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[IndianaLife]

"My grandma smoked for 60 years and died at 80."

Not everyone who plays Russian Roulette dies. Sometimes people take a bottle of Valium and live. Which proves what?

That you should take the advice of a 'doctor' or 'nurse' who recommends any such self-destructive action?

What has been demonstrated, by mass violation of medical ethical standards on human guinea pigs, is that MANY people died, and many more will. That massive immunocompromise HAS taken place among those injected with the mRNA shots, as have strokes, heart issues, and new "turbo-cancers." That "all cause mortality" has spiked. That they all shed spike-proteins to the unfortunates around them. And infertility and spontaneous abortion has gone through the roof.

Why is it that asking, "why was I lied to?" and "what can I do about it?" when someone is given a simple piece of sound advice like, "if you hope to offer children to any of those future wives,

never seems to be an option? And those who drank the Kool-Aid are so quick to defend those who tried to kill them?

AND NOW you KNOW IT.

Your 'offense' is horribly misplaced.

(Yes, I know - a variant of "Stockholm Syndrome." But it should prove something.)

Sorry you don't believe in medicine; perhaps essential oils or magic chats are more your speed.

 

[IndianaLife]

I was skeptical of the vaccine, as was my entire family. I researched it as well as I could with the information that was available at the time. I didn't trust the US to be upfront so I researched other countries as well. I noticed that people, mostly in other countries outside of the US, were reporting two things: one, that their elderly family members who appeared to be perfectly healthy were suddenly "dropping dead" due to heart related issues. I also noticed women reporting having irregular cycles.

It's almost like the loneliness and stress of lockdown and uncertainty can have an impact on health... oh wait, both stress and loneliness are linked to numerous health issues.. .

 

[theleastofthese]

"My grandma smoked for 60 years and died at 80."

Not everyone who plays Russian Roulette dies. Sometimes people take a bottle of Valium and live. Which proves what?

That you should take the advice of a 'doctor' or 'nurse' who recommends any such self-destructive action?

What has been demonstrated, by mass violation of medical ethical standards on human guinea pigs, is that MANY people died, and many more will. That massive immunocompromise HAS taken place among those injected with the mRNA shots, as have strokes, heart issues, and new "turbo-cancers." That "all cause mortality" has spiked. That they all shed spike-proteins to the unfortunates around them. And infertility and spontaneous abortion has gone through the roof.

Why is it that asking, "why was I lied to?" and "what can I do about it?" when someone is given a simple piece of sound advice like, "if you hope to offer children to any of those future wives,

never seems to be an option? And those who drank the Kool-Aid are so quick to defend those who tried to kill them?

AND NOW you KNOW IT.

Your 'offense' is horribly misplaced.

(Yes, I know - a variant of "Stockholm Syndrome."

Speaking of Valium...

 

[FollowingHim]

Guys, this is ridiculously off topic now. @Mark C, you made your point way back on page 2, and I chose not to delete it even when it was complained about. At that point, the discussion should have ended. I come back after a couple of days and find all the usual suspects are having yet another argument about a passionate issue - and the original poster of the thread is nowhere to be seen. His thread has been hijacked by people wanting to preach / rant about vaccines in one direction or another.

That is rude behaviour. Whatever you're talking about. It is rude to hijack the thread of someone who does not want to talk about an issue, to debate that very issue the original poster does not want to talk about.

I generously chose to let the original comments stand. Do we have to jump in and start deleting things, or can you all just be polite adults and respect the fact that this thread is supposed to be about @FlameThePassionate introducing himself?

 

[FlameThePassionate]

I was skeptical of the vaccine, as was my entire family. I researched it as well as I could with the information that was available at the time. I didn't trust the US to be upfront so I researched other countries as well. I noticed that people, mostly in other countries outside of the US, were reporting two things: one, that their elderly family members who appeared to be perfectly healthy were suddenly "dropping dead" due to heart related issues. I also noticed women reporting having irregular cycles.

We had just moved my last living grandmother in with us at the time, so with the information we had, we all decided the best course of action at that time would be for everyone around her to get vaccinated but for my grandmother to remain unvaccinated. We didn't want to risk her suddenly dying from heart related issues.

For years she was fine and never got Covid. My uncle, who refused the vaccine, comes to visit her from another state while he's sick. My grandma ends up getting sick as well. They both test positive for Covid. She has to go to the emergency room and dies.

Like I've mentioned before, I can't even begin to count how many unvaccinated family members we've lost to Covid. Both of my grandmother's, my grandfather, multiple uncles, and multiple aunts. All were unvaccinated.

I realize this is anecdotal evidence. I'm not denying there could be side effects. I'm certainly not claiming that the medical industry or government should be fully trusted. But my faith in God is stronger than any of those concerns.

One of my friend lost BOTH her parents to COVID-19.

That was a wake up call to me to take it more seriously.

At the end of the day, my perspective is that there is too little evidence to support any theory completely.

I got vaccinated because as a young healthy strong Man who's future is a Nurse and who was often around sick people and medical places it made sense to me and even though my medical career is on hold to pay off my debts before I go back to college to get my Nursing Degree, I got it again recently along with my flu shot just to be safe and because it was free.

I know for a fact that YHWH has called me into the medical field as a Nurse and to bring healing to people with my hands in Colorado Springs some day (currently not possible while I work off my debts), so I trust as the medical path in the USA is my path then he will provide and protect and keep me on this path.

 

[FlameThePassionate]

Guys, this is ridiculously off topic now. @Mark C, you made your point way back on page 2, and I chose not to delete it even when it was complained about. At that point, the discussion should have ended. I come back after a couple of days and find all the usual suspects are having yet another argument about a passionate issue - and the original poster of the thread is nowhere to be seen. His thread has been hijacked by people wanting to preach / rant about vaccines in one direction or another.

That is rude behaviour. Whatever you're talking about. It is rude to hijack the thread of someone who does not want to talk about an issue, to debate that very issue the original poster does not want to talk about.

I generously chose to let the original comments stand. Do we have to jump in and start deleting things, or can you all just be polite adults and respect the fact that this thread is supposed to be about @FlameThePassionate introducing himself?

Thank you, I'm not on this website every day so I was surprised to find this much activity this quickly and yes you're right: I don't want to debate this topic.

I've already stated my perspective on it and why I got Vaccinated.

Beyond that, all we can do is speculate and debate, and I have no interest in that about this specific subject.

 

[Mark C]

Thank you, I'm not on this website every day so I was surprised to find this much activity this quickly and yes you're right: I don't want to debate this topic.

Now at least you know that there are many of us who would never put ourselves under your care, and why. There is no longer any debate.

 

[theleastofthese]

The ultimate punishment...not being allowed to treat someone as pleasant as Mark