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Link to great essay debunking recent popular articles attempting to assert that ‘science’ has ‘proven’ that trauma in one generation can manifest itself several generations down the line through genetic mechanisms – or even that psychological effects can be transmitted genetically from one generation to the next.

Evidence of very minor coding continuations is light years away from demonstrating that even one complex human behavior could be explained by what amounts to generational coincidences.

https://www.razibkhan.com/p/you-cant-take-it-with-you-straight
 
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Keith Martin said:
The Mormons wanted Statehood and all that entails.
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The Mormons settled for statehood. They originally set out to build a nation. Revisionist LDS call it Deseret but a few are honest and admit the idea was to establish an independent country with the capitol in SLC and a seaport in San Diego.
 
A cautionary warning to men from a decade and a half ago (only more true today) in regard to disincentives in place for men to get married.

And we wonder why men are increasingly unwilling to commit to relationships when 80% of marriage will result in potential decades-long financial servitude on top of his children being stolen and turned against him.

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Don't miss the opportunity to view the Deep Truth in the embedded Chris Rock video.
 
“Sometimes men need to settle things like men”
 
Overall, an excellent interview of Andrew Tate by Candace Owens, and I’m providing links to both an 8-minute sampler and the full 3-hour interview.

As you hear them discuss marriage – and notice that Ms. Owens becomes evangelistic about the supposed imperative of Mr. Tate getting married in the next 5 years, and further notice that, when he says, “OK, I get 4 wives under Islam,” Owens insists that he has to restrict himself to singular monogamy rather than being polygynous – recognize that while Candace Owens may be a conservative, she is most certainly a feminist conservative – and perhaps most accurately labeled a conservative feminist. She has moved in the direction of recognizing how patriarchy blesses women but remains wedded to the gynocentric system currently in place, a system that allows women to be ignorant of the degree to which they are dependent on men rather than vice versa.

https://rumble.com/v33usep-candace-owens-x-andrew-tate-the-10-minute-interview.html

https://rumble.com/v33669c-candace-owens-x-andrew-tate-the-interview.html



 
Keith Martin said:
Overall, an excellent interview of Andrew Tate by Candace Owens, and I’m providing links to both an 8-minute sampler and the full 3-hour interview.

As you hear them discuss marriage – and notice that Ms. Owens becomes evangelistic about the supposed imperative of Mr. Tate getting married in the next 5 years, and further notice that, when he says, “OK, I get 4 wives under Islam,” Owens insists that he has to restrict himself to singular monogamy rather than being polygynous – recognize that while Candace Owens may be a conservative, she is most certainly a feminist conservative – and perhaps most accurately labeled a conservative feminist. She has moved in the direction of recognizing how patriarchy blesses women but remains wedded to the gynocentric system currently in place, a system that allows women to be ignorant of the degree to which they are dependent on men rather than vice versa.

https://rumble.com/v33usep-candace-owens-x-andrew-tate-the-10-minute-interview.html

https://rumble.com/v33669c-candace-owens-x-andrew-tate-the-interview.html



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Women who cannot allow for poly are also having difficulty with being truly feminine. You can't be feminine without submitting to a masculine man. And the most masculine men will attract more than one woman.

What's sad is someone like Candace will be open to "dating" (having sex with) a man who "dates" (has sex with) multiple women. So long as they're casual encounters she's okay with it.

But mention the same guy marrying the same women he dates and Candace reveals her inner feminist.
 
frederick said:
Well said! And when that masculine man attracts more than one woman, those women seem to have a problem with the other women attracted to him. Go figure. :)
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I had to dwell on this and give it some thought before I responded.

To start, I have observed that some women encourage their husband to find a plural and in some respects it is a validation of their opinion of his masculinity.

In thinking further I believe there is a connection between the feelings of potential plurals and 'other women' when it comes to married men.

I know that I found my husband to be attractive because he was a proven husband and father. I've seen this with other plurals too.

So called other women who are attracted to married men share this in common with plurals except that sometimes they want to steal the proven man from his current wife and family. Some mistresses are also content to share the husband and in effect this makes them plurals.

At the root of it though it all comes back to the masculine man who attracts more than one woman. If as we see in society that such men are in short supply then it's logical that many women by default will find themselves considering a non-monogamous relationship even if they don't call it poly.
 
MeganC said:
To start, I have observed that some women encourage their husband to find a plural and in some respects it is a validation of their opinion of his masculinity.
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Absolutely. That his other woman admires, respects, and loves him was very validating. She seconds my high opinion of the man.
MeganC said:
At the root of it though it all comes back to the masculine man who attracts more than one woman. If as we see in society that such men are in short supply then it's logical that many women by default will find themselves considering a non-monogamous relationship even if they don't call it poly.
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The fact that many women will agree on what makes a top notch man means that, as statistics show, there are a fair number of women hoping to land the top 10 to 20% of the men. They may not be as practical or good at picking the "salt if the earth" kind of family man, but you are right in that many will be OK with not being his only. Sadly many will end up being his woman consecutively....few will ever accept him having concurrent women. So it ends up being their stupid monogamy ideal that ultimately results in them being replaced when a better new thing comes along.
 
Change is inevitable, but the point behind this article may just be that the essence of our current folly is the nearly insatiable need to record everything that happens to the point that reviewing the recordings takes up more time than actually living.

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Digital dark age.

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Joleneakamama said:
Absolutely. That his other woman admires, respects, and loves him was very validating. She seconds my high opinion of the man.

The fact that many women will agree on what makes a top notch man means that, as statistics show, there are a fair number of women hoping to land the top 10 to 20% of the men. They may not be as practical or good at picking the "salt if the earth" kind of family man, but you are right in that many will be OK with not being his only. Sadly many will end up being his woman consecutively....few will ever accept him having concurrent women. So it ends up being their stupid monogamy ideal that ultimately results in them being replaced when a better new thing comes along.
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Maybe a question for you and Megan and any other ladies here. What do you consider a top notch man? Pleasr be specific in all categories that would qualify a man to fit this category.
 
Children of God said:
Maybe a question for you and Megan and any other ladies here. What do you consider a top notch man? Pleasr be specific in all categories that would qualify a man to fit this category.
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That depends to a large degree on the values of the woman you ask. I think most agree that character is important. Most women want a man they can trust. To me that means he is honest and doesn't lie, it means to most that he doesn't cheat and run around behind your back. After honesty (so you can actually believe what else he says) a man that is responsible and has a work ethic is easier to respect then a man who has little mastery of himself and just indulges his lazy streak. A man that can do things and has skills. A man that values his wife and children may eventually have wives and more children.
Years ago the ladies here answered the question "Would you rather have a rich man, or a good man" and with no exceptions they all answered that a good (godly) man would be their choice. Such a man is likely to be blessed with enough as he lives in such a way that he stays on the blessing side of Deut. 28.

I feel very blessed to have married the most honest and straight forward man I ever met. As our family grew, God provided for our needs. We feel even further blessed by his new wife and her children.....and feel that there have been even more blessings and opportunities this past year.

That's my 1 1/2 cents worth.

I could talk about all the ways my dear husband sacrificed, and proved beyond any doubt that he loves his Father in heaven....and us. But this post would get way too long. :cool:
 
Children of God said:
What do you consider a top notch man?
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1. He puts God and his family ahead of himself and in all things.

Like around here we have a lot of 'cowboys' who drive $100k+ 4x4 pickups that have never hauled anything and the cowboy would poop himself if he ever really had to handle an angry cow. They are all about themselves. Meanwhile their family lives in a crappy rented home and they lack for things. LOTS of examples around here of what you don't want in a man.

2. See #1.
 
Children of God said:
Maybe a question for you and Megan and any other ladies here. What do you consider a top notch man? Pleasr be specific in all categories that would qualify a man to fit this category.
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The two main qualities I've always admired in my husband and that I don't see in most or many other men are honesty and uncompromising in his faith and understanding of God's Word.

Many would call him "honest to a fault," but while his dedication to the truth in all matters can make his life difficult at times, he is also tactful and kind. He will not lie, but he knows when and how to tell the truth.

He lives his faith and understanding to the best of his ability. He is not perfect, of course, yet I really cannot think of an instance of him being hypocritical. When his understanding matures, he puts it into practice. When he has been wrong, he makes it right. I don't think anyone could say of him that he doesn't "practice what he preaches."

These two qualities are a solid foundation for many other character and personality traits that I would say are more subjective. Some people are witty or clever, some are not. Some are poetic or romantic or realistic or imaginative. A foundation of honesty (I can always take him at his word) and dedication to God's Word and following Christ was crucial to me as a young woman and have only proven over the years to be the solid rocks that our marriage rests upon.
 
Children of God said:
Maybe a question for you and Megan and any other ladies here. What do you consider a top notch man? Pleasr be specific in all categories that would qualify a man to fit this category.
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You don't ask women what they want in man. Partner choosing is subconcious process.

There are many cases when women has shared her list of requirements, only to find man lacking them.

You notice what characteristics their men have.

If you want logic, start answering: What characteristics would man have which would enable their children to produce grandchildren?
 
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