Exactlyit’s their adherence to known scripture that gives them relevance,
Exactlyit’s their adherence to known scripture that gives them relevance,
Sexual immorality is nothing new; adultery, fornication, incest, it's all recorded in the Bible. I suggest you read, e.g. Paul's first epistle to the Corinthians and note the issues he confronts in chapters 5 and 6. The Corinthian church knew about and accommodated incestuous immorality. See also 1 Thessalonians 4:3-6 where Paul again targets morality.Well while corruption is not new, I don't recall reading about tranny and gay accepting churches in Paul's day that were involved in diddling kids. And for all the errors the early church entered we've far exceeded them in the embrace of those and addition of far more.
Precisely, but that applies to all writings other than Scripture. Jesus prayed saying, "Your word is truth." If we stick with the truth, we'll avoid a great deal of untruth.The age of christian writings gives little weight to their authority,
God addressed homosexuality and effeminate men In Paul’s writings and instructed the church not to even eat with sexually immoral people which would include those two areas, among others. It seems to be something the church has had to deal with before. So there is nothing new, it’s just different things tend to be the dominant problem during any given period of time.Well while corruption is not new, I don't recall reading about tranny and gay accepting churches in Paul's day that were involved in diddling kids. And for all the errors the early church entered we've far exceeded them in the embrace of those and addition of far more.
How many Christians have read a modern published 'Christian' book? Now how many have read the Apocrypha, a collection of ancient Christian writings which used to be included in our Bibles? We all know the approximate answers. And that is a problem.
I don't think that's a major question. There are a lot of early church writings, many of which are very valuable. For instance, the First Epistle of Clement to the Corinthians is an excellent followup to Paul's letters to them years earlier. Paul's are in the New Testament, Clement's is not, but that doesn't mean it has no value. However, if we had a New Testament that was the size of an encyclopaedia few people would ever read it.So then the key question is why this didn't make it into what we hold today, to be the canon of Scripture. The answer to that question, has everything to do with whether we should take these teachings seriously.
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Totally agree. Dispute on authorship was often a sticking point. It may have been rejected because there was no direct link to a specific apostle. Overall, good stuff. Will report more if my thoughts when I read more.But do note that the reason may not be that there is anything specifically wrong with it's teachings. It is nothing more than the church wasn't in universal agreement. It wasn't seen as part of the essential minimum. Or that it had fallen from popularity. Apparently it was very popular in the 2nd century.
Because Scripture is what is read in church.So then the key question is why this didn't make it into what we hold today, to be the canon of Scripture. The answer to that question, has everything to do with whether we should take these teachings seriously.
What do you mean? It is well understood to be very early, and most scholars believe it is first century, for good reason as its use is soundly documented:Honestly, apart from some questionable modernized translation, it actually sounds like it was written hundreds of years after the original twelve.
Traces of the use of this text, and the high regard it enjoyed, are widespread in the literature of the second and third centuries especially in Syria and Egypt. It was used by the compilator of the Didascalia (C 2/3rd) and the Liber Graduun (C 3/4th), as well as being absorbed in toto by the Apostolic Constitutions (C c. 3/4th, abbreviated as Ca) and partially by various Egyptian and Ethiopian Church Orders, after which it ceased to circulate independently. Athanasius describes it as 'appointed by the Fathers to be read by those who newly join us, and who wish for instruction in the word of goodness' [Festal Letter 39:7]. Hence a date for the Didache in its present form later than the second century must be considered unlikely, and a date before the end of the first century probable.
The term apostle is applied by St. Paul not only to the Twelve, but also to himself, to Barnabas, to his kinsmen, Andronicus and Junias, who had been converted before him, and to a class of preachers of the first rank. But apostles must have "seen the Lord" and have received a special call. There is no instance in Holy Scripture or in early literature of the existence of an order called apostles later than the Apostolic age. We have no right to assume a second-century order of apostles, who had not seen Christ in the flesh, for the sake of bolstering up a preconceived notion of the date of the Didache. Since in that work the visit of an apostle or of a pretended apostle is contemplated as a not improbable event, we cannot place the book later than about 80. The limit, would seem to be from 65 to 80.
Honestly, apart from some questionable modernized translation, it actually sounds like it was written hundreds of years after the original twelve...
Then it's the translation that sounds too trendy megachurch which may dominate the impression...What do you mean? It is well understood to be very early, and most scholars believe it is first century,
And the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch (Acts 11:26).even the term "Christian," which didn't come into vogue until much later.
There are four translations here. Pick your preference:Then it's the translation that sounds too trendy megachurch which may dominate the impression...
Was that after Acts said they called him 'Jesus', too?And the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch (Acts 11:26).
"Since it was discovered in a monastery in Constantinople and published by P. Bryennios in 1883, the Didache or Teaching of the Twelve Apostles has continued to be one of the most disputed of early Christian texts. It has been depicted by scholars as anything between the original of the Apostolic Decree (c. 50 AD) and a late archaising fiction of the early third century."There are four translations here. Pick your preference:
Really? That’s interesting.You can always find a scholar that says anything you like.