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Older men and young women having families. What do you think?

NBTX11 said:
Where is it said that age 20 is the age of accountability for salvation.

You’re really, really stretching scripture.
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Not really... This goes to headship and authority.
Those under headship are responsible to their head. Their head is responsible to Yeshua.

Remember, sin did not enter into the world by Eve. Though she was the first to sin, the bible tells us that sin entered by Adam.

Children are under the headship of their father. Boys are no longer counted as boys when they hit the age of 20. They are men and subject to the counting of men that God authorized. Girls appear to remain under their fathers headship until they are married.
 
Man_in_the_Middle said:
Not really... This goes to headship and authority.
Those under headship are responsible to their head. Their head is responsible to Yeshua.

Remember, sin did not enter into the world by Eve. Though she was the first to sin, the bible tells us that sin entered by Adam.

Children are under the headship of their father. Boys are no longer counted as boys when they hit the age of 20. They are men and subject to the counting of men that God authorized. Girls appear to remain under their father’s headship until they are married.
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I am doubtful that men are ever under headship, other than Christ’s. I would need to see that case made from scripture, but whatever authority of their parent’s they’re under, it ends when a man takes a wife.
 
Bartato said:
I could have thrown in a sexy 59 year old Salma Hayek instead of Kate Beckinsale. Men might still murder for Salma. 😁
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I’m not sure I’d murder for her, but I would die a happy man if I had the chance to spend the night with her, even at her current age. She’s like a fine wine.
 
Maddog said:
I have told my wife many times that babies are wasted on the young and inexperienced. The older parents know how to parent.
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Agreed
I do wish that my first wife and I had not been so effectively inculcated by the boomer truth regime on kids ie don't worry...you have plenty of time, instead you should focus on yoir career and yourself and travel. It took a while to break out of it and I wish we had earlier as I know for a fact now that we have a son that she is a great mom. I also know that I am a very present dad who is involved in his life...I hope that I qualify as a good dad. I do know that I am better at it now than I would have been in my early 20s.

So I don't feel remotely strange about my second wife having been much younger. She was an adult with higher than average intelligence who was explicitly looking for an established couple and we clicked.
I would go further in that it seems obvious that there are really significant advantages for a younger woman to marry an older man in a plural family.

* financially stable and established presumably and thst translates to stable housing and more resources for child rearing

* he has a track record. He literally has more life experience. More marriage experience. More time seeing through bullshit. More time recognizing patters and problems. He is more able by extension to provide stability and safety.

* support network is built in and in ways that especially benefit the new younger wife.
- as they eill be more financially established, she is far more likely to be able to be a stay at home mother and wife. What was once the norm is now seen as exotic and strange. Like spotting a rare near extinct animal
- likely coming pre experienced as a mom sister wife to assist in an allo parenting role (someone who can parent when you are at school, work or just need a nap)
- emotional support and buttress in the form of Sister wife who is you new live in best friend and confidante...one who does legitimately know your life and can be spoken to honestly

* more time to yourself to pursue hobbies and just subjects and activities you enjoy. Compare it with me. Monogamy = 2 young kids which you have to start prepping before 6 AM and drop in at daycare and the other at elementary school before going to work at a lame office for the whole day and then pick up both at day care afterwards. Either pick up fast food on the way home or maybe you are lucky and your guy likes to cook. An hour of modern shit tier brain killing TV and then put the kids to bed. Maybe 30 minutes of couple time twice a week and then exhausted sleep.
Polygyny = 3 kids, your job is being mom and possibly some sort of home based part time gig or business or possibly not. You and sister wife/wives get the kids into their lessons after dad has fed them and left for the day. There are a few chores but plenty of time to get your feet up or do some rading between playing with and teaching the children. If you have a sick day then everything still goes on while you are in bed. The kids are fed, they are educated and the chores get done. You even have a couple or more adults available to care for you if the need arises

* ladies...it is just faster. Middle aged long term married dad already knows who he is, what he wants and is practiced at his dad and husband game. He doesn't need to hem and haw about oh gee I am afraid of committing or I want to play the field with those other girls you are pretending not to know about. You get a man who is ready to marry and start having kids. He is ready to give you a great big slice of his everything and with you make that everything do much bigger.

* last one off the top of my head is maturity. An older guy has been through it all before and learned to control his emotions, his reactions and it is not his first rodeo dealing with the occasional emotional outbursts. It is not his first day on the job when he is handed his newborn child. You get someone who has been tested previously in the specific role you are seeking and passed with flying colors.
 
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If you don't know what it means to have your "jeepney" washed every morning.... well, ask the woman who sells mangos. 😉 She'll probably offer to wash it for you, but charge you for the service.
 
For a sizable segment of the Filipina population, it’s quite a status symbol to marry an older American of any race. It brings cache.
 
frederick said:
Actually, any foreigners qualify. ;)
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Any foreigner? Isn’t it more glamorous to marry someone from a richer country? Some backwater country isn’t as sexy is it?
 
I'll add to the comment above; a foreign middle-aged guy, in reasonable shape, who is clean and healthy, AND has enough to modestly support a woman here will be spoilt for choice. The difficulty arises when you add the requirements of being a solid Christian who is polygyny accepting. Then your moving into a very limited market.
 
frederick said:
I'll add to the comment above; a foreign middle-aged guy, in reasonable shape, who is clean and healthy, AND has enough to modestly support a woman here will be spoilt for choice. The difficulty arises when you add the requirements of being a solid Christian who is polygyny accepting. Then your moving into a very limited market.
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I think that solid Christian women are a limited market no matter how you slice it. If they were Christian they would likely also be at least open to discussion of polygyny.
 
David D said:
I think that solid Christian women are a limited market no matter how you slice it. If they were Christian they would likely also be at least open to discussion of polygyny.
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We would like to think they would be open to the conversation.... So many though say that they do not care what the bible says. They say that their feelings trump the bible.
 
David D said:
I think that solid Christian women are a limited market no matter how you slice it. If they were Christian they would likely also be at least open to discussion of polygyny.
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Man_in_the_Middle said:
We would like to think they would be open to the conversation.... So many though say that they do not care what the bible says. They say that their feelings trump the bible.
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When these women have heard over and over again - many times over - from religious people they hold in high regard, that God instituted monogamy-only, guess what?? They believe what they've heard. Guys, I believed what I'd heard and read. It's not unusual to believed what you've had rammed down your throat repeatedly over the years. In cultures where polygyny is normal, it's not a problem. Unfortunately, we don't live in those cultures, so there is a lot of error to counter, and it takes time.
 
frederick said:
When these women have heard over and over again - many times over - from religious people they hold in high regard, that God instituted monogamy-only, guess what?? They believe what they've heard. Guys, I believed what I'd heard and read. It's not unusual to believed what you've had rammed down your throat repeatedly over the years. In cultures where polygyny is normal, it's not a problem. Unfortunately, we don't live in those cultures, so there is a lot of error to counter, and it takes time.
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I was in the same boat however I wasn't a follower of Christ just a religious idle worshiper that assembled with other religious idle worshipers on Sundays and drank lots of free coffee. When I started to be a Christian is when I stopped worshiping self and started trying to conform to Christ. Then I started accepting biblical truths. I dont think most these women are Christians that claim it.
 
David D said:
And that doesn't really sound like someone that's truly a Christian.
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I know what you mean. I am not quick to pass judgement on that though because I know that we all have to work through things and sometimes we get in the way of righteousness for a time until our hearts are softened.
 
Man_in_the_Middle said:
I know what you mean. I am not quick to pass judgement on that though because I know that we all have to work through things and sometimes we get in the way of righteousness for a time until our hearts are softened.
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Yes, I don't know how God will sort all that out exactly and I know I am offending in many ways that I have no idea about and probably some I do. But when I meet people that really seem to have no desire for righteousness but use religion as a garment to hide stink I really question what's going on...
 
David D said:
Yes, I don't know how God will sort all that out exactly and I know I am offending in many ways that I have no idea about and probably some I do. But when I meet people that really seem to have no desire for righteousness but use religion as a garment to hide stink I really question what's going on...
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I feel ya!! For real.
 
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