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Great article, but at this moment in history, 2/3 of people are unaware of the Fed, and probably 95% are unaware of the need to abolish it and/or return to a metal standard.

My question is not, what would be better, but what, realistically, given what is real in real now time, can one do when the Fed is determined to entirely eliminate the use of paper and coin money by the end of next year. I already have enough gold and silver to sufficiently engage in certain types of transactions, but when physical fiat money is history, and I don't want every transaction tracked by central authorities, what am I going to use for complex barter (which is all money is, when it comes down to it)?

I'm not arguing against a return to constitutional dollars. I'd be all in favor of that, but we effectively abolished that a century ago by turning our monetary system over to a separate unelected board (The Federal Reserve). Anything on mises.org or anything else in the Austrian/Chicago school of economics is spot on, as far as I'm concerned, but neither Ron Paul nor any other Hayek disciples are in charge of our world at this moment, so I'm looking not for ideological purity but for what will work as the system continues to disintegrate.
 
Great article, but at this moment in history, 2/3 of people are unaware of the Fed, and probably 95% are unaware of the need to abolish it and/or return to a metal standard.

My question is not, what would be better, but what, realistically, given what is real in real now time, can one do when the Fed is determined to entirely eliminate the use of paper and coin money by the end of next year. I already have enough gold and silver to sufficiently engage in certain types of transactions, but when physical fiat money is history, and I don't want every transaction tracked by central authorities, what am I going to use for complex barter (which is all money is, when it comes down to it)?

I'm not arguing against a return to constitutional dollars. I'd be all in favor of that, but we effectively abolished that a century ago by turning our monetary system over to a separate unelected board (The Federal Reserve). Anything on mises.org or anything else in the Austrian/Chicago school of economics is spot on, as far as I'm concerned, but neither Ron Paul nor any other Hayek disciples are in charge of our world at this moment, so I'm looking not for ideological purity but for what will work as the system continues to disintegrate.

I assume you already have long term food storage, guns and ammo, medical supplies, hand tools, water filters, solar panels, batteries, radios, garden, seeds, fertilizer, yada yada right? If I lacked those, I would work on that (and I continue to anyway).

Connections with good people nearby are also important. We all need to work on that.

Those things don't directly answer our question either. They just helps with resilience and self sufficiency.
 
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He’s right, you know.
 
I assume you already have long term food storage, guns and ammo, medical supplies, hand tools, water filters, solar panels, batteries, radios, garden, seeds, fertilizer, yada yada right? If I lacked those, I would work on that (and I continue to anyway).

Connections with good people nearby are also important. We all need to work on that.

Those things don't directly answer our question either. They just helps with resilience and self sufficiency.
Well, the answers to what you've listed range from "As much as I consider necessary" to "Yes" to "Hell, yes!" But it does remind me that I still need a few 5-gallon plastic gasoline storage containers, ha ha. I'm entirely unwilling to let my life be entirely overtaken by prepping, but I'm pretty prepared as far as stuff is concerned. My question in this context remains, "Until Goldbacks are available in Texas or Georgia versions, what non-transaction-traceable form of currency exists the use of which will keep the central government entities from training their spotlights on me and my family, now that the feds have managed to partially sink their teeth into Bitcoin?

So far, the answer seems to be Butkus.
 
It's already the case that some useful items are much more readily available if one has crypto to exchange for them. This is certainly the case with beneficial psychoactive herbal medicines, but it's ramping up with firearms and will only increasingly become the case with them and ammunition.

Don't just buy any crypto, though. Most will be appropriated and taxed -- and perhaps even confiscated -- by the central-bank/central-governments consortiums if they get just a little bit further along the roads they're traversing. Buy Bitcoin (BTC and BCH) or maybe Ethereum. Most of the rest seriously risk becoming effectively worthless.

The main risk to Bitcoin is a system-wide failure of the internet, but the ruling class, according to Catherine Austin Fitts and others, has already seriously considered bringing down the internet and ultimately rejected the notion. If it goes down for good, an entirely different system would have to be set up to recreate the ability to trade it, but if it does go down, it will be worthless until such a system is deployed. Which could be never. However, what the ruling class learned was that it's entirely unfeasible for them to shut down the internet, because now far too much of what they depend on it dependent itself on the digital world. They won't mind if the world left over for the rest of us sucks big-time, but they don't want to personally have to return to the Stone Age.

These are times in which it's essential to do at least a moderate level of prepping, but some of that prepping isn't just gathering essentials, buying land and learning how to live on a subsistence basis -- it's also imperative to think enough outside of the box to prepare to be the kind of person who can not only navigate a significantly-altered world but who can become someone in a category that the ruling class doesn't consider entirely expendable. One avenue for this is to become an undamaged (and thus avoidant of the Poison Death Shot) survivor who is otherwise compliant, obedient and content with being a dependent underling. But the ruling class depends on a whole range of competencies in which they themselves don't want to have to engage. Plumbers, electricians, construction workers, firemen, policemen, etc. come to mind. But it won't be limited to just that if they get their way. Certain other types of constitutional toughness will be highly valued by our betters after they've managed to decrease the population by, say, 90%.

Being a survivor is a complex endeavor during complex times.
Obviously I don’t know how they work but how do you trade something worth $40,000?!?
 
Obviously I don’t know how they work but how do you trade something worth $40,000?!?
You don't have to trade a whole coin, and I certainly don't own a whole one!

You trade in increments.

And I'm no longer recommending it; I'm back to recommending metals, real estate and money in local banks.
 
You don't have to trade a whole coin, and I certainly don't own a whole one!

You trade in increments.

And I'm no longer recommending it; I'm back to recommending metals, real estate and money in local banks.
I should have realized that. It really is an impressive technology. I just worry about a society with no money, not that we really have money now.
 
Americans, here is good idea. Use 10th Amendment to restore gold and silver as money, st least in state level. I have heard there are some initiatives for this.

Both Indiana and Utah monetized gold and silver a few years ago. You can pay your bills to government with gold or silver and some people do it just to make sure the right to do so isn't forgotten.
 
I notice the website changed since this morning. Different!
 
I should have realized that. It really is an impressive technology. I just worry about a society with no money, not that we really have money now.
Actually, I think I may be guilty of being too reactive to discovering that Bitcoin isn't entirely untraceable. It's still not only a hedge against inflation but will be much more difficult to control than the cryptocurrencies being developed in partnerships between the Central Banks and the central governments. Today I ran across the following article that reminded me of the other reasons why I started investing in it. Not only do I have to remember that, if it gets to the point of the central governments confiscating or neutralizing Bitcoin, no other form of money or wealth outside of being in The Big Boys Club will probably be of any use to us, anyway.

This article hooked me particularly because it quoted Alan Watts (although they misspelled his name), one of my favorite modern philosophers:


THE MODERN SERFDOM MODEL AND THE BITCOIN ESCAPE HATCH​

Everything about society sets us up to become subservient to the pursuit of the mortgage — but bitcoin changes that.

Real estate ownership is the core aspiration driving the Modern Serfdom Model. Debt — and in particular, mortgages — is the mechanism that binds the serf to the system. Inflation covertly moves the finishing line further away each year. This is a game that’s impossible to win. The bad news is it’s getting even harder. But there are two pieces of good news. First, the model is close to its breaking point because home ownership is out of reach for almost all young people. Second, everyone, regardless of age, wealth or circumstances, has bitcoin as an escape hatch. On the system in which we indoctrinate people into this feudalism, Allan Watts said,
“...What we do is put the child into the corridor of this grade system with a kind of, “Come on kitty, kitty.” And you go onto kindergarten and that’s a great thing because when you finish that you get into first grade. Then, “Come on” first grade leads to second grade and so on. And then you get out of grade school and you got high school. It’s revving up, the thing is coming, then you’re going to go to college… Then you’ve got graduate school, and when you’re through with graduate school you go out to join the world. Then you get into some racket where you’re selling insurance. And they’ve got that quota to make, and you’re gonna make that. And all the time that thing is coming – It’s coming, it’s coming, that great thing. The success you’re working for. Then you wake up one day about 40 years old and you say, “My God, I’ve arrived. I’m there.” And you don’t feel very different from what you’ve always felt. Look at the people who live to retire; to put those savings away. And then when they’re 65 they don’t have any energy left. They’re more or less impotent. And they go and rot in some, old peoples, senior citizens community. Because we simply cheated ourselves the whole way down the line. If we thought of life by analogy with a journey, with a pilgrimage, which had a serious purpose at that end, and the thing was to get to that thing at that end. Success, or whatever it is, or maybe heaven after you’re dead. But we missed the point the whole way along. It was a musical thing, and you were supposed to sing or to dance while the music was being played.”

IT STARTS AT SCHOOL​

State school systems are where the Modern Serfdom Model begins. Children are taught to be obedient above all else. They learn to fear authority, not to question things or speak up, that society is controlled from the top down. Of course the consequences aren’t all bad — particularly if you can later harness discipline and self-control to your advantage. But most importantly as it relates to the Model, children are molded to pursue only one course: higher education and a career, while being obedient servants of the state. [remainder at: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/business/modern-serfdom-model-and-bitcoin-escape]

[I'll be posting this in The Great Obedience Test thread as well.]
 
More about why the money we use now is subject to being confiscated by fiat . . . toward the end the writer floats a few liberal tropes, and he has faith in Darwinian Evolutionary theory that I don't share, but otherwise this is an excellent analysis and is in no way dependent on his view that we evolved from knuckle-draggers:

Masters and Slaves of Money​

Robert Breedlove
Robert Breedlove
Jul 5, 2020·36 min read


Money is a tool for trading human time. Central banks, the modern-era masters of money, wield this tool as a weapon to steal time and inflict wealth inequality. History shows us that the corruption of monetary systems leads to moral decay, social collapse, and slavery. As the temptation to manipulate money has always proven to be too strong for mankind to resist, the only antidote for this poison is an incorruptible money — Bitcoin.

Counterfeiters are Slavemasters​

“Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave.” —Frederick Douglass
In ancient western Africa, aggry beads—small, decorative glass beads—were used as money for many centuries. Of uncertain origins, these beads were a means of wealth transfer between people in trade (as money) and across generations (as dowries or heirlooms). When European explorers appeared in Africa in the 16th century, it was quickly apparent to them that aggry beads were highly valued by African locals. Since glass-making technology in Africa was primitive at the time, aggry beads were difficult to produce and, therefore, reliably scarce relative to other goods—a monetary property which supported their market value.

Back in Europe, glass-making technology was more sophisticated; counterfeit beads virtually identical to aggry beads could be mass produced at a low cost. Seizing the economic opportunity, many crafty Europeans soon began arranging expeditions to western Africa, shipping in huge quantities of (indistinguishably counterfeit) aggry beads expertly fashioned in European glass-making facilities. This scheme was one of the first known large-scale money counterfeiting operations in the world. What followed this seemingly innocuous exportation of glass beads was a multi-decade plundering of African wealth, natural resources, and—ultimately—time.

As European ships arrived on African shores, many with hulls packed full of glass beads, locals readily traded their hard-earned assets for what they believed were precious aggry beads. Spanning the course of decades, this trading of real assets for counterfeit beads facilitated a surreptitious confiscation of African wealth by Europeans—a slow-motion criminal episode that crippled African society for centuries to come. Aggry beads would later become known as “slave beads”; as newly impoverished Africans became desperate, some were forced to sell themselves or others as slaves to their European usurpers. Slave beads—one of history’s many monetary systems weaponized by counterfeiters—became instrumental in the multi-century trans-Atlantic slave trade. [remainder at: https://breedlove22.medium.com/masters-and-slaves-of-money-255ecc93404f]
 
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And, if you think enslavement "can't happen here," don't forget about the message from Catherine Austin Fitts of Solari, which is that enslavement is the current point of The Great Obedience Test: Planet Lockdown can be found here:
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More about why the money we use now is subject to being confiscated by fiat . . .

Masters and Slaves of Money​

Robert Breedlove
Robert Breedlove
Jul 5, 2020·36 min read


Money is a tool for trading human time. Central banks, the modern-era masters of money, wield this tool as a weapon to steal time and inflict wealth inequality. History shows us that the corruption of monetary systems leads to moral decay, social collapse, and slavery. As the temptation to manipulate money has always proven to be too strong for mankind to resist, the only antidote for this poison is an incorruptible money — Bitcoin.

Counterfeiters are Slavemasters​


In ancient western Africa, aggry beads—small, decorative glass beads—were used as money for many centuries. Of uncertain origins, these beads were a means of wealth transfer between people in trade (as money) and across generations (as dowries or heirlooms). When European explorers appeared in Africa in the 16th century, it was quickly apparent to them that aggry beads were highly valued by African locals. Since glass-making technology in Africa was primitive at the time, aggry beads were difficult to produce and, therefore, reliably scarce relative to other goods—a monetary property which supported their market value.

Back in Europe, glass-making technology was more sophisticated; counterfeit beads virtually identical to aggry beads could be mass produced at a low cost. Seizing the economic opportunity, many crafty Europeans soon began arranging expeditions to western Africa, shipping in huge quantities of (indistinguishably counterfeit) aggry beads expertly fashioned in European glass-making facilities. This scheme was one of the first known large-scale money counterfeiting operations in the world. What followed this seemingly innocuous exportation of glass beads was a multi-decade plundering of African wealth, natural resources, and—ultimately—time.

As European ships arrived on African shores, many with hulls packed full of glass beads, locals readily traded their hard-earned assets for what they believed were precious aggry beads. Spanning the course of decades, this trading of real assets for counterfeit beads facilitated a surreptitious confiscation of African wealth by Europeans—a slow-motion criminal episode that crippled African society for centuries to come. Aggry beads would later become known as “slave beads”; as newly impoverished Africans became desperate, some were forced to sell themselves or others as slaves to their European usurpers. Slave beads—one of history’s many monetary systems weaponized by counterfeiters—became instrumental in the multi-century trans-Atlantic slave trade. [remainder at: https://breedlove22.medium.com/masters-and-slaves-of-money-255ecc93404f]
Wow
 
From one of my favorite legal heroes, about my cousin's mayor back when I lived in Alaska . . .

Palin v. NYT: New Evidence Suggests the New York Times Ignored Internal Objections to Palin Editorial​


We have previously discussed the lawsuit of former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) against the New York Times, a lawsuit that could have far reaching implications for defamation law in the United States. The trial began with the introduction of evidence that the New York Times editorial board ignored internal objections to publishing the 2017 column linking Palin to the 2011 shooting in Tucson, Arizona in which then-U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz was seriously injured.
The trial concerns an editorial by the New York Times where it sought to paint Palin and other Republicans as inciting [remainder at: https://jonathanturley.org/2022/02/...nored-internal-objections-to-palin-editorial/]
 
Great article, but at this moment in history, 2/3 of people are unaware of the Fed, and probably 95% are unaware of the need to abolish it and/or return to a metal standard. My question is not, what would be better, but what, realistically, given what is real in real now time, can one do when the Fed is determined to entirely eliminate the use of paper and coin money by the end of next year. I already have enough gold and silver to sufficiently engage in certain types of transactions, but when physical fiat money is history, and I don't want every transaction tracked by central authorities, what am I going to use for complex barter (which is all money is, when it comes down to it)? I'm not arguing against a return to constitutional dollars. I'd be all in favor of that, but we effectively abolished that a century ago by turning our monetary system over to a separate unelected board (The Federal Reserve). Anything on mises.org or anything else in the Austrian/Chicago school of economics is spot on, as far as I'm concerned, but neither Ron Paul nor any other Hayek disciples are in charge of our world at this moment, so I'm looking not for ideological purity but for what will work as the system continues to disintegrate.
Oh sweet I can finally respond lol. For some reason with the change here it wouldn’t let me write.

I think more people may be open to pm for transactions than you think. I sometimes will joke with the cashier or shop owner at various stores if they want payment in cash or silver. I have been pleasantly surprised with the number of times the response has been something along the lines of, um actually yeah we would take silver if someone wants to pay with silver.
 
Oh sweet I can finally respond lol. For some reason with the change here it wouldn’t let me write.
Sorry about that! There was a hiccup with a script that applies user groups to people, which removed permissions from a bunch of people who should have had them. It should be resolved now, but if anyone is having problems please let me know in whatever way you are able to contact me (samuel@biblicalfamilies.org if all else fails).
 
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