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Horowitz: The sudden decline in birth rates post-vaccination — and the shocking silence

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This is why you need to try to actually understand what is REAALLLY going on.
This is also why you need to not speak in riddles so often. It's difficult to trust what you're actually referencing and the context. With you, "chickens" could mean birds or it could mean space aliens.
There waa a documentary years ago called farmageddon. It was largely about the attrocities commited by the ef dee aye against farmers and raw milk producers. They say your animals are diseased and other labs won't even test for you.
It's all about control and monopoly for large producers.
I've seen a few similar documentaries 😳
 
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This is also why you need to not speak in riddles so often. It's difficult to trust what you're actually referencing and the context.
Some time ago, I gave you a number of unimpeachable sources documenting the level of 'federal' involvement in both the development of the bioweapon(s) and the coordinated propaganda to promote, and then cover-up the deadly results. (RFK, Jr.'s "The Real Anthony Fauci," and Dr. Pierre Kory's, "The War on Ivermectin." The latest H5N1actions post-date that.)

Although you said you'd look at them, at least, and hopefully read both, and I gave you the 'benefit of the doubt' -- it's very obvious that you didn't even peruse the Tables of Contents. Why do I know? Because you'd BE MAD AS HELL. To realize that you were being "deceived unto death," by intention, tends to do that.
 
No, I think Samuel has missed his own point. He and other men on here are more than willing to openly discuss the potential (by his own admission) damage that the vaccinated may cause those around us. While actively taking part in things themselves that have been extensively proven to cause health issues. Give me a break.
Apparently coming to this late or I am a bit thick...what are people actively taking part in that a proven to cause health issues?
 
Because you'd BE MAD AS HELL. To realize that you were being "deceived unto death," by intention, tends to do that.
Well, unlike you, my emotional range and very identity aren't centered around feeling as though everyone is out to get me.

PS- I actually didn't "read" the book, I used the audio version. I listened to it with a friend who is far more pro-vax than I will ever be, we both found it fascinating, just happened to research further into counter-explanations/theories, as I do with most things. Although admittedly it ruins the fun of conspiracy theories.
 
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I think it's anything BUT that Zyklon-B injection, @paterfamilias... :)

No clue. Figured it was easier to ask for explicit clarification than go back and reread the whole thread.

Also not so sure about the fat old guys bit either.
As a guy who used to be obese but who will happily take the mat with any three 25 year old guys off the street now as my fitness journey has progressed, I am not sure about how to take the critique beyond

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Also not so sure about the fat old guys bit either.
As a guy who used to be obese but who will happily take the mat with any three 25 year old guys off the street now as my fitness journey has progressed, I am not sure about how to take the critique beyond
My comments were directed specifically towards those who hold a holier-than-thou attitude towards the vaccinated. I'm not a thin person myself but if I ever had the audacity to accuse others of taking a suicidal poison poke, of being mutants, of being martial red flags, while endangering the health of their families as well as my own, i'd make dang sure I was a picture of perfection myself first.
 
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My comments were directed specifically towards those who hold a holier-than-thou attitude towards the vaccinated. I'm not a thin person myself but if I ever had the audacity to accuse others of taking a suicidal poison poke, of being mutants, of being martial red flags, of endangering the health of their family and my own, i'd make dang sure I was a picture of perfection myself first.
I am not sure how that follows.

Walk with me for a moment on an analogy.
I have simply horrible handwriting. Everyone in my family seems to be a nexus where all bad handwriting collected in an effort to hold back the forces of legibility.
Unsurprisingly the family is full of doctors. Not sure if this is a chicken and egg conundrum or just a coincidence. Who knows.
Now, with my bona fides established, as a person with poor hand writing, should I not ask someone to make an effort to be more legible when at the whiteboard making a presentation if I am unable to read what they wrote?

It also occurs to me that people have far more mundane criteria than the shots for not considering the notion of pairing with a potential suitor and have had since before any of our time.
Being obese is a great example as is age, income/assets, hair colour for some, race and religion certainly, political beliefs, disability, comparative intelligence...the list could get silly long.

So I am not sure how adding new potential factors makes the overall issue any different beyond simple accelerationism on a already well trodden path.

Part of the issue to my mind is the double edged sword of modern western world living.
We are high tech and comfortable enough to not need to pair off based upon factors like trading between tribes/villages or bride price/dowry or simply can he work the land and will she work beside me and the like.

Those who see the covid shots as a significant sea change are simply taking on from one point of view, a new bit of criteria that helps to pidgin hole whether this is a potential mate or not. In the case of men, I would have thought that it still doesn't put them on par with the number of disqualifying traits that pop culture tells us woman use to parse out men.
Not a man v woman thing, simply that woman are the sexual and by extension reproductive gatekeepers in these modern times and by extension are far more able to be parsimonious.


Thoughts?
 
Thoughts?

I would simply never date a smoker. And I recognize that's less damaging, and less harmful to others, than being/having re-worked DNA to produce spike proteins. Sorry. Facts are pesky things.

But I have not seen many (OK, any, over the age of 16) smokers who would try to convince others to take up an addiction virtually every single one of them regret for themselves.

Well, unlike you, my emotional range and very identity aren't centered around feeling as though everyone is out to get me.

They're not. Sorry to burst your bubble.

PS- I actually didn't "read" the book, I used the audio version. I listened to it with a friend who is far more pro-vax than I will ever be, we both found it fascinating, just happened to research further into counter-explanations/theories, as I do with most things. Although admittedly it ruins the fun of conspiracy theories.
Which? They cover entirely different aspects of that conspiracy to ultimately kill billions.
 
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I would simply never date a smoker. And I recognize that's less damaging, and less harmful to others, than being having re-worked DNA to produce spike proteins. Sorry. Facts are pesky things.

But I have not seen many (OK, any, over the age of 16) smokers who would try to convince others to take up an addiction virtually every single one of them regret for themselves.



They're not. Sorry to burst your bubble.


Which? They cover entirely different aspects of that conspiracy to ultimately kill billions.

Looks like you are agreeing with me that the shots are just a new criteria that is part of living in this modern world when it comes to mate selection.

Not fond of what times are to come but I can't say that anything about modernity makes me not wish for a new Byzantium hideaway.
 
@paterfamilias- Asking someone to write better so you can understand something implies a shared, objective goal. It's not about judging the person's character and worth. Imagine if you started telling the person holding the presentation that you're not going to reproduce with them because you can't read their handwriting. What sort of reaction would you expect from them? Surely they'd fire back with something along the lines of "well dude your handwriting sucks too" and on top of that "you most likely can't read well." "Perhaps I wouldn't want to reproduce with you either."

Using someone's vaccination status to make unfounded accusations regarding intelligence, ability to critically think, or moral motives goes beyond preferring brunettes over blondes. (I don't know why anyone would, I'm biased though).

Anyway, you're right humans have always used various preferences to chose who they sleep with for centuries. My problem is that, this, like many of those preferences has become a social divide that creates distrust of the vaccinated and reduces them from actual people to symbols of something more sinister.

Are y'all even filtering ladies out because they're worthy of being filtered out or are you leading with accusations and assumptions prior to any real engagement with them.

And when does this stop??? How many young ladies have probably taken the vaccine at the direction of their parents? Imagine girl's my nieces age or your daughter's ages, who will look to marry and have children in the future. Having to deal with being told things like this due to something they really weren't even old enough to make an informed decision about. Especially by cranky old miserable men who use it at means to feel better about themselves. It's absolutely childish.
 
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@theleastofthese, back to your reaction about chickens, I'm surprised you didn't know what has been going on there. You need to broaden where you get the news from. I think that would help you understand where people are coming from in a whole range of conversations. Much of the stuff people are saying about vaccines is just known issues for years now, and we've long ago incorporated that data into our understanding of the world. It feels like you've been living under a rock when you react with surprise to such issues which really are not controversial.

Let us know what news sources you tend to follow, and we can suggest some additional ones to fill in the gaps, so you can have a more well-rounded appreciation of what's going on in the world into the future.
 
And when does this stop??? How many young ladies have probably taken the vaccine at the direction of their parents? Imagine girl's my nieces age or your daughter's ages, who will look to marry and have children in the future. Having to deal with being told things like this due to something they really weren't even old enough to make an informed decision about, by cranky old miserable men who use it at means to feel better about themselves.
I don’t get why you think that it is reasonable to raise such a stink about a family making what they believe is an informed decision. The fact that you disagree with their decision doesn’t freaking matter. You are the one who is taking the holier-than-thou position. You are judging all families involved for not being open to marrying a person who is in the midst of one of the largest medical experiments that has ever occurred. An experiment whose final results have not yet been determined.

This is a two way street. If a girl makes a decision that families who have taken any of the jabs were off the table, would you support her right to make that decision?
Would it be hypocritical for you to support her decision?

Quite frankly, we are just a small group of outliers who don’t matter a hill of beans in the overall scheme of things. There are plenty of guys in this group who would jump at the chance to marry the girls that you have described, they are in fact salivating. That should make you happy that none of us “old, fat guys” (well, one out of two qualifications) become their husbands.
Much ado about nothing, kid.

Childish, you say?
Couldn’t agree more.
 
@paterfamilias- Asking someone to write better so you can understand something implies a shared, objective goal. You're not about judging the person's character and worth. Imagine if you started telling the person holding the presentation that you're not going to reproduce with them because you can't read their handwriting. What sort of reaction would you expect from them? Surely they'd fire back with something along the lines of "well dude your handwriting sucks too" and on top of that "you most likely can't read well." "Perhaps I wouldn't want to reproduce with you either."

Using someone's vaccination status to make unfounded accusations regarding intelligence, ability to critically think, or moral motives goes beyond preferring brunettes over blondes. (I don't know why anyone would, I'm biased though).

Anyway, you're right humans have always used various preferences to chose who they sleep with for centuries. My problem is that, this, like many of those preferences has become a social divide that creates distrust of the vaccinated and reduces them from actual people to symbols of something more sinister.

Are y'all even filtering ladies out because they're worthy of being filtered out or are you leading with accusations and assumptions prior to any real engagement with them. And when does this stop? How many young ladies have probably taken the vaccine at the direction of their parents? Imagine girl's my nieces age or your daughters ages, who will look to marry and have children in the future. Having to deal with being told things like that this by cranky old miserable men. It's absolutely childish.


With respect to handwriting not being enough to reject someone, the analogy was meant to be pretty loosey goosy but I also don't know what you know about reasons guys will be dismissed from consideration outside of your own thoughts on the matter.
I was lucky enough to meet my wife quite young while I was fitness signaling with a q-beam. So I have only had so much personal experience with the trivial reasons that men won't get the time of day from woman. I have however watched rather a lot of guys get the brush over things seemingly as trivial as my analogy.


I have not seen much about the vaccinated being judged for having taken the shot. I have however seen an enormous amount of purely irrational hyperbolic garbage from tje other side. Baby/grandma killers, plague rats, dirty disease ridden etc and too stupid to understand science blah blah blah.
I would absolutely say that this is far more prevelant narrative and worse it is an institutionally supported narrative.
I think that the unease you feel might be one of ecological niche in that this site is one of the few where the majority were not just low agreeability types...see our rebellion against the cultural norms around family and marriage by way of proof of comcept...but there are frankly rather a lot of info geeks and nerd here who enjoy digging into problems like the obfuscation of the data over the shots. So this environment is probably on the extreme right side of the bell curve.

I agree about the social divide. The unfortunate thing is that we are again back to institutional pressures which helped to femt the divide as well as pour fuel and start flinging matches between the respective camps
Personally I am a weirdo who sees an apocalyptic geomagnetic excursion coming in our lifetime and I really don't see that much mileage in being bent over the machinations which got us here given that in my opinion, the overwhelming majority of people will not survive to worry about this issue. That it is just an ugly example of pre collapse humanity. So... I figure that if by some stretch of the imagination a woman of child bering age falls for my dubious charms and she meets my other criteria (mainly IQ and personality related stuff) that we can address tje vaccination issue if the need arrives.
Long way of saying that I don't have the issue at the forefront of my mind.


I can't speak for others but I can give you a no bs look into how one guy...admittedly the oddest duck in the pond... filters his search. No clue if that insight will help or not.

If child bearing age then willing to go into production soonest. A very pro natalism stance. My political beliefs or willing to accept that I will be setting policy for the family in that respect...and no it is not being overbearimg, I am a teacher by nature and would walk her though all the data and proofs etc so she will agree if she is not a kook. Good positive attitude. Wants to focus on mom, family, home, schooling as opposed to any degree of girl bossing. Must like the idea of homesteading, scolding chickens for their silly behavior, must have the patience of a saint as I am a handful and prefer that she can dress like Rosie the riveter on occasion and help me with wrenching on projects or learn to drive a tractor and help me stretch wire or dig a pond.
You know, a normal woman two hundred years ago. Well...save for being even more patient, cause...it is me she would marry after all.

I have turned down women who were very much into what we have going in the family so I will tell you what put me off as I already said what would make the big ape swoon.
In one case, there was just such a gap between us that we both had a very difficult time communicating with the young woman. I am more utilitarian by nature but I do have enough of a romantic in me that I wish to be able to love a wife, not just treasure her. This would not have been a kind match for any of us.
There have been four who had body counts that made me very uncomfortable and as a result there could be no match.
There have been at least three where there was no common ground politically or culturally. One who got really offended when I mud stomped her on a topic where she has a degree and she Really did not like my proofs as they offended here political world view. That brings us to who knows how many who simply can not accept that someone has to be in charge in a family. Personally I intended to run my family and am willing to accept the responsibility for my own f'ups as well as those of my family. So, as this is the only way I function, woman unwilling to accept this fact are not a good match.
I suspect there are others things...
Not willing to consider someone who can not be in the country legally anymore as I have been through that palaver and paid tens of thousands of dollars in lawyers and court fees just to have it fail in the end.
Errr....have I mentioned patient?
 
I don’t get why you think that it is reasonable to raise such a stink about a family making what they believe is an informed decision. The fact that you disagree with their decision doesn’t freaking matter. You are the one who is taking the holier-than-thou position. You are judging all families involved for not being open to marrying a person who is in the midst of one of the largest medical experiments that has ever occurred. An experiment whose final results have not yet been determined.

This is a two way street. If a girl makes a decision that families who have taken any of the jabs were off the table, would you support her right to make that decision?
Would it be hypocritical for you to support her decision?

Quite frankly, we are just a small group of outliers who don’t matter a hill of beans in the overall scheme of things. There are plenty of guys in this group who would jump at the chance to marry the girls that you have described, they are in fact salivating. That should make you happy that none of us “old, fat guys” (well, one out of two qualifications) become their husbands.
Much ado about nothing, kid.

Childish, you say?
Couldn’t agree more.
🤣🤣🤣 Every post at the hands of Mark C (and some others) is nothing but tangents, sweeping judgments, and self-righteous insults. Yet there you are enthusiastically supporting it all with your little "like" button. But the moment someone like me speaks up to suggest that maybe a little self-reflection is in order before calling others genetically altered, infertile, contagious, dangers to others- suddenly I'm the problem? What a joke... Where was all this righteous energy you have when young ladies were being spoken about in such a manner? Oh that's right- you were holding your tongue because it didn't affect you, therefore it doesn't matter. You saved all of that outrage for the moment the words "fat" and "old" were mentioned 🤣

Interesting how some men are perfectly fine dishing out disrespect, but can’t handle the slightest pushback without falling apart themselves.
 
🤣🤣🤣 Every post at the hands of Mark C (and some others) is nothing but tangents, sweeping judgments, and self-righteous insults.
Enough. Grow the hell up!

You made a choice. The evidence you were ignorant of now is a FACT, whether you like it or not.

"30% vaxx-induced decline in fertility" - was the point of the thread. You don't like that fact. Turns out that the bigger issue for many of us is - why take a wife, and then find out that not only is she infertile, but has destroyed her immune system? Oh, yeah, and she's been re-engineered to produce spike protein - which is the ADMITTED POINT of the mRNA gene-mod.

You want to insult me, and anyone else here you don't know as 'fat', slobby, and a bunch of other "tangents, sweeping judments, and self-righteous insults," but won't own up to a choice you made that may very well mean an early death. THAT is the unspoken reality, and - I strongly suspect - at the heart of your "self-righteous indignation."

You'd be better off reading what has long been suggested, and see if it is possible to save yourself from that choice, by trying to restore your immune system, heart, and circulation. Strokes, clots, and myocarditis are genuine possibilities. Rather than insulting folks here, you could ask for information you obviously lack.

A bigger issue has been revealed. Any woman I'd choose as a wife had better be able to admit when she's wrong. But to get all huffy and suggest we MUST ignore potential deadly reality so as not to be 'judgmental' sounds a HELL of a lot like the kind of Woke Idiocy that we rejected along with bogus 'science.'
 
see if it is possible to save yourself from that choice, by trying to restore your immune system, heart, and circulation.
Yeah, I'm not the one in need of heart restoration... And actually, don't worry, I'll be fine. At this point I'm fairly convinced that any of your top secret information is easily accessible via any public boomer Facebook group.
 
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