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...and I know I am using an anecdote, but we grew up in a broken home. I don't know exactly how we all ended up in marriages that have lasted so long, because even my brother and I are still married to the same woman we first married.
 
Well, the article cites Infidelity and Misconduct, as two of the top ten reasons, and Emotional abuse is described as falling under the umbrella of misconduct. All these Christian ministries have to do, is point to Patriarchy, and claim that that is Emotional abuse, and viola, marriage destroyed. Of course the world's definition of infidelity, doesn't quite match of to the Biblical definition. When I see a woman post online that she divorced her husband because he was unfaithful, I correct her, and point out that if he did not initiate the divorce, from a Biblical perspective, he was not unfaithful!
 
And why do women cheat? A lot of that has to do with the excitement they experience. In other words they were bored. And the same thing can be behind other ostensible reasons.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/m...e-Goodbye-darling-youre-just-too-dull....html

What % divorces in the end trace to boredom? I don't know nor is it important. The point is, don't presume that "ending a marriage is not something that women take lightly". Given the vast damage divorce does to children, there is a lot they treat lightly.

There are lessons to be learned here men can use to preserve their marriage.
 
rockfox said:
And why do women cheat? A lot of that has to do with the excitement they experience. In other words they were bored. And the same thing can be behind other ostensible reasons.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/m...e-Goodbye-darling-youre-just-too-dull....html

What % divorces in the end trace to boredom? I don't know nor is it important. The point is, don't presume that "ending a marriage is not something that women take lightly". Given the vast damage divorce does to children, there is a lot they treat lightly.

There are lessons to be learned here men can use to preserve their marriage.
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Well, I'm just not going to go along with a broad sweeping statement about women, without hard data to back it up. I mean, there are plenty of men out there who are abusive, yet we criticize feminists for making broad sweeping generalizations about men, based on those bad apples out there, and rightfully so. We're all human and have fallen natures, but I know that I wouldn't have a successful marriage, if I was always suspicious of everything my wife does, or intends to do. That would practically drive her into the arms of another man!
 
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Well, I'm just not going to go along with a broad sweeping statement about women, without hard data to back it up. I mean, there are plenty of men out there who are abusive, yet we criticize feminists for making broad sweeping generalizations about men, based on those bad apples out there, and rightfully so. We're all human and have fallen natures, but I know that I wouldn't have a successful marriage, if I was always suspicious of everything my wife does, or intends to do. That would practically drive her into the arms of another man!
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I'm not saying all women cast aside marriage lightly, I'm saying enough of them obviously do that we shouldn't presume, as you did, that women won't cast aside marriage lightly (which is itself a broad sweeping statement about women).
 
Well, I will agree with you about one thing that you said, and that is the fact that the church supports them in their decision, WAY too often. What I am presuming, is that there is some negative influence in the women's ears, that precedes their decision to abandon their husbands, and is causally linked to that decision, and I think the evidence to back up that presumption, is that divorce rates tend to be more frequent, where there is a more accepting attitude towards divorce, in the overall culture and environment where the husband and wife reside. Women do tend to seek for acceptance from their peers. Perhaps there is no greater reason for us to reason with our well-meaning, anti-poly Christian friends, than the fact that if we don't, they very well may subversively creep in and destroy our marriages.
 
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....and then turn around and blame us for the failure that they themselves caused.
 
Judge say “do you believe this marriage is irreversibly broken?”
Hubby say “I surely do not”
Wifey say “I hate him”
Judge say “well alright then, it’s decided, y’all are divorced, and she gets everything including the children, and hubby must still fully financially support her and the children”

#femaleprivilege
#sexism
 
Is that what happened to you?
 
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Is that what happened to you?
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Statistically that’s what happens to the majority of American men being divorced by their wife here in the states. I’m sure any man here that’s gone through a divorce can attest to a very similar scenario. I personally know too many men to count that have experienced this exact outcome of their wife “divorcing” them.
And yes, I’ve experienced the exact same thing with a wife divorcing me years ago.
 
@Daniel DeLuca , you are correct... the Babylonian pagan system is corrupt indeed... they are all profiting off of destroying the family via a goddess worship of sorts... dismantling/ disrespecting God’s patriarchal structure of marriage & the family! The male is automatically the bad guy... cuz balls! (Which contradicts their assertion that biological sex ain’t a real thingy anymore. Lol)

@Maddog ... So many men (myself included) can relate to you big time brother! Sorry you had to endure that hardship... hope the Lord brought you through that fire more refined for His glory!
 
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I shouldn't act surprised. Makes one wonder how people can still believe that Democracy is so great! I have a hunch that a lot of these judges are in the pockets of the divorce lawyers.

https://www.hppr.org/post/attorneys-help-bankroll-campaigns-judges-who-hear-their-cases
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I've heard it said a number of times that divorce attorneys are resistant to fighting hard for men because it could alienate them with the judge and hurt their future cases. All in the system benefit from women winning and more women divorcing.

Daniel DeLuca said:
What I am presuming, is that there is some negative influence in the women's ears, that precedes their decision to abandon their husbands, and is causally linked to that decision, and I think the evidence to back up that presumption, is that divorce rates tend to be more frequent, where there is a more accepting attitude towards divorce, in the overall culture and environment where the husband and wife reside. Women do tend to seek for acceptance from their peers
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They don't need an influence in their ear, they have a carnal nature. But you are correct, stats have shown that women are more likely to commit divorce if a close colleague/friend/relative has. Divorce is literally contagious; which is why church's habit to excuse it is so worrying.
 
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I've heard it said a number of times that divorce attorneys are resistant to fighting hard for men because it could alienate them with the judge and hurt their future cases. All in the system benefit from women winning and more women divorcing.

They don't need an influence in their ear, they have a carnal nature. But you are correct, stats have shown that women are more likely to commit divorce if a close colleague/friend/relative has. Divorce is literally contagious; which is why church's habit to excuse it is so worrying.
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The one thing that is really not taken into consideration is the amount of marketing that divorce lawyer do to women. And once they have convinced women to go with the divorce they push them to get as much monetary compensation they can off it which requires having the children. Besides the underlying reason beyond the legal systems attempt to destroy families, lawyers and judges are really in it for the money. Even the idea of mediation, which is now becoming required in most divorces is not really meant to work, it's just another level of gaining revenue.

Interesting thing I have noticed is that you see more and more divorce attorney's advertising to men. I wonder if the pool of married women that can be manipulated is drying up.
 
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The one thing that is really not taken into consideration is the amount of marketing that divorce lawyer do to women. And once they have convinced women to go with the divorce they push them to get as much monetary compensation they can off it which requires having the children. Besides the underlying reason beyond the legal systems attempt to destroy families, lawyers and judges are really in it for the money. Even the idea of mediation, which is now becoming required in most divorces is not really meant to work, it's just another level of gaining revenue.

Interesting thing I have noticed is that you see more and more divorce attorney's advertising to men. I wonder if the pool of married women that can be manipulated is drying up.
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Cash and prizes.

I've noticed those adverts too. And they charge a pretty penny. There is definitely a market opportunity there. And I think some judges are starting to get more skeptical of women's claims in court. Also, a lot of guys don't fight women the first go round, so there is money to be made in challenging the initial agreement.

Yep, divorce isn't a one time windfall for lawyers, it's a gift that keeps on giving until the kids are all grown.
 
rockfox said:
Many people who voted for Hilary were shocked when Trump won because, "I don't know anyone who voted for him." Just because this isn't true in your family or your circle of associates doesn't mean it's not generally true.

The women in church divorce their men just as much as their worldly counterparts. Sure, there is a 3 or 4 point statistically significant difference in divorce rates. But that's little comfort when rates are as high as they are. There isn't a spiritually significant difference in divorce rates compared to non-Christians. If there was, the divorce rate in the churches would be near 0% like it is for the Amish.



LOL. If that was true 'bored' wouldn't be a common reasons cited for why women divorced their husband (and I know divorced women who've said this too). You're still thinking idealistically; that women are motivated the same way men are.
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Yes, your exactly correct. In court statistics 70% of wives are the initiator in divorce cases. Who knows what the percentage of the remaining 30% resulted in things like my situation where the husband had no other options but to file or hire much was due to the wife committing adultry.

I try to get my ²nd to understand, the way women think it's not same as men. A woman is designed monogamous so she, today, thinks men should be like her, not polygamous. It's just not so, just because some men are able to do it doesn't mean they don't have desires or temptations for other women, they just don't act on it as they can't afford it, don't want the stress or just think it's wrong like I did at one point.
 
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