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Is Porn Use good for Christians?

frederick said:
Polygamy is a game changer! Add until the lack is overcome.
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That solves the problem of men being tempted to step out because they have a wife that is less interested. That doesn't solve the problem of  why she is less (or not) interested. If the problem is just she needs/wants intimacy less then he does, polygyny might be a good solution. If the problem lies in him not being a good husband or lover, he's just going to muck his life up worse by adding a woman to his family.

Nice is when things are really good, and you're just adding a wife to share the "blessings." ;)
 
frederick said:
I found it to be a very interesting conversation. Thanks for posting it.
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I think porn can cause men to cheat on their spouses or girlfriends or even women to cheat on their husbands or boyfriends and vice versa. Some people don't have girlfriends so it wouldn't affect them in that way though it definitely causes men to think of women as objects. Some websites state that it causes some men to rape which may not be accurate. It is an addiction that can lead to men having sex with other women and women having sex with other men and lying about it to cover it up. Some people would lie about their porn addiction as well to cover that up since they are too scared to admit that they have a problem.
 
GrooveyDude said:
I think porn can cause men to cheat on their spouses or girlfriends or even women to cheat on their husbands or boyfriends and vice versa. Some people don't have girlfriends so it wouldn't affect them in that way though it definitely causes men to think of women as objects. Some websites state that it causes some men to rape which may not be accurate. It is an addiction that can lead to men having sex with other women and women having sex with other men and lying about it to cover it up. Some people would lie about their porn addiction as well to cover that up since they are too scared to admit that they have a problem.
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What is causal mechanism exactly?

When man has orgasm alone, with or without porn help, it will lower his testosterone which will lower his motivation for sex.

Also porn is way more stimulative than sex, so it will reduce need for real women.

In both cases porn will reduce cheating.

You need truly good causative mechanism to owercome two very powerful above.

Also, no woman has gotten horny after finding man is porn addict. Effect is probably opposite. From wetland to Sahara Deset.
 
MemeFan said:
Prove it.
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You're not supposed to want another man's wife. If you have sex with her, you and her are committing adultery.

Do you know the marital status of every single female "actor" in each porn film? What are you thinking about when you watch possibly married women committing these sex acts.
 
MemeFan said:
Prove it.
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Romans 14 tells us "... whatever does not proceed from faith is sin".

For me at least, whacking off to porn has never proceeded from faith. It has always totally been the opposite of faith.

I would normally say that porn is detrimental to a man, more so than it is "sin". Still, according to the Romans 14 definition I think the word "sin" fits.
 
NBTX11 said:
You're not supposed to want another man's wife. If you have sex with her, you and her are committing adultery.

Do you know the marital status of every single female "actor" in each porn film? What are you thinking about when you watch possibly married women committing these sex acts.
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Bartato said:
Romans 14 tells us "... whatever does not proceed from faith is sin".

For me at least, whacking off to porn has never proceeded from faith. It has always totally been the opposite of faith.

I would normally say that porn is detrimental to a man, more so than it is "sin". Still, according to the Romans 14 definition I think the word "sin" fits.
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Are you allowed to see what naked people look like for medical or educational purpose look like?

So, just because you can see naked body of person you haven't married doesn't mean is it sin. Yet, could situation could person horny?

It gynecologist doing checking another man's participating in sin?

I feel there is more to this, but I can't find reason.
 
MemeFan said:
Are you allowed to see what naked people look like for medical or educational purpose look like?

So, just because you can see naked body of person you haven't married doesn't mean is it sin. Yet, could situation could person horny?

It gynecologist doing checking another man's participating in sin?

I feel there is more to this, but I can't find reason.
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Didn't say seeing naked bodies was sin. But what is the reason for doing so.

A gynecologist is doing his/her job. Providing medical procedures and there simply isn't anyway to do that without the patient being naked. You can't perform an exam through clothes. You can't deliver a baby through clothes. You just can't. The gynecologist is not receiving sexual gratification (or shouldn't be) from performing routine medical procedures or delivering babies.

So yes, you're allowed to see naked bodies for medical purposes. It wouldn't delve into sin, until the reason you were doing so was not medical purposes, but sexual gratification. That's just my opinion. However, I could definitely see a Christian having a personal conviction for not doing any job that would require them to view another person naked. Maybe they know they would be tempted by it and want to stay away from it.

On the other hand, when you do watch porn, you ARE watching it for your own gratification. Period. I gave a good and valid Biblical reason why it is wrong. If others want to justify their actions, have at it, but I am not going to do so.
 
MemeFan said:
Are you allowed to see what naked people look like for medical or educational purpose look like?

So, just because you can see naked body of person you haven't married doesn't mean is it sin. Yet, could situation could person horny?

It gynecologist doing checking another man's participating in sin?

I feel there is more to this, but I can't find reason.
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Equating medical and educational nudity with porn use is pretty silly.

Medicine and education can be done by faith in Christ. Porn has never been the fruit of faith in Christ.
 
Slumberfreeze said:
I'm just going to address the title question. "Is porn good for Christians?"

Jesus set the bar on good pretty high when He repelled the title 'good' in Mark 10 18.
And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

I bring up that point because 'good' is not a word to be thrown around lightly.
2 Peter 3
10But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar, the elements will be dissolved in the fire, and the earth and its works will not be found.
11Since everything will be dissolved in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to conduct yourselves in holiness and godliness

Holiness is the act of keeping oneself pure by not sinning, and refusing to touch anything that has been touched by sin. Holiness is the principal issue behind not eating meat if you find that it has been offered to an idol.
Godliness is the lifestyle of good works, worship, and abstinence from sin motivated by the fear (phobos) of the Lord.

These things are the correct manner to conduct yourself for coming face to face with God.

Therefore I would say that Holiness and Godliness are "Good for a Christian". I'm going to make a narrow-eyed understatement and say I do not believe that porn rises to the level of good. Highly recommend a word study on the word good (agathos G18) for some background on what the bible says actually is good and see where pornography might fit.

Further more if looking at a married woman with desire is adultery, then wanking it to porn of a woman whom is married is adultery and by definition is not good.

But James T. Christian is willing to go to the next level and do some research because he is very legalistic Motivated.

And he is able to determine that the young lady whose frantic copulation he is about to witness is nothing more than the perfect definition of a harlot for whom Christ died.
and therefore more or less fair game, under the law of Moses.

I would like to tell James (whose spank session has already been delayed) that harlotry is DISTASTEFUL to God, and he regards the wages of a harlot to be as defiled as the price of the sale of a dog, and He refuses to allow even the money from such things to be brought into the temple. (Deut 23:18).

Harlotry is not 'good' for Christians. But James, who by this time has ants in his pants, would like to point out that he is not hiring a prostitute himself... because that would be joining Christ to a harlot and that just won't do...( 1 Cor 6:15) he is merely watching and wanking.

I'll direct him back to the adulterers who were only watching and desiring, and still called adulterers by Christ. If a man does it in his thoughts and desires, it is done in his heart.

It is not good for christians.

But really, James already knew that. James doesn't care about that. Not right now. He'll worry about that sometime when he's fussing with the tissue paper or something. Right now James just wants to know if he can get away with it. But I'm really not here to help James feel comfortable with the how this sin compares relative to other sins, I'm here to address whether or not porn is GOOD for CHRISTIANS.

So I wanted to know what the author of that article might think of as 'good porn' and he had already obliged with this article.

https://biblicalgenderroles.com/the...ctually-be-a-ministry-and-be-honoring-to-god/

If you don't want to read the article in it's entirety allow me to bring forward a quote of what this guy thinks is a good thing.

"In the same way we as Christians should support the production of pornographic movies that adhere to a Christian worldview of sex.
That means movies that use only married actors to perform sex scenes.
It also means that these movies do not have types of sexual activities that violate God’s law such as homosexual acts and orgies.
From an amateur perspective, we should encourage Christian married couples to produce nude images and images of sex acts that are within the bounds of God’s law."

hah. This guy. This wolf in sheep's clothing. This cloud without rain. Do you understand that it doesn't matter how many good things this guy has to say about patriarchy or biblical gender roles? In it is the poison pill. "We should ONLY look at and desire OTHER MEN'S WIVES." Oh and if the missus is game, you should film her for other people's 'edification'.

Do you understand that Balak only had to send in the harlots to turn God against Israel? Do you think God would turn a blind eye to these preceedings? I assure you He would not.

So much for that guy. His definition of good porn revolves strictly around 'other men's wives'. I suppose i should pose the question: What's your definition of good porn? Although I can honestly say I'm not optimistic about the results of that question.

Philippians 4:8
Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, dwell on these things.
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I know this is an older post but thank you for your time and effort in response. I have so many reasons to be against it but one of the main things I like to do is exam a thing and see it's fruit. The fruit of porn seems to be human trafficking, abuse, drug use, stds, and people that have performed many times because of the gun that is held at them or their loved ones, with no free will, high suicide rate, etc. etc... Personally I want no part in this. I do not feel that it shows honor to our Heavenly Father.
 
FollowingHim said:
I think that it is very clear from the society around us that pornography is, as a general rule, harmful. This is why many secular people oppose pornography also. Something doesn't need to be clearly condemned in the Bible as sinful to be a bad idea.

I do take the author's general point that, if you really dig hard into scripture, an argument can be made that pornography is not explicitly condemned. Having said that, we are told not to "uncover thy neighbour's wife", and we're also told that a man who sleeps with a virgin is required to marry her. This means that every woman doing porn, who are not virgins, are at least to be considered betrothed if not married to another man. This means that it is sinful for us to "uncover" them, to see them naked. It would be pretty difficult to find porn that didn't violate this (except for some child porn, which is obviously wrong for plenty of other reasons).

I'd put this into the grey area of "potentially arguable scripturally, but don't do it". The practical implications of that are
  1. If you're deciding what to do tonight, choose not to do porn. But:
  2. If you're looking back on your life and trying to figure out where you sinned in the past so you can confess your sin to God, don't worry about seeing the odd bit of porn because scripture isn't entirely clear, pay attention instead to the stuff you are certain was sinful (from clear scripture and/or clear personal conviction).
Human sexuality is certainly normal, healthy and human. Don't feel guilty about it. Find a good wife (or more than one), and enjoy heaps of it, with her (or them).

I also thoroughly agree with this:

But the solution to that is to exercise human sexuality "in normal and healthy ways" - in other words, find a good wife and take her to bed. The church has certainly repressed sexuality by refusing to talk about it except in hushed tones as something seemingly "dirty", by discouraging marriage of mature teenagers and promoting long engagements and late marriages (long times of temptation), by refusing polygamy and thus increasing the temptation to adultery... This is a major problem. The solution is not to simply then justify the perversions that result by saying that they aren't technically banned by scripture, but rather to promote marriage - ie encourage mature young people struggling with temptation to marry, help married couples to truly satisfy each other's desires, and when that is not enough encourage married men struggling with temptation to marry additional wives.
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Net results I see with porn is a reality distraction and damages your realistic view of natural beauty standards and female behavior. Eventually guys only want the barbie porn robot looking women, is like setting us up with a fake internal meta verse loopback, and that keeps us from interest in the real ones. It can also damage one's reality, social ability, and distort natural sexual energy, scattered all over.
I heard invading enemies broadcasted porn to subjects, to damage and weaken their men. So, it's to weaken the enemy ultimately, not to build them up. Why is it free everywhere?
Is not like free missionary works. Lol
 
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If you're into porn, STOP NOW! Run as fast as you can in the other direction. Ask for forgiveness of your sins, turn around, and start doing right things. If you mess up, confess your sins, turn around and start doing right once again.

What did Joseph do when confronted with sexual sin. He ran!

Genesis 39:12
12 that she caught him by his garment, saying, “Lie with me.” But he left his garment in her hand, and fled and ran outside.
 
NBTX11 said:
If you're into porn, STOP NOW! Run as fast as you can in the other direction. Ask for forgiveness of your sins, turn around, and start doing right things. If you mess up, confess your sins, turn around and start doing right once again.

What did Joseph do when confronted with sexual sin. He ran!

Genesis 39:12
12 that she caught him by his garment, saying, “Lie with me.” But he left his garment in her hand, and fled and ran outside.
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Won't fly because temptation stay where it is, but addiction cames with you.

Addiction cann't be defeated by running. It must be overcome.
 
MemeFan said:
Won't fly because temptation stay where it is, but addiction cames with you.

Addiction cann't be defeated by running. It must be overcome.
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You can quit many things you’re addicted to just by simply getting sick and tired of it. I know at least two people that quit addictions by simply getting sick of what it was doing to them and simply quitting. Maybe this does not work in every case but I’ve seen it happen.
 
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