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Only The Rich Guys

Maddog

Maddog

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Do only rich guys have multi wives? We read of the patriarchs of old that have had many wives. Is that, or was that the norm? If not true, then can we assume that just about every man had a few ladies?
 
No, we can't assume every man doing polygyny unless most men never died from old age.

But we can't assume only rich men got multiple wives. Remember, Levirate marriage doesn't have both existing wife and property requirement. For regular guy it would be harder, but not impossible.
 
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Let's say one is rich hypothetically...other than being the sort of douche who drives around in flashy and impractical super cars and attending events with lots of other 3/4 retarded people with too many dollars and very little sense...how does one go about letting the resource seeking women who are open to living plyg life know that you have the big stack of cash?

I suppose being famous would fit the bill and help but even then...if you are not interested in signaling to the world that you are a flashy dumbass, you could have loads of money and go unnoticed by this presumed large'ish number of woman who would be willing but who are never going to be searching for information about polygamy in a forum or joining a plural marriage dating site.

Maybe political power would fit the bill...hmmm.
Yeah...there is a problem with that as well. You would have to deal with bureaucratic types and worse still you might have to be polite to maladaptive leftist types on the left. Hard pass.

I may just be stuck with continuing to rely on blind luck and my winning smile
 
You might have to clarify what you mean by "rich." Where I spend the majority of my time "rich" means an income of anything more than 1k US a month to live on. Some of the local guys don't even make that and still manage to entertain more than one woman at a time.
 
Maddog said:
Do only rich guys have multi wives? We read of the patriarchs of old that have had many wives. Is that, or was that the norm? If not true, then can we assume that just about every man had a few ladies?
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Are you speaking of past or present, or both?

And, as @frederick said, please define rich.
 
People, we really are rich.
My dad couldn’t afford a proper socket wrench set. We take so much for granted that our parents did without.
My parents only had one car and we considered ourselves lower middle class. Every family has more than one nowadays.
I’m not big on needing a wife’s second income to support our lifestyle, but one of the wives just having a part time job would cover the costs of having a second wife. It would certainly be easier for her to be in a family than supporting herself. Which would, presumably, be what she would be doing otherwise.
 
Mojo said:
please define rich.
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Exactly! My dad was full time army guard reserves. When he applied for a loan once the bank told him he didn't make enough to live on....and he only claimed the two children that had birth certificates. There were FIVE of us and my sisters did competition gymnastics and dance, we all had 4-h dairy goats, we had horses and mini horses, did all kinds of homemaking projects on 4-h and exhibited our handcrafts and livestock in the county and state fairs. We had a RICH childhood filled with memories and opportunities. I am amazed at what we have now as a family. My husband was always a hard worker and did good work. He raised our boys to know what a finished job is and to understand the value of a happy customer. We don't advertise, but the reputation sells the work as folks praise our crew and recommend us highly. The equipment our crew has been able to earn makes bigger jobs easier. It comes in handy at other times too. The other day a man got off the highway too far with his trailer. There was no pulling it up the bank it had slid down, but our son went the mile homeland came back with the big loadall forklift and got his trailer back up on the road.
The children are being taught by example how to stay on the blessing side of Deut. 28. And are growing up with siblings, cousins, and others close in age.
So I say we are RICH in family, skills, blessings, and opportunities.
I feel very much that YHWH has fought many battles for us, protected us, preserved our children through a serious accident, given them healthy children.
We have livestock so don't travel much, but we have fresh milk, eggs, lamb, etc.

Rich is being thankful for what you have. For some of us that includes a sisterwife and more children in the family. She feels blessed to be here....I feel blessed to have them all in my life!
 
You are all dancing about real issue here.

What @Maddog is implying is that only way to get multiple women is by being rich. In another word, being rich isn't neccesity to wooing one woman, but only way to woo multiple is by being rich.

Let's think a little. How much approaches men use to woo women? Some try social status and being cool, other material benefits, simping 🙄, being creative with humor, doing fun activities. Now, all these approaches do work, all least some of times, otherwise men would stop doing them. Why do sometimes that never works?

So imagine following situation:
1) I and lady A who is falling on my jokes
2) I and lady B who is falling on my jokes

Well, we know that both ladies A and B would be interested in kiddies, wedding... if only one of them is in game.

But there is possibility of situation:
3) I and lady A and lady B

Now if @Maddog is correct, then both lady A and lady B with stop falling on my humor. If woman is dying from laughter from my jokes when I and her were alone, why would she stop dying from laughter if another woman is present? She won't in general.

So if wooing one woman with humor can work when us are two present, wooing two women will work too (assuming both can fall on humor).

Besides, preselection doesn't requires man being rich, but other women being interested in man.

So it's safe to conclude that being rich isn't neccesity for having multiple wives. It does help.
 
most all the Patriarchs had multiple wives. Did they just "buy" them or lean on their impeccable wit? But what about the poor guys never mentioned in scripture- did they poly? what is the assumption?
 
Assumptions? Sure! Even I got assumptions! :-)

I assume that the wealthier a man was, the more excess he could afford and would indulge in.

If you have to struggle to buy hay, you may not even own a horse. If you have fair access to hay, you may have one or two. If you have all the hay you need and then some, you may have a whole stable of horses, each one may serve a different purpose and some with no apparent purpose at all.

Men tend to spend their resources on the things that they like!

That is why I assume, wealthier men tend to have more wives....
 
Maddog said:
most all the Patriarchs had multiple wives. Did they just "buy" them or lean on their impeccable wit? But what about the poor guys never mentioned in scripture- did they poly? what is the assumption?
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For the likes of kings there were political marriages, so they weren't bought but given by another king/ruler to ensure peaceful relations between the nations. Abraham and Jacob were given wives by the existing wife/wives. These men grew to be wealthy through God's providential blessings. However, historically polygyny was common among Jewish men and regarded as normal until Christians came along and stuffed it up for everyone.

I get the impression that most modern women in developed countries are so self-centered and materialistic that it would require a man to have considerable financial resources to attract and sustain even one of them. Kudos to the guys in those places who can make polygyny happen while making only an average income.
 
frederick said:
most modern women in developed countries are so self-centered and materialistic that it would require a man to have considerable financial resources to attract and sustain even one of them.
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Hence, the birth rate decline.
 
Maddog said:
most all the Patriarchs had multiple wives. Did they just "buy" them or lean on their impeccable wit? But what about the poor guys never mentioned in scripture- did they poly? what is the assumption?
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I think monogamy is the default for most men.
 
MemeFan said:
You are all dancing about real issue here.

What @Maddog is implying is that only way to get multiple women is by being rich. In another word, being rich isn't neccesity to wooing one woman, but only way to woo multiple is by being rich.

Let's think a little. How much approaches men use to woo women? Some try social status and being cool, other material benefits, simping 🙄, being creative with humor, doing fun activities. Now, all these approaches do work, all least some of times, otherwise men would stop doing them. Why do sometimes that never works?

So imagine following situation:
1) I and lady A who is falling on my jokes
2) I and lady B who is falling on my jokes

Well, we know that both ladies A and B would be interested in kiddies, wedding... if only one of them is in game.

But there is possibility of situation:
3) I and lady A and lady B

Now if @Maddog is correct, then both lady A and lady B with stop falling on my humor. If woman is dying from laughter from my jokes when I and her were alone, why would she stop dying from laughter if another woman is present? She won't in general.

So if wooing one woman with humor can work when us are two present, wooing two women will work too (assuming both can fall on humor).

Besides, preselection doesn't requires man being rich, but other women being interested in man.

So it's safe to conclude that being rich isn't neccesity for having multiple wives. It does help.
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You entirely missed my point.
My points are generally hidden in a lot of blather and being a smart ass so I will be succinctly once.

Wooing multiple women is easy.
Loving multiple women is easier still.

The hard part is finding women open to the concept in the first place.

Finding them is literally the only impediment.
 
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