The truth has become popular?
You say it like it is a bad thing.
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You say it like it is a bad thing.
It's just not the thing that God criticized him for. God criticized him for listening to his wife instead of listening to him.
Listening to one's wife is fine, but crosses a line when it comes between the primary relationship of a man to his Maker.
We can’t learn two things from the situation?
Who knows, maybe what he “listened to” was:
“Wait a second, hon. Let’s hear him out.”
Did he listen to that and fail to step in?
Either which way, he failed to protect her whilst he also disobeyed.
Maybe we are splitting hairs here. The two things really almost seem to be different aspects of the same sin.
The specific thing that God said was that Adam listened to his wife instead of Him. That is the Issue. The proper order was subverted. Adam was supposed to follow God and lead his wife.
God didn't say "if you fail to lead your wife you will surely die". Failure to lead the wife was not the original sin.
Disobedience to God (which went together with failing to lead his wife) was.
Some really interesting points, thanks @steve for the videos.
This also brings to mind Genesis 21 10-12. Abraham followed the wishes of his wife, but did so in a righteous manner. He took it before the Lord, and the Lord said to concede to his wife in in the matter of the sending out of Hagar.
Abraham didn't follow the lead of his wife in the scenario, he was actually following headship of the Lord in doing what his wife asked.
This shows an essential difference between the Genesis 3 narrative and this one here in Genesis 21. Adam listen to his wife and did not lead as he should have in this matter. On the contrary, Abraham listens to his wife, but made a decision based on the Lord's bidding.
This is all further confirmation that we should absolutely listen to our wives , but headship/leadership structure must be maintained. Yahweh > Jesus > Man/Husband > Woman/Wife > Children.
This also brings to mind Genesis 21 10-12. Abraham followed the wishes of his wife, but did so in a righteous manner. He took it before the Lord, and the Lord said to concede to his wife in in the matter of the sending out of Hagar.
Abraham didn't follow the lead of his wife in the scenario, he was actually following headship of the Lord in doing what his wife asked.
This shows an essential difference between the Genesis 3 narrative and this one here in Genesis 21. Adam listen to his wife and did not lead as he should have in this matter. On the contrary, Abraham listens to his wife, but made a decision based on the Lord's bidding.
This is all further confirmation that we should absolutely listen to our wives , but headship/leadership structure must be maintained. Yahweh > Jesus > Man/Husband > Woman/Wife > Children.
This is a new concept to me. My view has always been that Adam failed to protect Eve and the Garden by allowing the Nachash in and near her to tempt her.
Been there! We're post- "Me Too." Women just say things and then everyone believes it. I'm pretty much always giving the man the benefit of the doubt.
One very famous "Me Too" was the writer Neil Gaiman. He was a writer I followed for a very long time when I was young. My first wife and I have the shared separate experiences of reading a lot of his work. We have been able to discuss it at great length. He's an sinful Luciferian worldly type, his work wouldn't appeal to me today.
When I was a miserable party animal poonhound in my teens and twenties - running away from an abusive family background at 15 - his work was perfect. The despair and broken hearts of his disaffected characters was just what appealed to me.
So back a few years ago he was Me-Tooed by some female fan of his. It got a huge amount of attention and he fell from "celebrated elite poet of our souls" to immediate social cancellation. Recently I read her entire testimony about it. It was retarded. She was forcing herself on him, literally dancing around his house naked for weeks and drinking his wine with his wife gone, and hot tubbing naked in his backyard. After weeks of this shit he approached her with a hard on in his own house and she freaked out on him and turned it into a social storm. That's HER account of it.
Interesting if that percentage is true. Living in the big cities (Seattle, Portland, Denver, and Boulder (if you want to call that one big)) I knew a ton of female trans but very few men. The women are just miserable and always trying to be aggressive but a lot of them are very meek quiet girls. They often are acting out of character and it isn't hard to see that maybe some of them have been treated badly and might be abuse codependents.
You should try going to Boulder and doing the free swing dance classes at the college there. A vast majority of the women want to learn the lead steps and it's kind of hard to find a partner who will be the follow. At least some of them are trying to learn both sides and will be your follow if you dance well enough.
I used to say that all the time in high school.
Many such cases. Gen 39 comes to mind.