men have MASSIVE problems of financial boasting, as well as a problem with men feeling soul-deep disturbed by how much money they make if they are poor or disabled to work.
I've discussed this issue before in other areas and without fail, I get "Christian men" -- absolute fools -- assuming that I must surely be some aspiring welfare queen which is a damning testimony against themselves on its own. As it happens I earn significantly above the median wage for a man and am BLESSED to own a house, and I have the sense to know that I would be out of my mind to talk like the way I hear so many men talking. I even heard a Christian man say "if you don't make it in this country, you aren't working hard enough" -- absolutely damning poor-shaming.
Meanwhile, it's also justification for this flak that women can't help themselves but be affected on every level toward a man based on his income, how much she can love and respect him, which is another stumbling block for a man for tying his value to his income, either boasting in finances or defeated in his soul based on income. All of this is utterly evil. It's reflected in a heretical teaching: no, there is actually no designated male provider role and 1 Timothy 5:8 is actually the verse that refutes it: men and women alike are commanded to provide for family (however able and appropriate), which excludes the concept of a male provider role.
Gen 3:18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
Gen 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
Adam was specifically tasked with having to work to provide food. Eve was his helpmate. She would thusly do as he instructed her. That may have been help in the "sweat of the face" work or it may have been some other thing that he needed doing at the same time as he was doing the "sweat of the face" work.
So, is the task of providing to both men and women? It is to the man but the woman is his helper to use as he best determines his needs are able to be met.
Early on in my business, I had my wife take a job until I was able to get my business flowing. The amount of money my business would make once it was flowing was far greater than either she or I could earn working for someone else. So, it made sense for her to earn money while I worked on getting work into the business.
In truth, we all have to work. It is to the man though to provide. Even if he is directing/managing it. It is on his head for EVERYTHING that happens. Provision is basic. Clearly he has to ensure that it happens. Same goes for protection, child rearing, bible study and spiritual growth.
Ultimately, it is ALL the man's responsibilities... He is the head and even if someone else drops the ball in one area or the other, he is responsible to sort it out.
