You have a channel or a website as well?There is something major coming! Through a friend's research, I put together an interesting post regarding signs in the heavens...
The Alef, the Tav, Eclipses and the Exodus
Some signs are so blindingly obvious that they can’t be ignored. The sequence of eclipses over the US between 2017 and 2024 is one such sign. 14 Then God said, “Let there be lights …natsab.com
As to resources for basic Torah, I often point people to New2Torah youtube and Unlearn (Lex Meyer) on youtube... I don't send them to my own stuff because they trip, rather dramatically, over poly...
MarkC may be solid, I.ll have to check out his work...
-
Biblical Families is not a dating website. It is a forum to discuss issues relating to marriage and the Bible, and to offer guidance and support, not to find a wife. Click here for more information.
Best place to learn about and study The Torah?
- Thread starter LDremoved
- Start date
Thank you! I do already study The Bible though. My question stemmed from someone finding out that I attend a Latter Day Saints Church and suggesting that I "read The Torah because it's the original Bible" they also told me that it includes 5 books which are not in The Bible. They made it sounds as if it was something else entirely. This confused me, so I wanted to make sure there wasn't something i'm missing?LovesDogs, I just wanted to tell you I completely agree with Bartato. If you want to know more about any part of God's Word then you have to read it. All of His Word is interconnected. Most of the Church will tell you its boring and hard to read. That you only need to do a one verse devotional every day and your golden. But thats not true at all. Its actually very rewarding reading the Bible, and if you read it and apply it to your life it gets more and more exciting. But you have to be willing to change who you are too because it is also very convicting. There is no set amount of times that you can read the Bible and then your done doing that for the rest of your life, there is always something new to learn, something new to apply to your life and grow in. My suggestion is to not look to commentaries so much for your understanding of the Word but ask God for a love and hunger for His Word and read it! The Word says that the Holy Spirit will teach us all things. If you want to know His truth, God will teach it to you.
There are actually quite a few shows and weekly teachings.
My Torah teachings (going back years at this point) are up on my own website, www.markniwot.com. There are articles there as well.
I do other teachings and shows as well. "Come out of her, My people" has run for over a decade at Hebrew Nation Radio, and is carried on other stations as well. There's a daily news show, from a "Biblical worldview", and a two-hour weekly "Torah Teachers Round Table" (we just finished an in-depth study of Jeremiah/YermeYahu, now into Ezekiel) and a weekly news review, Drive Time Friday. All are on both live, and archived, at www.hebrewnationradio.com.
Sorry, LD - no wonder advice like that might sound confusing.
I try to be careful with the meaning of words. "THE Torah" usually is used to mean the FIRST five Books of the Bible, compiled or Written by Moses/Moshe; Genesis (aka "Bereshiet" in Hebrew) through Deuteronomy (aka Devarim in the original Hebrew.) I contend that to call them 'the Law' is also an error (often made to allow them to be dismissed without too much study).
Which is the OTHER meaning of the Hebrew word "torah". Most English Bibles usually translate the word as 'law' (it's used over 200 times) but a far better rendering is "instruction," or His teachings. There are other Hebrew words that mean 'law stuff' (like 'chuq', statutes, judgments, commandments, etc) - and remember that Yahushua's teachings OFTEN included parables, which are thus also 'torah'.
My own 'take' differs from much of 'xtianity' not only with respect to the instruction about marriage, but the more general, anti-Scriptural claim that 'the Law is done away with,' 'nailed to the cross', and similar heresy. (I use that term specifically because they make Him a "liar, and the Truth not in Him," since He said in Matthew 5:17-19 that He did NOT come to change the tiniest part of His instruction (torah) so long as "heaven and earth" still exist. They do, so He didn't...
There's more, obviously. But, for those who harbor doubts, I point them to Proverbs 28:9 --
"He who turns his ear from hearing torah, even his prayer is abomination. [And check a concordance; the word there may be translated as 'the Law', but the original word is torah.]
Ultimately, the thing which convinced me that Scripture in the original language WAS inspired, was understanding the consistency with His "instruction", as Written. Literally ALL of it! Which the "Torah Made Flesh" (Yahushua HaMeshiach, which means 'Salvation of Yah, the Messiah') taught 'with Authority" (Matthew 7:28-29) 'cause He Wrote it.
The first five books of the Bible, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy as Mark C mentioned is probably what was recommended to you. These five are sometimes called the Pentateuch, the books of Moses (written by Moses), the Law, the Torah, etc.
The Law of God is good, true, and holy, but never forget it is always Jesus Christ and only Jesus Christ that saves. He alone is the Way to the Father. Jesus and everything He accomplished is Good News, Gospel. If you are His, you have everything, and He will guide you into everything good. The Law, though exceedingly good, cannot rescue anyone, and cannot make the heart truly good.
I sometimes fear that the Torah focused guys may not be seeing Jesus as they ought. While the Law is good, Jesus Himself is The Eternal Life.
On the flip side, they might be concerned about me not being as serious about the Law as they think I should.
I don't think we can get off track by looking to Jesus, hoping and trusting Him. If we do that, He will direct us as we seek to do the will of God.
The Law of God is good, true, and holy, but never forget it is always Jesus Christ and only Jesus Christ that saves. He alone is the Way to the Father. Jesus and everything He accomplished is Good News, Gospel. If you are His, you have everything, and He will guide you into everything good. The Law, though exceedingly good, cannot rescue anyone, and cannot make the heart truly good.
I sometimes fear that the Torah focused guys may not be seeing Jesus as they ought. While the Law is good, Jesus Himself is The Eternal Life.
On the flip side, they might be concerned about me not being as serious about the Law as they think I should.
I don't think we can get off track by looking to Jesus, hoping and trusting Him. If we do that, He will direct us as we seek to do the will of God.
Mark C,
I don't know why, but for some reason that link is redirecting to a porn site.
Well……..*cough, cough*, that definitely is the work if the enemy.
Hilarious, while being extremely annoying.
It funny how concerned the non-Torah folk get about that question.
Do you have anything in particular that gives you that impression?
Mark, I just want to say that I am glad to see you back on the forum and involved. Thank you for your bold stand over the years!
Interesting, maybe not surprising nowadays....
Thanks.
But my mistake. Hebrew Nation RADIO podcasts and live shows are at:
www.HebrewNationONLINE.com
Which is why I'm careful about words.
A) As I mentioned, "law" is a misleading, therefore 'poor' rendering of the Hebrew Word 'torah'. Ultimately it's even demeaning to His Word. Among other failings, it CONFLATES the "law of man" (and what is sometimes translated "traditions of men" etc) with that of Yahuah. As He points out graphically in places like Mark 7, they are FAR from the same. (And, likewise, the Greek 'nomos' is misleading. Paul was critical of some nomos, but not other. Guess why? Same reason Yahushua called 'em "hypocrites"!)
B) Re-read II Corinthians 11:4. If even only a few DECADES after the Torah Made Flesh walked the earth, Paul was ALREADY seeing people preaching "another jesus whom we have NOT preached," how much more so after 17 centuries of revisionism?
This is why I am VERY careful to distinguish between a 'jesus' who "did away with [His OWN] 'law' and a Yahushua who said He would NEVER, so long as 'heaven and earth' (Matt. 5:17) STILL EXISTED. And note that the twisting of Acts 4:12 ['no other name'] -- which paraphrases Joel 2:32, which in turn REPLACED His Real Name (the 'tetragrammatron', YHVH, 'yod-heh-vav-heh' with the deceptive capital-LORD -- didn't even put the modified English word 'jesus' in there until the 1619 KJV timeframe. The Name that's really in there, in the Hebrew, as the angel told His parents to Name Him, Yahushua, sometimes contracted Y'shua or Yeshua, MEANS "Yah-saves". No wonder there's 'no other name.'
Try a simple word-substitution, to make the point:
"I sometimes fear that the Torah focused guys may not be seeing Jesus as they ought. While His instruction is good, 'The Salvation of Yah" Himself is The Eternal Life."
He should be. That's what the Hebrew word "echad" is about. (Deut. 6:4) And, as David noted, His instruction [as Written!] is 'perfect'. [Psalm 19:7. Note the importance of EACH Hebrew original word in that one, too!]
Thanks, Pete. (As you probably know, I've been kicked off for it, more than once...
)
PS> On the 'another jesus' front, that is a theme I have discussed a LOT recently, given how many bemoan the 'failure of THE Church' -- which, I suggest, denies Him, and that's why:
https://markniwot.com/?p=2450 Parsha "Chukat" most recently deals with this 'head-on'
https://markniwot.com/?p=2415 This year's Pesach [Passover] teaching - and why renaming the 'most important event in human history' after a pagan fertility goddess might not be a recipe for blessing
(A search in the archives on www.markniwot.com for 'another jesus' or 'II Cor' will return LOTS of links, particularly in parashot like "Re-eh" and "Nitzavim")
https://markniwot.com/?p=2450 Parsha "Chukat" most recently deals with this 'head-on'
https://markniwot.com/?p=2415 This year's Pesach [Passover] teaching - and why renaming the 'most important event in human history' after a pagan fertility goddess might not be a recipe for blessing
(A search in the archives on www.markniwot.com for 'another jesus' or 'II Cor' will return LOTS of links, particularly in parashot like "Re-eh" and "Nitzavim")
I know some prefer to call the Son of God Yashua, or Yeshua, rather than Jesus.
I have no problem with calling Him Yashua, but feel that Jesus is also acceptable since it is the English rendering of the Greek word Ἰησοῦς.
The Greek word Ἰησοῦς being in the text of the Bible surely indicates that it is an acceptable way to address the King.
It's not a crime to use 'Jesus,' Bartato. I myself am not a Torah Keeper, but @steve persuaded me that it was worthwhile to refer to Him as 'Yeshua' by simply stating that he just preferred to call the Son of Yah by the name that his mommy called him. Greek was the language of the ruling class, the Statists. Yeshua knew Hebrew, but what He spoke was Aramaic, and in Aramaic He was Yeshua.
@Mark C and I have had our tussles, but I am very much in agreement with him when it comes to this: words mean things, and names mean more than most words.
“I am observing men; as trees am I seeing them walking.” “I am observing men; as trees am I seeing them walking.” Mark 8:24
@Mark C is on the mark when he rants about the importance of recognizing that we're often just hypnotized zombies when we blithely repeat names, concepts, even theology that amounts to propaganda.
We are getting ready to start a time when a lot of people will not be able to handle the challenges to come. Looking at my life I think I now know why I have been through everything I have been through to prepare me for the coming challenges
Agreed. The Almighty prepares His servants to deal with challenging times, and difficult times are upon us.
Much betterInteresting, maybe not surprising nowadays....
Thanks.
But my mistake. Hebrew Nation RADIO podcasts and live shows are at:
www.HebrewNationONLINE.com
thanksI am actually starting to look at leaving the country moving out of the United States
This reminds me of: