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January 20th 2025 - Donald Trump is BACK!
- Thread starter Man_in_the_Middle
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It has to do with how weak and soft the population is. 500 million Europeans are pretty weak and soft. The Americans are somewhere in the middle. The Russians aren't weak and soft.
FWIW I'm not calling the Poles weak and soft. I'm calling the Germans, British, French, Dutch, Belgians, and Danes weak and soft.
If the US gets a single ton or rare earth ore from Ukraine, it'll be about 2000 lbs more than it got for the first couple hundred billion dollars.
Maybe I misunderstand your meaning, but Trump isn’t contracting ore for future help.
It’s all to pay us back for what Biden gave them.
It's not really to pay back for what Biden gave them. That's PR - when you think about it you realise he'd want this deal even without Biden's donations, and if he'd want it anyway it's not about that. In reality nobody will be expecting to get that money back.
It's to set up a long-term commercial arrangement that will give security of supply of critical minerals that may otherwise need to be purchased from adversaries like China and Russia. He's a businessman and this is both good business and good for national security. He'll likely end up making similar deals with other countries also in order to get security of supply for the full range of minerals the US needs, as Ukraine can't supply everything.
The fact that it could help secure a ceasefire in Ukraine is a bonus.
It's to set up a long-term commercial arrangement that will give security of supply of critical minerals that may otherwise need to be purchased from adversaries like China and Russia. He's a businessman and this is both good business and good for national security. He'll likely end up making similar deals with other countries also in order to get security of supply for the full range of minerals the US needs, as Ukraine can't supply everything.
The fact that it could help secure a ceasefire in Ukraine is a bonus.
Who normal would be willing to die for regime?
Same problem would exist even if there were not soft people.
Which government in West, except current US, Hungary and Slovakian doesn't hate it's population?
What else do yo expect from Euro commies? Subsidies baby, keep them flowing.
Besides, some in Europe believe US will save them from every BS they voluntarily enter. Hint: Churchill.
If Trump is businessman, then Ukraine is unprofitable venture which needs to be closed.
He can do it himself or let Putin do it. He can get minerals either way (it doesn't matter who wins war). In case of Russia winning, it's in Russia interest to balance China with US and here allowing US companies to minerals will help.
Besides, Ukraine is done. Musk has told he will remove Starlink starting March for Ukraine army which is only workable way Ukraine army communicates which Russians weren't able to defeat. This info would need confirmation.
Why should Europeans die to protect Ukraine from Russia, when they won't even protect their own countries from being invaded by hordes of foreign Muslims.
Like you said, the governments of Europe (other than Hungary and Slovakia) seem to hate their own populations.
As an American, it is so refreshing to finally have a leader that doesn't hate us.