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The Los Angeles fires of January 2025

MeganC

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I am not posting a specific link here because there are so many.

What I am doing is praying for the 10,000+ families who have lost their homes. The thousands more who lost their businesses. The hundreds of thousands who have gone days without power or water and will go at least two more days before those services even start to be restored.

The death toll is likely to rise over the coming days but the numbers so far are blessedly few compared to the scope of the destruction and how fast the flames moved through the area.

Although I do not care for either Governor Newsom or Mayor Karen Bass I am not happy how they are being blamed for the consequences of decisions that were made years and even decades before they came into power. Yes, they need to own the consequences of their decisions such as cutting the fire department budget while squandering billions of dollars on a homeless problem they encouraged.

Looking at the terrain the first problem is that wooden homes had no business being built in a fire zone. The decision to build in those locations was made decades ago.

I have seen several homes in the news that survived and they were built of concrete and steel or else they were wrapped in fireproof materials.

The issue of fire hydrants running out of water is to me simple. The system was designed to help firefighters put out house fires or building fires. Designing and building a system capable of putting out a World War Two level city-wide firestorm would have been absurdly expensive and sensible people would have never approved of the expense to compensate for what would have seemed an unlikely possibility.

Arson is an issue and the people being arrested so far are either illegal aliens or mentally ill homeless people. Democrat politicians will neither address this aspect of the problem nor will they solve it.

Using the Lahaina, Hawaii fires as an example the truth is that these people in Los Angeles will not see their homes or businesses rebuilt for years to come. Environmental regulations will frustrate rebuilding efforts, the government will inevitably want to charge exorbitant amounts of money for inspections, fees, and building permits. To add to the damage the same government will demand property tax payments on time while so many people are financially and spiritually devastated.

Big corporations will undoubtedly be swooping in right now to buy up damaged or destroyed properties and this will add to the overall suffering.

One impact of this disaster is that it hit the very heart of the Democrat Party's fundraising sources. Liberal Hollywood has been hit hard by the policies of the people they paid to elect and they're already complaining about the failures of Democrat Party rule.

I expect this will lead to a short season of Republican Party successes which in California will be predictably squandered by the disorganized and feckless California Republican Party. Maybe President Trump can guide the CA GOP to success? I think he's more likely to buy Greenland and annex Canada in the next year.

Regardless, there will be a season of political consequences before it's back to corruption as usual in California.

I will pray for them and help where I can.
 
Although I do not care for either Governor Newsom or Mayor Karen Bass I am not happy how they are being blamed for the consequences of decisions that were made years and even decades before they came into power. Yes, they need to own the consequences of their decisions such as cutting the fire department budget while squandering billions of dollars on a homeless problem they encouraged.
Oh, it's on their head directly.

City with wooden buildings can't/won't be rebuilded just to reduce fire risk in normal times. So fire burning whole city is risk which must be taken.

And risks can be managed. And off course, this being California their priority was DEI, not real firefighting competence.

They got what they deserved in one way.
 
Looking at the terrain the first problem is that wooden homes had no business being built in a fire zone. The decision to build in those locations was made decades ago.
The problem is that it's also an earthquake zone, and wooden homes are the safest homes in an earthquake. Originally in New Zealand early homes were brick (because people had a British mindset and were remembering the Great Fire of London), then once the earthquake risk became apparent wood became the default material. You can't protect against everything.
 
Then no homes should have been built there. Hard thing to say but that's how it looks.
 
Then no homes should have been built there. Hard thing to say but that's how it looks.
No. They should done proper fire protection.

Let's start with obvious. Full hydrants and some empty space between building to block spreading. Did they do both? Off course not.

C'mon. ICE engines in cars are controlled fire. So, fire can be controlled. And managed.

This isn't act of nature or act of Lord where humanity has to take "spanking". It's caused by humans and their stupidity only.
 
Don't forget the 2028 LA Olympics. Maybe there'll be some New 15 Minute cities built on now-cheap land, and the State will be thrilled. Incompetence may well pay after all. It seems to have worked for Maui.

Before excusing all the leftist DEI incompetence, however, check THIS out, from Paul Joseph Watson:

 
Let's start with obvious. Full hydrants and some empty space between building to block spreading. Did they do both? Off course not.

I addressed this when I said that the fire hydrant system was sufficient to put out house and building fires.

But it was not sufficient to put out a WORLD WAR TWO LEVEL FIRESTORM.

It is irrational to expect that such a fire of wartime levels of destruction could be extinguished by even a very capable fire department.
 
I addressed this when I said that the fire hydrant system was sufficient to put out house and building fires.

But it was not sufficient to put out a WORLD WAR TWO LEVEL FIRESTORM.

It is irrational to expect that such a fire of wartime levels of destruction could be extinguished by even a very capable fire department.
They got wartime because hydrants were empty.

Did they get 15+ simultaneous fires? That should overwhelm one fire department. But several or one?

One they should be able to handle on their own. And if they got several, hold the line for 1/1.5 h till reinforcements from other departments come.
 
They got wartime because hydrants were empty.

Did they get 15+ simultaneous fires? That should overwhelm one fire department. But several or one?

One they should be able to handle on their own. And if they got several, hold the line for 1/1.5 h till reinforcements from other departments come.

There were 60mph to 100mph winds blowing the fires across several miles of terrain. Even if the entire fire department had deployed and even if they had all the water their fire hydrant system could manage it still would have been too much.
 
There were 60mph to 100mph winds blowing the fires across several miles of terrain. Even if the entire fire department had deployed and even if they had all the water their fire hydrant system could manage it still would have been too much.
Irrelevant in big picture.

Yes, was factor when firefighters were needed.

It's also well known how California's forests have higher combustability due to human mismagement. Same crap every year, only difference this time is scale (maybe) and whose houses were burning.

Fire prevention, so say the least, is massive opportunity for California.

And btw, California (standalone top 10 economy in world) vs Croatia. Same issue. Forest fires. It ain't money because Croatian coastal cities and towns don't burn during summer.
 
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I can only hope that this isn’t true, but California never ceases to astound.
 
Government vehicles are exempt from California smog laws.

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I can only hope that this isn’t true, but California never ceases to astound.



PORTLAND, Ore. (KATU) — KATU News has been made aware of a post on a social media site claiming that the 60 fire engines from Oregon would not be allowed in California to help battle the wildfires around Los Angeles due to emissions.

A spokesperson with CAL Fire says that is patently false. There are exceptions for emissions for out-of-state vehicles.

All Oregon equipment did stop in Sacramento for routine safety checks with CAL Fire.

“These inspections ensure all engines on an emergency scene are equipped, mechanically sound, and able to respond. This ensures our number one priority of a safe deployment for our firefighters,” the Oregon State Fire Marshal’s Office said.


CAL Fire tells KATU News the safety checks are related to mechanical operations such as brakes.

After passing the inspections, the teams arrived in Los Angeles and are on the fire lines now.

CAL Fire posted a video on their social media channels showing out-of-state equipment undergoing these safety checks.
 
The concern for Cal Fire is the number of volunteer fire departments responding. Even from within California. All of them are being required to do safety inspections because of past issues where firefighters have been injured because of poorly maintained vehicles.
 
The Creator sends the rain. They need the rain. They have no rain and fire hydrants aren’t working….

Pray that the righteous are protected but for the un-righteous and wicked - let it be a warning for the rest of the country and the world of what’s to come - if they don’t repent.

Which includes the state/churches; who are supposed to be set apart and Holy:


Perhaps they have a love for death as well.
 
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The concern for Cal Fire is the number of volunteer fire departments responding. Even from within California. All of them are being required to do safety inspections because of past issues where firefighters have been injured because of poorly maintained vehicles.
And Heaven Forbid their DEI girls should have to scale a Slopey Roof!
 
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