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The Orion Correlation Theory...

: ) actually I was about to bring it back around...so here goes nothing...

Jesus appeared in closed rooms and did many other things in His resurrected body. Kind of makes me wonder if we will be able to spend eternity exploring the infinite creation of our Lord. Think what that would be like...and eternity to explore an infinite creation...more than I can wrap my mind around...
 
yup,

questions like;
did our Creator stop creating?
did he make other 'adams' on other balls of rock and water?
maybe they never ate the forbiden fruit on their planet?

as john said somewhere ""speculating can be fun"
 
I enjoy animation and science fiction...I enjoy observing the imagination involved in making them...think of an infinite imagination...wow...
 
Oh yeah,
Some day I am going to walk through that cool silver watery membrane that shows up in The Abyss or Stargate...

Somehow I don't think that sucker is just a Fig Newton of someone's imagination, when you see the NASA photos of planes breaking the sound barrier.
 
" And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened." Luke 11:9-10

Basically, ask all the questions you desire and you shall be given the answer. God's creation is open-ended! There is no end! God does not hold back anything from us that our minds conjure up! There are NO stupid questions, just stupid answers!

John Whitten said:
Theorizing is fun but, when we get into astrology we are getting into the ancient Babylonian religion that has caused so many people to be deceived and kept from the light of God. It is one of the basic parts of most occult philosophies.
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"And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years" Gen. 1:14 However, like with everything some made a religion of it.

GeneKennedy said:
Now with that said I think this kind of talk is outside the Bible and is in all purposes un-biblical and ungodly. Christ is our focus and not the moon or mars and remember the warning that is in Romans 1:21-25
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There is nothing outside of God and EVERYTHING is inside of the Bible, including this subject. It's just that this particular subject is not brought to light in "organized religion".

Scarecrow said:
Just to clarify my position, I am interested in Science, Astronomy (not Astrology), and History. Interestingly enough most astronomers believe in God because they have studied His creation in the heavens and know that it wasn't an accident. I believe that all creation is in travail awaiting the restoration of man. What I find interesting (as in a curiosity) is the "ages" of the astronomical periods and what if any significance there may be to them. Will they continue when the new Earth and the new Heaven and the new Jerusalem are set in place?

To me it is all an interesting curiosity...I'm not off chasing stars and planets looking for signs or anything like that...I just find some of the scientific discoveries to be very interesting. How and why was the Sphinx carved out of one large rock? Why is the head disproportionate to the body? Who actually built the Pyramids and why, and why are they aligned the way they are?

Aliens? Well maybe if angels manifested themselves and their appearance was not understood. But I think there are better explanations.
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I definitely agree with you, science is God! I had to learn that the hard way! The Sphinx is pre-flood, that's why you see the erosion. Also, the Pyramids from my understanding were built by Enoch! Please don't throw a brick at me! Just a truth that has resonated with me. Yes, there are aliens, other life, that did not originate from planet Earth! I always give the example of "Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually." Heb. 7:1-3 Organized religion will have you think that this is Christ, but it clearly states, "made like unto the Son of God" and this was a being who had NO MOTHER, NO FATHER. Do you know anyone like that? Just think if you were enjoying a picnic in the park and all of a sudden a being who had NO MOTHER, NO FATHER walked up to you, what do you think that person would look like? An alien, maybe? Foreign, for sure, don't you thinK? The correct term for angels is ultra-terrestrial.

Keep seeking, keep knocking, keep studying, stay open-minded....God is not closed at all! Also, the "12" is not just a coincidence. I believe that each of the 12 disciple, were of the 12 tribes, each representing a zodiac sign! Did you see the report on the 13th zodiac sign? If not, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/1 ... 08567.html ! I believe this is a sign that we are definitely at the END my friend!

PolyDoc said:
The word translated as "replenish" in Genesis 1:28 is a primitive root meaning "to be full," "to fill," "to complete." (Definition taken from Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew definitions, available as an add-on module to the e-Sword package.) It does not mean "fill it again" as the word "replenish" in the King James translation implies.
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Thank you for that vocabulary lesson on replenish. The point that I am making by Gen. 1:28, is that there were other beings on this Earth before Adam was brought here! He was put here in so many words to uplift the genetic code. "And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him. And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden." Gen. 4:13-16 Who were the people that Cain was afraid of? All I'm saying is there were people here before Adam!
 
Scarecrow said:
...eternity to explore an infinite creation...
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I've often had the same thought. WOW! What a God we serve!


Nicola responded to my post about "replenish":
The point that I am making by Gen. 1:28, is that there were other beings on this Earth before Adam was brought here!
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No, there were not. God is not a God of death and destruction.

Romans 5:12 NKJV Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned--
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Death is the result of Adam's sin. Therefore there was no death before Adam, meaning that there was no created life before the six days of creation.

And Adam was not "brought here." He was created here, six days after the space-time-matter that makes up our universe was spoken into existence by God.
 
I should add to my last post this: God is the only non-created life that exists. He is eternally self-existent.
 
Steve said:
questions like;
did our Creator stop creating?
did he make other 'adams' on other balls of rock and water?
maybe they never ate the forbiden fruit on their planet?
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The first is a good question. The Bible says:
Genesis 2:2 KJV And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
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But what about miracles? Are some of them creative miracles, or do they all result from God using the existing "laws of nature" in ways we do not understand?

The second and third questions are answered by this:
Romans 8:21-22 NKJV because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. (22) For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now.
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If there were "other 'adams' on other balls of rock and water," they suffered the effects of "our" Adam's sin even if they did not eat the forbidden fruit themselves. "Birth pangs" is the result of sin (Genesis 3:16), and Paul said that the "whole creation" suffers from them. Would God be that unfair? Or is that really unfair?

I asked more questions than I answered! :D

IMHO, and this is no more than opinion, when God created the universe, He created an infinite number of planets on which man could live, all "stocked" with plant and animal life, waiting for us as an un-fallen race to "be fruitful, and multiply" and expand to planets other than Earth.

But Adam "blew" it. And it was all destroyed, either as the result of the curse in Genesis chapter 3 or the cosmic events that resulted in the Deluge of Genesis chapters 6-9, or a combination of the two.

But it will all be recreated at the end of the Millennial Reign. Does that possibly mean that we will still be told to "be fruitful, and multiply?" (That is speculation built on speculation, of course!)

As I said, this is just opinion. I have no Scripture to back it up, other than a possible "hint" here and there, like Romans 8:21-22. Not enough to build some doctrine on.

As John Whitten said, isn't speculation wonderful?
 
I very much enjoy reading all the different thoughts people have on this. What prompted the original question was the theory that there had been an intelligent people before Adam, but that they were not around anymore at the time of Adam's creation. My imagination being what it is wondered if there were different "ages" and our "generation" was simply a separate but distinct age, perhaps the last age of ages. Adam was the beginning of our age and we know there will be an end. I think it is an unlikely scenario, but as I said my imagination came out to play and if nothing else it is a nice distraction from reality if even only for a little while.
 
If there were "other 'adams' on other balls of rock and water," they suffered the effects of "our" Adam's sin even if they did not eat the forbidden fruit themselves. "Birth pangs" is the result of sin (Genesis 3:16), and Paul said that the "whole creation" suffers from them. Would God be that unfair? Or is that really unfair?
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actually, that is exactly the way that a wise old man explained aliens to me. that they know that Yeshua died for their sin also.
i was not going to go that deep, but since you went there.... :D ;)
 
Aliens?

Anybody wanna buy this bridge...?

Actually, my questions in my response to the other "adams" theory were more rhetorical than not, since I can find nothing in the Bible that would indicate other "adams" on other planets. Not even a hint of that. Not even if I read the LXX inside-out and skip every n letters while standing on my head... :lol:

There's actually more stuff in the Bible that would suggest my "theory" about God preparing other planets for mankind to expand to had Adam not sinned than for the other "adams" theory - and there is so little about my "theory" that I consider it to be almost idle speculation! (That's why I put "theory" inside " " when referring to it.)

Kind of like recess for theologians... :D (Thanks for that one, John!)
 
questions like;
did our Creator stop creating?
did he make other 'adams' on other balls of rock and water?
maybe they never ate the forbiden fruit on their planet?
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Too many people reading 'Out of the Silent Planet' still eh? :D Or perhaps not enough.

Nicola,
As to Ophiuchus, I'd heard of it as a zodiac sign under the name Serpantarius from an esoteric source years ago. When the article said the constellation Ophiuchus was the thirteenth sign I thought they didn't know about Serpentarius, but after I looked it up it seems to be another name for the same thing. While we're speculating do you have any guess as to why Milton wrote that ""Ophiuchus was huge in th' Arctick Sky" even though its an equatorial constellation? Its said he just made a mistake, but that would be an unusual mistake for him. Perhaps it has a double meaning?


Anyway, when while speculation is fun I'm entirely with PolyDoc on this topic. When we deal with things like this we are taking elements of other religions and worship of other gods and trying to meld it with the True God, that doesn't end well, and its enough reason not to do any more than write fiction on the topic (which, ironically, is my job right now).
 
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