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theleastofthese

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My friend and I recently got into a discussion about prostitution. He holds the stance that it should be legalized, even admitting that he would most likely partake in using one. He also mentioned the need for safer places and stricter health regulations for prostitutes so their health and lives aren't at such a high risk.

My stance was that even if there was a "safe environment" for them to practice, their health would still be at risk for the following reasons:

A) Women were not created to have casual sex, a woman participating in this behavior is most likely not emotionally well. It's unkind to prey on her weak state of mind.

B) Both condoms and birth control fail. By engaging in casual sex, it's putting the woman at a higher risk of becoming a single mother. And even worse, putting her at risk for having an abortion. She is already not in the right frame of mind and not making the best decisions; if she becomes pregnant, she may feel even more pressure to have an abortion under these circumstances.

C) Many of the women who partake in this work are drug addicts or turn to drugs to cope with their decisions. Why further encourage their behavior when what they need instead is help.

He responds by saying that prostitution has happened since the beginning of time and will always happen. It's better to create a safe place for them to practice, since we can't stop it from happening.

I said we can most certainly stop it from happening and offered many solutions.

I also said that if he truly loved women and cared about their well-being, he would discourage this behavior instead of attempting to put a band-aid on a deeper-rooted problem.

I can only form my opinion from the perspective of a woman. I have to ask, was I too harsh on his stance?
 
You are correct, but the problem won’t disappear any sooner than gluttony and drunkenness will.
 
theleastofthese said:
My friend and I recently got into a discussion about prostitution. He holds the stance that it should be legalized, even admitting that he would most likely partake in using one. He also mentioned the need for safer places and stricter health regulations for prostitutes so their health and lives aren't at such a high risk.

My stance was that even if there was a "safe environment" for them to practice, their health would still be at risk for the following reasons:

A) Women were not created to have casual sex, a woman participating in this behavior is most likely not emotionally well. It's unkind to prey on her weak state of mind.

B) Both condoms and birth control fail. By engaging in casual sex, it's putting the woman at a higher risk of becoming a single mother. And even worse, putting her at risk for having an abortion. She is already not in the right frame of mind and not making the best decisions; if she becomes pregnant, she may feel even more pressure to have an abortion under these circumstances.

C) Many of the women who partake in this work are drug addicts or turn to drugs to cope with their decisions. Why further encourage their behavior when what they need instead is help.

He responds by saying that prostitution has happened since the beginning of time and will always happen. It's better to create a safe place for them to practice, since we can't stop it from happening.

I said we can most certainly stop it from happening and offered many solutions.

I also said that if he truly loved women and cared about their well-being, he would discourage this behavior instead of attempting to put a band-aid on a deeper-rooted problem.

I can only form my opinion from the perspective of a woman. I have to ask, was I too harsh on his stance?
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I don't think you were too harsh. What you said seems reasonable.

Porn is a similar issue (and I bet your friend is addicted to it, considering his mindset). 🥺
 
They made it legal here some years ago. As I understand it, it hasn't improved conditions for women at all, just made it even easier to hide abuse because you can put a legal front on it. It has allowed activists to promote prostitution and make things even worse. But I have no actual contact with the industry so could be mistaken.

Prostitution is extremely degrading for a woman. Men are clearly instructed not to use prostitutes (you can tell your friend that). However, scripture never forbids it (for women). Nowhere are we told "if a woman is found being a prostitute, stone her to death". There is no penalty at all. I find this very interesting.

I think it is God's way of being compassionate to women in poverty. If a woman loses everything in life, her last resort is to hire out her body to keep herself fed. And she is not condemned for doing so. Women don't tend to do this because they wanted to. They do it because they see no other option (even if there is another option and they are mistaken). And we will never stop it, because we will never manage to prevent all bad situations that women may fall into. There will always be a woman somewhere in the world who is desperate enough to resort to this.

So if the Bible does not forbid it, I don't see why secular law should forbid it. This is a problem we should be able to deal with in a constructive way rather than through prosecution - by helping women out of these situations rather than condemning them for falling into them.
 
FollowingHim said:
This is a problem we should be able to deal with in a constructive way rather than through prosecution - by helping women out of these situations rather than condemning them for falling into them.
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Amen, for those that you can help.
Just had one in our house for several weeks who would rather live the “free” lifestyle than follow reasonable rules. Along with her 7 year old son and 5 year old daughter.
Heartbreaking.

The 7 year old to Karin: “Mom said that she doesn’t want to go back to spreading her legs again.”
But she did.

(He called his mother a cxxxxxxxxr once and when Karin jumped him for it he said “Well, she does, I seen her.”)
😢
 
Thank you, I can sometimes get caught up in seeing things from a woman's perspective only.

I have a few friends who aren't believers, he's one of them. Many of them hold the belief that all of my opinions come from a biblical standpoint and that I'm "judging" everyone. I'm not judging these women, I want better for them. Like @FollowingHim pointed out, prostitution is typically a last resort for most women. I find it difficult to believe that so many woman actually want that for themselves.

They also say i'm attempting to take away "women's rights" by holding this opinion. What blows my mind is that they want to participate in casually sleeping with prostitutes, yet I don't see these men lining up to take these women into their homes and offer them a better life.
 
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steve said:
Amen, for those that you can help.
Just had one in our house for several weeks who would rather live the “free” lifestyle than follow reasonable rules. Along with her 7 year old son and 5 year old daughter.
Heartbreaking.

The 7 year old to Karin: “Mom said that she doesn’t want to go back to spreading her legs again.”
But she did.

(He called his mother a cxxxxxxxxr once and when Karin jumped him for it he said “Well, she does, I seen her.”)
😢
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Oh my gosh. I'll keep them in my prayers. Poor babies 😔
 
theleastofthese said:
I said we can most certainly stop it from happening and offered many solutions.
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Never gonna stop unfortunately, just like all the other terrible things humans do.
theleastofthese said:
I also said that if he truly loved women and cared about their well-being, he would discourage this behavior instead of attempting to put a band-aid on a deeper-rooted problem.
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100% agree here
theleastofthese said:
I can only form my opinion from the perspective of a woman. I have to ask, was I too harsh on his stance?
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Absolutely not too harsh. I'd be more harsh but I've been known to be a bit of a jerk sometimes 😬
 
steve said:
Your sense of humor is just as warped as the rest of ours. 😜😁
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Ohhhh you have no idea buddy... A LOT of my friends are retired military or worse...
 
theleastofthese said:
What blows my mind is that they want to participate in casually sleeping with prostitutes, yet I don't see these men lining up to take these women into their homes and offer them a better life.
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I wouldn’t stick my d anywhere near a prostitute. I don’t know why any man would. As a God fearing Bible believing man I want pure women to make wives, or as close to it as possible if they’ve made mistakes.

What man would want a piece of that is beyond me.
 
NBTX11 said:
I wouldn’t stick my d anywhere near a prostitute. I don’t know why any man would. As a God fearing Bible believing man I want pure women to make wives, or as close to it as possible if they’ve made mistakes.

What man would want a piece of that is beyond me.
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Think about it a little more. As I understand it, most clients of prostitutes are married. There's a reason for that. In the world today, if you want casual sex, it's possible to get it without paying. And single men who want sex take advantage of that. So why would married men choose prostitutes instead?

Imagine you're a married man who loves his wife and values his marriage, but is not sexually satisfied by her for whatever reason. Maybe she's unwilling as frequently as your needs, or she has physical problems, or whatever. You have a near irresistible urge for more sex. But you cannot do anything that would risk harming your marriage - and polygamy isn't an option (you don't know it is, your wife certainly doesn't, and there isn't a prospect anyway). You can't just pick up random women in bars, it's impractical (wife would wonder why you were always out on a Saturday night for instance), and word would likely get back to her eventually, destroying your marriage. You need a way to satisfy your needs, that can remain secret from your wife in order to preserve your marriage. What are your options? Porn and prostitutes. The major advantages of a prostitute are that her time is flexible (you can hire her whenever you can make a plausible excuse to be away from home), and you know that she will keep perfect secrecy about it.

Prostitution is the promiscuity of choice for men who love their wives.
 
While from the woman's perspective, if she's already a slut who is desensitised to the idea of sleeping with different men every night, why not get some cash out of them? A woman who is looking at it this way, although it is a depraved way to think, likely does not actually see this as degrading. It's basically what she'd have been doing anyway, just more profitable.
 
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