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Why did God allow polygamy - side discussion

Asforme&myhouse said:
What’s your definition of “destroy”?
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To “utterly destroy your household” they would have to destroy your relationship with your first wife.
 
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steve said:
To “utterly destroy your household” they would have to destroy you relationship with your first wife.
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I could tell you my story, Steve, but I doubt you would believe me. My wife said that if she hadn’t seen it with her own eyes she wouldn’t have believed it. Let’s just say your life can be destroyed even if you and your first wife stand together. There are a good number of men in our prison system, as we speak, who are there for a crime they didn’t commit. How do you think they got there? Wrong place, wrong time? Nope, those are the rare cases, most of them are there because of false allegations. I came within a gnat’s rear end of becoming one of them.
 
Asforme&myhouse said:
I could tell you my story, Steve, but I doubt you would believe me. My wife said that if she hadn’t seen it with her own eyes she wouldn’t have believed it. Let’s just say your life can be destroyed even if you and your first wife stand together. There are a good number of men in our prison system, as we speak, who are there for a crime they didn’t commit. How do you think they got there? Wrong place, wrong time? Nope, those are the rare cases, most of them are there because of false allegations. I came within a gnat’s rear end of becoming one of them.
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I have spent time in jail unjustly because of the machinations of a woman.
 
rejoicinghandmaid said:
should that apple be thrown into the mix--regardless of how sweet, juicy, or red it looks.
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Ummm....can I get this apple’s phone number?!?! I’ll fix THAT!!! ;):p:D

In all seriousness, I couldn’t agree more. I’m blessed with two amazing, wonderful women, @Sonshine and @Sparkles. This journey has been crazy, difficult, and challenging enough as it is, and that’s with non-sociopathic women that love God and are learning to seek Him first and foremost. I’ll pass a thousand times on the sweet, juicy, red sociopath, no matter how sweet the juice appears to be. :) Whether it’s drama, problems, strife, contention, or utter destruction...no thanks. I’m sure some, all of that, or any combination thereof is a possibility with the wrong person being added to a family. After adding a second...all we’ve been through together (and it’s only been a year into this journey), the growth we’ve all experienced individually, as husband and wife(s), as “sister wives”, and together as a family, it makes me even more cautious adding someone that could possibly throw a wrench into what is becoming a well running machine (thanks to God). He’s done an amazing work in and through us, not going to let some sweet apple come along and spoil the whole cart, because I definitely see it as being a possibility with the right “wrong” person.

As for “fixing”, that’s absolutely true of me. :D As much as I have a heart for women, maybe even the sociopaths, my home and family isn’t the place to “fix” one of them. As @rejoicinghandmaid said, I’ve got an cart full of apples that have been entrusted to me by One MUCH greater and to whom they truly belong. Not taking a chancing in letting them spoil by introducing a bad apple to the bunch. Just my personal stance on that.

Anyhow, what started as a funny comment somehow turned into me typing too much...not sure if it fits into the theme of this thread, but...whatever. :p:D

Adios! :)
 
Asforme&myhouse said:
@steve have you ever heard of “family court”, CPS, restraining orders, “parenting plans”, the various and sundry “women helping women” organizations?
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If I may, the list you describe are attempts of the world to solve family relationship problems. They don't work, and if a man gets into a relationship that uses them he will fail. But it all boils down to choice. If a man makes the wrong choice, outside of God's will, he could very well end up in that situation. I think the point of this forum and the benefits of PM in general is an attempt to lead families away from this darkness into a better future.

I would also like to throw in here in regards to @rejoicinghandmaid comments about empowerment for women, I think there is Godly empowerment and there is worldly empowerment. I think everyone here knows the destruction the worldly kind can do.
 
Isaac said:
Ummm....can I get this apple’s phone number?!?! I’ll fix THAT!!! ;):p:D

In all seriousness, I couldn’t agree more. I’m blessed with two amazing, wonderful women, @Sonshine and @Sparkles. This journey has been crazy, difficult, and challenging enough as it is, and that’s with non-sociopathic women that love God and are learning to seek Him first and foremost. I’ll pass a thousand times on the sweet, juicy, red sociopath, no matter how sweet the juice appears to be. :) Whether it’s drama, problems, strife, contention, or utter destruction...no thanks. I’m sure some, all of that, or any combination thereof is a possibility with the wrong person being added to a family. After adding a second...all we’ve been through together (and it’s only been a year into this journey), the growth we’ve all experienced individually, as husband and wife(s), as “sister wives”, and together as a family, it makes me even more cautious adding someone that could possibly throw a wrench into what is becoming a well running machine (thanks to God). He’s done an amazing work in and through us, not going to let some sweet apple come along and spoil the whole cart, because I definitely see it as being a possibility with the right “wrong” person.

As for “fixing”, that’s absolutely true of me. :D As much as I have a heart for women, maybe even the sociopaths, my home and family isn’t the place to “fix” one of them. As @rejoicinghandmaid said, I’ve got an cart full of apples that have been entrusted to me by One MUCH greater and to whom they truly belong. Not taking a chancing in letting them spoil by introducing a bad apple to the bunch. Just my personal stance on that.

Anyhow, what started as a funny comment somehow turned into me typing too much...not sure if it fits into the theme of this thread, but...whatever. :p:D

Adios! :)
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Well said
 
Asforme&myhouse said:
Let’s just say your life can be destroyed even if you and your first wife stand together. There are a good number of men in our prison system, as we speak, who are there for a crime they didn’t commit.
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Visitation time, conjugal visits, lone wife working like crazy just to pay for food for your children (if CPS didn’t take them away) and the ever growing attorney bills.. sounds like utter destruction to me, despite the first wife sticking by his innocent side.
Yes, a second can devastate the whole family.
 
I think both @steve and @Asforme&myhouse both have sufficient experience to be completely correct in what they are saying, despite saying the opposite thing to each other. @steve's correct when children aren't involved, or when you're in a free country without CPS-style government organisations. @Asforme&myhouse is correct when children are involved in a socialist state. Very simple. Pick which applies to you.
 
I wish that I could say that I learned my lesson about getting pulled away from the point that I was trying to make......if only. :(
 
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