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Slain in the spirit

FollowingHim2

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What is this? What is its purpose? Is it biblical? Is it the Holy Spirit? Has it happened to you? Does it have anything to do with healing?

Looking for any and all opinions and answers.

Thanks.
 
ਮੇਰੇ ਕੋਲ ਇਸ ਦਾ ਜਵਾਬ ਦੇਣ ਲਈ ਸਮਾਂ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੈ, ਕਿਉਂਕਿ ਮੈਂ ਵੱਖੋ ਵੱਖਰੀਆਂ ਭਾਸ਼ਾਵਾਂ ਵਿਚ ਬੋਲਣ ਵਿਚ ਰੁੱਝਿਆ ਹੋਇਆ ਹਾਂ.
 
I accidentally did an image search instead of a translate search. What came up was a whole lot of pictures of one man and screenshots talking about erectile dysfunction, massage, and porn lol!

Google translate offers a much less concerning option!

Doesn't answer any of my questions though ;).
 
Early /Mid 95 saw a lot of this going around nz.
It was interesting to see how church responded
Some where big time into this, some not
I knew a guy that was a young leader at the time and heavily into the scene
Followed it and ended up in Australia at Hillsong
His journey ended badly and fell away for a time due to church politics.....
I talked to him recently and he was almost ashamed of what went on in the name of god in those times.
(His words)”In Hindsight”
“More people where turned off god than came to know him”
Can’t say I saw any lasting benefits from this time
Not for me at least
 
Early /Mid 95 saw a lot of this going around nz.
Very interesting to hear you say that precise date, because I had my first encounter with this in the summer of 94-95.

I'm deliberately not stating any opinion on this here yet because since Sarah's asking, and she already hears my thoughts from me, so I'm keen to let her get some independent input.
 
I have never experienced it, but I am sure that it is legitimate in some cases.
Judging the legitimacy of someone else’s experience is impossible and counterproductive, but I will say that if it’s a pattern in their life and you are not seeing obvious spiritual growth, it is extremely suspect. “Courtesy Drops” are a thing when it is expected.
Emotionalism is the whole reason that some people are attracted to religion.

But it can definitely be a time when Yah can do a work in someone’s heart whilst their head is quieted.
 
Because you didn't want to, never had the opportunity, or another reason?
Yah would probably answer that I am just too stubborn to allow that loss of control.
I wouldn’t argue with him.
 
I look back and wonder what was it all about?
People clucking like chickens and barking like dogs, Falling down like having a fit.
I’m sure god can use anything but if this was his primary vehicle its hard to see if it was him at the wheel.
The result looks more like doing wheelies in the car park than a drive to a particular destination.
If it was a delivery vehicle what was the package being delivered?
I always thought of god as being less like a Freight train and more like a gentle summer breeze
One of these things is noisy ,dirty ,needs vast amounts of energy to keep moving and can’t change direction easily.
The other is truly unstoppable
It’s life threatening to get in front of a freight train
I would gladly step out into a summer breeze. With my hat and sunscreen of course don’t forget the hat and sunscreen.
 
Yah is not safe, but He is good.

Borrowed from C. S. Lewis and modified slightly.
 
I have seen it quite a bit. It usually happens to women and never seems to bear any fruit. I agree with @steve that we never want to sit in the seat of the scoffer but this is another “manifestation of the Spirit” that usually has nothing to do with Him.
 
I grew up in an Assembly of God church in Orlando, the very church where Benny Hinn met his wife. The first time I saw being "slain in the Spirit" was when he came and preached for the first time at that church. There was no clucking like chickens or barking like dogs. I personnally can't imaging anyone thinking that stuff like that would be spirit breathed. My experience was people just falling back like a great wind had pushed them down. I know that many would say that it was all fake and that Benny Hinn is a fraud but I didn't feel anything but peace and awe during those services. I have never experienced it myself. I did have someone pray for me in a service many years ago where it was happening. The pastor's wife who was praying for me said she felt like I didn't have anything to "work out" with the Lord at that time and that he didn't need to "slay" me to work on/reveal something to me. Again, I didn't feel that anyone was acting or that the leadership had prepped people to fake it in this medium sized church. Many who were "slain in the spirit" that day said that God revealed things to them thru visions that were encouraging and challenging.

I may have never experienced this "act" of the Spirit but I have experienced thae healing power of God when I was in 6th grade. I had been born with a disfigured right foot. The Doctors tried to fix it but my foot was never really the way it should be. It bothered me more as I grew up and I ended up having to wear a plastic foot support in my shoe that helped my foot walk correctly. The summer after 6th grade my family went to an Assembly of God summer camp and there they had a healing service for the kids. I thought "what the heck, I can at least ask the Lord to fix my foot. If he decides not to that is okay but it would be great to wear sandels more than a few hours! (Hey, I lived in Florida where people lived in sandels year round and I was a fashion concience teenager!) So, I went forward and asked for prayer. The minister sat me down in a chair and had me hold out both my legs together and he held my ankles and prayed. He prayed and held my ankles for at least 5 mins, I think, it has been along time since then, and then told me to stay there until I felt that God was done. He then let go of my ankles and walked away to minister to someone else. The crazy thing was that I could still feel hands on my ankles holding them up and my legs never got tired as I sat there for at least another few minutes. I was listening to the music being played and praying. Then all of a sudden it was like I woke up and remembered that my Mom would be wondering where I was and that I should go. The feeling of the hands left me and I got up and met up with my Mom. I excitedly told her everything that had happened and then asked her if I should remove my insert? I had heard that people should show an act of faith when they recieved healing. She wisely said it was up to me. I smiled and removed it from my shoe and never wore it again, nor ever needed to wear it again.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)
 
I'm sorry to say this but I've never been convinced of this. I mean if God were really wanting to make a statement why not have people speak languages that they don't know but that many other people can recognize? I mean like have me speak French or Chinese?

Just myself, all I hear is gibberish when people claim to speak in tongues.
 
Just myself, all I hear is gibberish when people claim to speak in tongues.
Most if them also ignore the instruction to only do so when there is an interpreter. Showing a lack of obedience like that aught to make anything else they are doing highly suspect.
 
Most if them also ignore the instruction to only do so when there is an interpreter. Showing a lack of obedience like that aught to make anything else they are doing highly suspect.
There is a difference between speaking in tongues in the assembly and ones private prayer tongue.
Speaking in tongues (bringing a message from Yah) always requires an interpretation.
 
I have more to write but I'm out today so will do a bigger post tonight. I just want to make the point that I am asking about being slain in the spirit, not speaking in tongues. While they can go together, they are very separate things.
 
So, here's my experience.

On Friday night, we all went as a family to what was advertised as a revival/healing event being held in the city. We took 5 of the children with us. Samuel, our 5 year old Noah, and I, all need healing for some permanent problems we have. I have a problem with my pelvis that I was told is incurable, and I figured lets give it a go. I, as always, have complete faith that God can heal me, and thought if there was someone there with the gift of healing from God then that was perfect.

The worship was amazing. The children and I had the time of our lives. The kids were up the front with me, dancing and waving ribbons and flags. I truly felt the Holy Spirit there.

After worship the guy leading it, Joseph, started calling people up by name or ailment and laying hands on them, having them fall to the ground being slain in the spirit, and cast demons out of people. Honestly, I'd never seen that before, it was pretty neat to watch.

Then Joseph started talking, telling his story and preaching etc. After a while he got people to stand up who were wanting to get close to God and become Christians and then told them to come up the front. After this there just seemed to be a line of people going up the front for prayer. At no time did anyone actually call people up for healing, but we figured that was what was happening. So up we went, Samuel, Noah, and I.

First, a helper woman took me up to Joseph to pray for me. He touched my forehead, then held my hand, mumbled something incoherent and distracted, then turned and walked off mid-sentance to go pray for someone else. I was confused, and left standing there on my own. After a while another woman came up to pray for me. She didn't ask me what I wanted.

I wanted healing. I wanted prayer for my pelvis. I did not want to be slain in the spirit. But, that was what happened. Only, the thing is, it wasn't anything like what I've read about. What it felt like, was kind of like when you go downhill on a rollercoaster, and you feel like your stomach has been left behind. That combined with being really lightheaded meant I couldn't stand and I dropped down onto my butt. While sitting there the woman (catcher) behind me asked if I was ok. I said yes, so they both walked off and left me. I then tried to stand but went woomph backwards onto my back. I lay there for a while, just staring at the ceiling, and asking God to heal me. The moment I realised I could get up, I did, and knew immediately I wasn't healed. Which was understandable, since no prayer for healing had occurred except for my own.

My priority then was getting prayer for Noah. We waited for a while but everyone was busy. Eventually Joseph had wandered over our way, so I asked if he could pray for Noah, because he has bad anxiety. He did pray for him, but the music was so loud (it was loud the whole time to 'create atmosphere' I'm guessing) that I couldn't hear him. But since Noah was sitting on Samuel's knee, he did hear. As soon as Joseph wandered off, Samuel asked me why I'd said all that nonsense about Noah to him. After a confused exchange, we realised that Joseph had been completely making things up. He'd been praying for the stopping of bad dreams and problems sleeping amongst other things. This has never been a problem for Noah.

We then talked about leaving, but Samuel wanted me to have one last go at actually getting healing for myself. So, up I went again. Then the woman who had prayed for me earlier laughed and said "Can't get enough huh?" or something like that. I explained to her that I actually needed healing, which she seemed a bit hesitant about, but she put her hands on my hips and prayed one sentence. Then she said "Do you feel the heat?" I said no, I didn't. She then prayed one more sentence and asked again. Still no. She then asked if her hands were in the right spot, and we rearranged things a bit. Then she started praying and just pushing on me all the time. I think I took about 5 steps backwards before I gave in and let myself fall back into the catcher behind me and decided, once again, just to pray myself. The moment I was on the floor the two women just walked away and didn't look back. Just to be clear here, I was not slain in the spirit this time, I was very aware of what I was doing and just wanted the woman to stop trying to push me over all the time.

And yeah, I'm not healed. Not even a little bit.

So, what did I experience? What happened? I felt something for sure, but not what I expected. I've felt the power of the Holy Spirit, and this wasn't it. It did not feel powerful. I've felt the love of the Holy Spirit and this wasn't it. It didn't affect my emotions or thoughts or feelings about God in any way. I don't feel any closer to Him. He didn't speak to me. I certainly wasn't healed. So what was the point? And was it even God? And if it wasn't, then what the heck was it?!
Honestly, I'm not even sure that these people were focused on God, there seemed to more be a result they wanted rather than anything else. And yet, I saw people have demons cast out of them. Healing though, I can't confirm, it's hard to show instant results from the healing of osteoporosis and sleep apnea for example, which is what they said they were healing.
I am sure that I did not make it happen because I wanted it to. That was not why I was there, I was not seeking an experience with the Holy Spirit (except for healing, which I guess you could say is an experience, lol, but that's a bit different).

Something happened to me, and it didn't feel like God. That is what is concerning me.
 
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