Aussies is arguing from emotion and niceness, not truth, and that will always lead to untruth.
Sorry if we have come into conflict on this one rockfox.
Please understand that I do believe in the headship of the husband and I do believe that he has the right to correct his family and lead them in the right path. My problem with terms like "discipline" is that I believe that a man should run his household out of love not by means of fear.
In my life I have seen good women that have been (what their husbands called discipline) verbally abused, physically abused and in some cases to the point of being life threatening. When I was a boy I saw a man "disciplining " his wife in the front of their home, and as a lad I don't know if I would have survived what he did to her.
OK I get it, there I go again with what you call the scare tactics.
But for many that is their reality! And when you use terms like "discipline" that's the kind of events that come to mind for people that have suffered in their marriages. And they are all to common out there!
On this forum a common desire is to one day see polygamy recognized by the governments so that multiple marriages can be both registered and legally recognized. Am I right?
One of the biggest oppositions to that ever happening is the worlds perception of the abuse of women. Women being treated as second class citizens, women being forced into marriages and a women's rights being diminished. To instruct a wife and lead a wife is totally acceptable to everyone but when you start using terms like "disciplining" a wife, you just alienated the broader community.
OK so now you may be thinking that I am a feminist, But that is not the case by any means.
Is it not true that even in the work place, if a man does something he should not, he is not "disciplined" , rather he is talked to and helped to see the correct way to do things and if he won't listen after many attempts to correct his behavior he is let go. Like it or not that is the world we live in!
In this country, if you raise a hand to a child in public you risk child services removing that child from your care! OK again we can say that, this is not the scriptural position, but it is reality in the world we live in. The fact is that if you even start to sprout such viewpoints in public, child services will be banging on your door.
This forum is open to the public and a visitor may read any of these comments, so when someone starts to see the endorsement of "disciplining" a wife do they immediately think, what a great idea lets promote polygamy and all that is being presented as part of it, or are they repulsed.
So now you may think that I am watering down scripture, but ask yourself, what is the scriptural command for the punishment for the act of adultery? Is it not death to both the guilty parties? Yet today no Christian church would ever attempt such a thing.
I understand that when you speak of discipline you are not speaking about abuse, but to someone who has been abused that is all they here.
The fact is principles are set out in scripture, headship being one of them, but we also have to make it work in the world in which we live!
As I see it we and indeed this site are ambassadors for the rights of those who are in a poly marriage. And as such we should be encouraging others to consider the merits of the poly union, not presenting ideas that repel people.