This.... ALLLLLL This. I see things playing out a bit more bleak but... It's what I've been telling my friends and family for the past decade, and preparing for this flavor of a thing to play out. I don't think it's a 100% certainty.. But I'm betting everything I have on the eventuality that something akin to it will be seen in my lifetime. I just pray I have 5-7 years left to prepare.
You don't have that much time; in the absence of
several miracles, the shit hitting the fan is coming much sooner than 2030 (personally, I'm hoping I have 5-7
months --
because those who are purposefully orchestrating events to destroy our cultures in order to be able to "build back better" in their own images will utilize SHTF events as part of the lead-up to completing the goals they have for 2030. Furthermore, much of that may get moved up to occur before our 2024 federal elections. We probably should be preparing for everything from EMPs, power grid collapse, unnecessary manufactured water shortages, purposeful poisoning, DEWs, economic collapse, elimination of paper money and institution of a credit-score-associated central bank digital currency, wholesale property confiscation, and even nuclear holocaust and/or attempts to grab all our firearms and ammunition.
I see two major things to prepare for:
1. The collapse of the cities and the outflow of refugees and criminals behind them. Prepare to fight off urban police who will try to use their badges and costumes to intimidate you into giving them what's yours. You may end up deputized by your own local law enforcement to fight off these people. Read this book for a study on police behavior in the absence of supervision:
https://www.amazon.com/Five-Days-Me...s=five+days+at+memorial&qid=1695167387&sr=8-1
2. In the aftermath of the collapse of the cities there will be a 30-60 day period of uncertainty. This is what you have to get through until some sort of order is created. I won't say that order will be
reestablished because we don't have such a thing to reestablish.
Stipulated. I've read several disaster-aftermath-survival books written by people who've witnessed full collapses around the world, and they all agreed that the paramount survival skill is having the ability to be on the move in a way that doesn't come into conflict with either groups of marauders or cobbled-together 'law enforcement.' Being armed is essential . . . but by itself only a temporary strategy if one is wedded to guarding one's castle.
I propose that unexpected events can occur and sometimes we should be giving the world a nudge in the direction we want it to go instead of just passively kvetching about how things are so bad.
Stipulated.
Weimar Germany is a useful parable here. The current West very much resembles the degeneracy of Weimar Germany from the absurd levels of inflation to the abhorrent levels of drug use, corruption, and sexual perversion. Weimar Germany in 1929 bore a stark resemblance to the USA of 2023.
And in Weimar they had an unexpected event in reaction to the degeneracy wrought by the lesbian feminists and their Marxist fellow travelers:
Oh, and I am not saying I expect something as bad as the Nazi regime to rise up in the West.
Nope, I expect something much worse.
Stipulated.
And I estimate that when the backlash comes there will either be a collapse of civilization or a drastic reorganization of it with an implementation of much more traditional values and practices.
Stipulated. Some countries -- like Russia -- are proactively doing this rather than follow our example or that of 20th century Germany.
I can anticipate the probability that people who like to use their own pronouns are going to be among the first to be purged. The loudest voices being always the first to perish in any revolution.
[Rome: The eunuchs were exterminated, the effeminate homosexuals were exterminated, the artists were exterminated, the musicians were exterminated.]
Stipulated. Useful idiots are always the first to be suppressed or exterminated once tyranny gets into full gear. Prior to WWII, the bureaucratic National Socialist state was predominantly populated by Jews (just as was the aristocracy of pre-Soviet Russia), and Berlin was the international centerpiece of flaming radical homosexuality. Who went to the camps?: Jews, gays and Gypsies. And the Jews were liberated before the gays or the Gypsies.
Now of course there's all sorts of hindsight analysis that says this or that about why Rome fell and the hubris and arrogance of it all is the inherent assumption that we won't make the same mistakes they did all while we're busy making the exact same mistakes they did.
To the extent that this is true --
stipulated -- but if you're lumping me in with those who think America isn't headed for the shitter, you're sorely mistaken. I pray that my suspicions are incorrect or at least that something better emerges in the aftermath of SHTF but am unwilling to have a Pollyanna attitude about it. However, what's going on is more Ruling Class Redux than Roman Redux. Many mistakes are being repeated, but from what I see the Bigger Problem isn't that mistakes are being repeated; it's that behaviors and outcomes labeled as 'mistakes' are, in actuality,
very purposeful efforts on the part of the ruling class to destroy what has been in order to very purposefully replace it. Elements of this were already present throughout Greek and Roman ascendancy, and to the extent that that was true it also couldn't legitimately be characterized as mistakes.
I read these things and to me this is not dry history. Nor is the Bible dry history to me.
Stipulated and wholeheartedly in agreement.
Can our societies fall? Yes they can. And they can do so suddenly.
Stipulated.
Abortion was considered settled law by the baby-killing vermin on the left and then it suddenly wasn't settled anymore. Praise Jesus!
Not stipulated. I've been an adult since before
Roe v Wade, and it has
never been settled law -- and may
never be settled law,
because of
Roe v Wade. Abortion, which I consider abhorrent, is actually settled law in numerous Western countries where advocates just worked for
legislative victories. In the U.S., they basically packed the Supreme Court and then hoodwinked America into temporarily accepting it by inventing non-existent Constitutional principles, which explains most of why the country has been embroiled about it ever since. And maybe that's a good thing, the fact that they poisoned the well, because it caused people to not just roll over about it they way they have so many other things, like assisted suicide and the Poison Death Shots.
Likewise, birth control can be undone too. Hopefully it will happen peacefully but more likely is there will be a river of blood before that happens. Hopefully a lot of things can happen peacefully but history tells us that meaningful events are rarely accomplished in peace.
Stipulated all, but I fail to see how what you've written here jibes with your assertion in the very next paragraph:
In any case, my body of evidence that things like birth control can suddenly be taken out of the equation comes from a good decade of reading, comprehending what I read, and applying what I have learned.
I join you in hoping that we could be witnesses to a peaceful
and sudden removal of birth control from the equation, but even you acknowledge that it would most likely take "a river of blood" before that would happen. Therefore, I can only assume that you haven't discovered any evidence that "birth control [will be suddenly]
taken out of the equation and instead are hinting that other 'things
like birth control' could suddenly
and unexpectedly be taken out of the equation. Given that you don't point to such evidence that birth control will be suddenly
and unexpectedly taken out, what other things do you consider potential candidates to fit that 'suddenly
and unexpectedly' bill? What you're describing are necessarily concomitant elements of surprise -- I mean, besides the list I provided above (EMPs, power grid collapse, unnecessary manufactured water shortages, purposeful poisoning, DEWs, economic collapse, elimination of paper money and institution of a credit-score-associated central bank digital currency, wholesale property confiscation, and even nuclear holocaust and/or attempts to grab all our firearms and ammunition), what other events should we also be prepared for that would additionally feature sudden and unexpected surprise (because
nothing in that list can now qualify as either unexpected or sudden)?
In reading The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire
Certainly a classic work containing much great scholarship and some tremendous insights. However, I'm not a huge fan of Gibbon, because on the whole he was basically a stenographer for the then-current mainstream-approved ruling class. Those volumes contain huge blind spots, and I assert they actually have
limited value because the same types of people are running the Western World (which just flowed out of the Greco-Roman one) now as those who were running things during Rome's Empire, so the fact that Edward Gibbons is so revered by them is more than enough evidence to me that it's unlikely to contain definitive scholarship.
Perhaps Gibbons's most egregious error that taints a great deal of what he asserts is his failure to recognize that the Roman Empire did
not just suddenly collapse. Not only that, it didn't even 'collapse' during the time period he asserts. Romanism was just borrowed Greekism, which is why it's more accurately referred to as Greco-Romanism. The Romans wimped out and even assimilated the Greek language and perpetuated the exact form of paganism with small editing mostly around name-changes for gods.
But the magic-trick accomplishment that outdoes the US political Party that had the Ku Klux Klan as its military wing persuading blacks that they were their saviors was essentially the perpetuation of Romanism through Constantine's establishment of the Roman Catholic Church. Gibbons declares Christianity the vanquisher of the Roman Empire, but the truth is that as Head Roman -- and soon-to-be Holy Roman Emperor -- Constantine essentially vanquished Christianity, creating a hodgepodge State-enforced Organized Religion that welded together 1/3 Christianity with 2/3 paganism, which continues to this day, perhaps now being 35% Christian/65% pagan, with the mainstream Protestants improving that to a 45% Christian/55% pagan ratio. There is no more effective enemy of the teachings of Christ and Paul than the Organized Religion that at various critical junctures purposefully mistranslated Scripture for the purpose of maintaining control of believers as if they were chattel property.
And when did
that end?
Or did it ever?
I suspect the latter is the better question.
The pagan temples were either made into churches or destroyed and their blocks and bricks used to build other things.
In three short years Rome went from its apogee in terms of reach and power to effectively ending as a political entity. In another generation the degenerates who were the embodiment of Roman power and corruption were exterminated.
There is no meaningful distinction between 'churches' and 'pagan temples.'
And the vast number of degenerates just went underground, keeping themselves somewhat invisible until they no longer had to, much like a character such as George Soros had to do for a time.
The ilk of the Roman degenerates just ended up being Inquisitionists and Executioners, Kings, Administrators, Bishops, Popes, Lords and Ladies.
A great
many societal ills flow downhill from ruling class men subjugating the bulk of other men -- and from those other men failing to become ungovernable. And I don't think there's much of anything sudden, unexpected or in any other way surprising about what we're likely staring at as our potential near futures.
