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Is it right or wrong

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Was at the retreat and a group of kids/adults- started imitating preachers of different denominations. Do you think that it is wrong and insulting or do you think it is ok.... After thinking about it for a day I have decided it was wrong. Especially because it was in a large group of people and so many people can view it differently.
 
And by what standard do you feel this is wrong?
 
There was so many different backgrounds in how people where raised Including the views on the Bible. What if the group imitated a penetcostal preacher or southern baptist preacher. And someone in the group who went to said church. Knew there was people in the group that did not go to a penetecostal or southern baptist church but where doing the imitating that said person could be very offended. Biblical familie is on excepting everyone not just some
 
People need to learn that it's OK to be offended. It's also OK to laugh at yourself and your denomination once in a while.

In saying that, I also think that if you have a problem with what someone said, calling them out about it on the forum directly after the retreat isn't the way to go about it. Approach them in private first.
 
James A said:
What if the group imitated a penetcostal preacher or southern baptist preacher. And someone in the group who went to said church. Knew there was people in the group that did not go to a penetecostal or southern baptist church but where doing the imitating that said person could be very offended.
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What if ... and ... could be... This is a very long and specific scenario before even finding someone who could be offended - before even getting to the question of "were they actually offended", or the even bigger question of "does that matter anyway".

It is a trend among modern youth to pre-emptively defend people against possible offence, just in case. That's why you have white people getting all upset about statements that might maybe possibly be seen as racist against blacks. And straight people getting all upset about things that just might possibly be "homophobic". Usually the people who are being defended don't actually see it offensive in the first place.

Which is why modern comedians mostly only joke about sex, because it's seen as safe. Old comedies are a lot funnier, because they joked about people, using stereotypes - and the people being joked about laughed along at themselves. And stereotypes are funny because they are at least partly true.

Relax. You haven't got this gut reaction from scripture, but from cultural conditioning.

In the highly unlikely scenario that someone actually found something like this personally offensive, they'll point that out all by themselves.
 
Yes, if you hang out with drunkards or thieves you're at risk of following them, don't do that. But that's not what we're talking about here.

Back to the point - do you know any person who was actually personally offended and upset by the situation you describe?
If no - then you're inventing an issue that doesn't exist, it's all in your own head. Forget it.
If yes - then encourage them, if they think it is serious enough to actually do something about, to personally and privately discuss it with the people who they feel offended them. Then it's no longer your problem and you can forget it.
And if they don't think it's important enough to do that, then once again there is no issue and you can still forget it.
 
Please say what you mean more bluntly and clearly, as that is confusing.
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Thread purpose has been reached. Putting infromation out there in a thread saying right or wrong automatically puts infomation out there so people can look at the sorrundings of ones approach.
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Do you mean the purpose of this thread is to tell certain individuals "some people might find your behaviour at the retreat offensive", so that they might choose not to joke in this manner in future?
The sole purpose of the thread was to state your own opinion, that certain unnamed individuals behaved inappropriately?
 
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James A said:
Was at the retreat and a group of kids/adults- started imitating preachers of different denominations. Do you think that it is wrong and insulting or do you think it is ok.... After thinking about it for a day I have decided it was wrong. Especially because it was in a large group of people and so many people can view it differently.
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I appreciate your heart on this brothers. Or shows a sweet spirit and a willingness to stand up for others.

I wasn’t there of course but my gut instinct is that most believers would have been fairly amused by the event. Christians tend to have a pretty good sense of humor and are willing to see themselves through the eyes of others. I would think of it as something akin to Jeff Foxworthy making redneck jokes. It comes from within and from a place of acceptance.

Have you seen any of Tim Hawkins stand up comedy? If not you should watch it. He’s very funny and jokes about Christians and our foibles in the same way.
 
I was raised mormon....but have always been able to laugh at mormon jokes. The same for any other joke really.
The only jokes that really aren't funny in my opinion are those that are msking light of what is morally wrong, like joking about a clear sin like adultery. I really have no appreciation for jokes that make men look dumb (or women either for that matter)
Blonde jokes are another matter....and sometimes really funny! (especially once you know someone like the blonde in the jokes Lol)
I think it is very good to be sensitive to real people that we know and keep the golden rule in mind. Making fun of political figures, or other public figures like preachers, is different though, and is just communicating opinions. We don't want to force everyone into agreeing that the emperor's new clothes are beautiful out of an extreme politeness.....even when the emperor is not within hearing, but we don't want to hurt our friends.
 
Joleneakamama said:
I was raised mormon....but have always been able to laugh at mormon jokes. The same for any other joke really.
The only jokes that really aren't funny in my opinion are those that are msking light of what is morally wrong, like joking about a clear sin like adultery. I really have no appreciation for jokes that make men look dumb (or women either for that matter)
Blonde jokes are another matter....and sometimes really funny! (especially once you know someone like the blonde in the jokes Lol)
I think it is very good to be sensitive to real people that we know and keep the golden rule in mind. Making fun of political figures, or other public figures like preachers, is different though, and is just communicating opinions. We don't want to force everyone into agreeing that the emperor's new clothes are beautiful out of an extreme politeness.....even when the emperor is not within hearing, but we don't want to hurt our friends.
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I think there is probably something healthy about making light of stereotypes. It's good to be able to laugh at oneself; when people or groups take themselves too serious it leads to problems. And to color our differences in a lighthearted manner; rather than a dark manner or hide them in denial is good. It lets off steam and social friction in positive ways. Vastly superior to offence culture that has gripped the younger generations; comics won't even play colleges these days. They used to be a mainstay for them.

Laughter is the best medicine.
 
I’ve had a good laugh making fun of preachers in the past, and will again in the future. But I always try to keep in mind the saying, ‘Touch not God’s anointed’. (1 Chronicles 16:22 and Psalm 105:15) I feel there is a line we ‘Do Not Cross’. If a minister has been called of God, screws up, God will deal with him. In those cases, I try to stay in the lane God gave me.
 
Phillip said:
I’ve had a good laugh making fun of preachers in the past, and will again in the future. But I always try to keep in mind the saying, ‘Touch not God’s anointed’. (1 Chronicles 16:22 and Psalm 105:15) I feel there is a line we ‘Do Not Cross’. If a minister has been called of God, screws up, God will deal with him. In those cases, I try to stay in the lane God gave me.
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Most preachers are too big for their britches... they kinda deserve ridicule.
 
PeteR said:
Most preachers are too big for their britches... they kinda deserve ridicule.
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God has again granted me the privilege of preaching and teaching His word and it is a responsibility I take most seriously. Teachers are warned of the stricter judgement they face so I take that to heart with every study lesson I prepare. That said, being ridiculed by fellow believers for doing the job God has given me to do is one of the most difficult and discouraging challenges I find I have to deal with. All the hate and abuse from the unredeemed is a breeze in comparison. Just sayin..... . Shalom
 
@frederick , I am a 'recovering' pastor with ten years in the pulpit and 8 more leading home fellowships. I did say 'most' leaving room for a few good exceptions...

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Ok, that was a test. Did you:

A) Laugh?

B) Feel shocked and offended?

C) Laugh and then decide you should have been offended so decided to say B even though it wasn't true?
 
A.

That's a funny short circuiting of the whole message.
 
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