All was quiet on this front for a few days for me, but we are back at it today.
The more I review the same arguments to be able to refute them, the more I see it, but I guess if this information is new to you or depending on the level of bias/monogamy-only filters, I can state this numerous times (what you've pointed out) and it comes back to Genesis 2:24 and Matthew 19 referencing Genesis 2:24 and how that's the ideal.
Even IF it's the ideal . . . that still doesn't mean it's a sin or not allowed under the New Covenant, which is what is being argued (that it's a sin).
And I keep reminding them, regardless of whether you personally like it or not, you need to figure out your answer to the question: is this Biblically allowed? Most other discussion is pointless until they can answer that question.
Agreed! I am continually trying to make this point.
Today the whole Lamech was a bad man/polygynist was brought up.
There is SO much that we read into the Bible that is not there or do so out habit because that's what we've been taught and heard all our lives.
Once you look past the notion that it was not the structure of having more than one wife which obviously caused the issue, you see it was the sins/actions/reactions etc. of those within that Marital/Familial structure.
Thanks for asking because I had been wondering the same!
And thanks for sharing!
I wouldn't think so! We have been trying to reconcile this "antinomian" mindset that until earlier in this thread we had never heard that term to describe coC beliefs.
The excerpt below is from a church of Christ congregation website, and after reading it has me wondering how someone can believe what is written below, but still think that Plural Marriage is outright forbidden in the New Testament.
Why is it OK to take some parts of Leviticus seriously but not all of it?
Question: I actually have a legit question for you, thank you for responding to my previous message by the way. Anyway here goes: What makes it OK to take some of Leviticus seriously but …
www.lavistachurchofchrist.org
". . . then you should also understand that God wrote both the Law of Moses and the Law of Christ. The Law of Moses is no longer in effect, being replaced by the Law of Christ. "He takes away the first that He may establish the second" (Hebrews 10:9). But we recognize that the Old Law had the same author and when it comes to matters of right and wrong, these things really don't change even though the law we are under has changed. For example, the New Testament is clear that lying is wrong (Revelation 21:8). But if I would like to present how God treated liars in the past or to get greater details about just what constitutes lying, I can turn to God's Old Law for illustrations. As Paul points out, "Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come" (I Corinthians 10:11). But notice that we first establish from Christ's law what is required of us and then we turn to Moses' Law for illumination.
There is precedence for doing so in the pages of the New Testament. When making various points, both Jesus and the Apostles often backed up their assertions by quoting what God had said before. As an example: "Therefore, putting away lying, "Let each one of you speak truth with his neighbor," for we are members of one another. "Be angry, and do not sin": do not let the sun go down on your wrath, nor give place to the devil" (Ephesians 4:25-27). Notice there are two quotes, one from Zechariah 8:16 and the other from Psalms 4:4. The quotations do not establish the law, but they serve to illustrate the consistency of God's expectations upon mankind.
Thus, we take all of the Bible seriously because we can learn much from the prior law as well as from our law. "For whatever things were written before were written for our learning, that we through the patience and comfort of the Scriptures might have hope" (Romans 15:4). For authority for today's practices, we go to the New Testament. To illustrate what is meant we can use the Old Testament."
This same website has various articles discussing how Scripturally, polygyny is a no no in the New Testament! It hurts the brain!
At the end of the day, we're not waiting for my parents permission or approval, but it would be nice for them to come to the understanding that this is Biblical. This is also a great time to continue to sharpen our knowledge and ability to discuss this and "defend" that we are standing on Scripture on this issue, and not just doing this because we are "curious" or other little jabs that have been made about why either of us would even consider this. We want to continue to honor and respect them through all this knowing that at some point they will have to choose whether they want to continue to be part of our lives, or separate from us (which would of course be very painful) if they believe we are sinning, if the time comes that the Lord does add another wife to our family.
