We want to sing to Him who sits on the Throne, and unto the Lamb, not unto the choir. Maybe that's a difference.But you have to remember that he is singing to the choir and he's singing the only tune they want to hear.
We want to sing to Him who sits on the Throne, and unto the Lamb, not unto the choir. Maybe that's a difference.But you have to remember that he is singing to the choir and he's singing the only tune they want to hear.
“Cherry picking” sounds an awful lot like lying to me… especially coming from someone who claims to be a teacher of God’s holy word.Old Joel loves to cherry pick. Or maybe he forgot to study his Bible.
“But supporting tradition cannot possibly be a lie”“Cherry picking” sounds an awful lot like lying to me… especially coming from someone who claims to be a teacher of God’s holy word.
We all know he did a word search for into+bosom. He knows what God meant when He spoke to David through Nathan.
I think God already beat you to the punch in Prov 30:5-6.In the video that goes up today, I clearly call him a liar multiple times and prove his deceit.
I think a good set of tools might be useful if we could mass produce them and hand them out like gospel tracts. A simple blurb on a leaflet, for some people would be akin to the light bulb falling out of the sky, to borrow a scene from Trumen Show.But you have to remember that he is singing to the choir and he's singing the only tune they want to hear. The vast majority don't want to hear anything different, and that is especially the case with the women. However, if any of them came onto e.g. the Biblical Families forum and started to read the lyrics to this different song, they may very well be surprised and discover monogamy is not the only song in the biblical hymn-book.
Hershey PA area. Morgantown PA actually
Pastor Joel here would say that you are lying and that the only reason you think polygny is OK, is because you want more sex.
Is this in Conestoga Christian School? I used to live in Morgantown and my son went to preschool there (in Milwaukee now, long story). Anyway, I am so sorry you’re going through this. Praying that your wife will see the truth of the situation.
Oh, O.K. I think my X wife expressed the conclusion perhaps some may have. I'd never been married. I was 18. I was before and have always been plagued with way too much need for sex. Then I married this girl who said to me on our wedding night... "Oh, Please NO. I don't want us to think that the reason we got married was for sex." Frankly, if I had realized that attitude would carry on throughout our marriage I would have settled the issue that night by calling off the whole marriage. Oh how I wish I had. Because that expectation also went for every day of the rest of our lives together. So, here is one man that EXPECTS lots of sex if I ever am able to find wives. I am a good man. I treat women well. But I have this expectation that may be unpopular. Is that evil of me?
It's fun and self-satisfying to shoot down someone's stupid arguments with actual scripture - without changing anyone's mind. We can spend many hours doing so. Hence "diminishing returns".
What is far more difficult is actually engaging with them in a way that will change their minds.
Samuel and I have been meaning to show The Truman Show to the children. Last night Samuel says to me "I downloaded The Truman Show today for us to show the kids." Which totally confused me because I had downloaded it that afternoon also. What followed was a very strange and hilarious conversation where we tried to work out why on earth we would both download it on the same day.I think a good set of tools might be useful if we could mass produce them and hand them out like gospel tracts. A simple blurb on a leaflet, for some people would be akin to the light bulb falling out of the sky, to borrow a scene from Trumen Show.
EDIT: I also think women might be better to be the ones distributing material, in the same way that having women present the pro-life arguments, has been able to move the needle in society's attitudes towards abortion.
OK, but be aware of the anti-God/anti-religion propaganda hidden in the movie.Samuel and I have been meaning to show The Truman Show to the children. Last night Samuel says to me "I downloaded The Truman Show today for us to show the kids." Which totally confused me because I had downloaded it that afternoon also. What followed was a very strange and hilarious conversation where we tried to work out why on earth we would both download it on the same day.
This post. We both saw this post, on the same day, at the same time and it had the same result on both of us lol.
Well, you can always plant the seed. Remember the parable of the sower. It can apply to hearing the Word of God, but it can also apply to other ideas as well.As a political, science and history nerd...I gave up on changing minds a long time ago.
There are so many for whom ideas are functioning as an ersatz arm of their foundational beliefs that you can not shake them with any number of proofs and regularly you will simply receive a refusal to look at facts presented.
Cognitive dissonance doesn't
cut it...Cognitive refusal perhaps
Please give me the name of this pastor, and mailing address and I will send him a paper I wrote a few weeks ago on accepting poly as God's Truth. Or Not, if you don't want.BINGO!
From the IRBC website:
When & Where we meet
IRBC meets at Conestoga Christian School (2760 Main Street, Morgantown, PA 19543).
EDIT: @ModernPolygamy might be a good idea to put up a billboard out there! That would give the good pastor there a jolt!
Am I odd here? Sex was the reason I found two concubines, old women. Supposedly not interested at all. Both were voracious. Well, one is now - the other has gone to be with the Lord. I did not love them when we came together. But it was the sex which drew us together and I loved them both, now the one very, very much. There is a reason she cannot join me here or she would be in my home now. Because of my experience, I have found sex to bring about love and the more sex, the more love. The remaining concubine is a terribly obese woman. Someone I WOULD NEVER have chosen. But she was there. Now, I love this woman very much though I am still somewhat repelled because of her looks. How did Isaac come to love his wife? Through sex. They became one flesh and they became one of mind and spirit.In steps the prude briefly
No, your expectations are not off base.
My criticism, which I suspect you have already long since realized and read out to yourself, is that there should have been far more clear communication in advance. Yes, age and experience but the point being to learn lessons and to move forward with better practices.
So I would think that rather a lot of candid conversations should be had before one gets married to ensure that all parties really are on the same page with respect to expectations, responsibilities and goals etc to ensure there is a true match.
I have had opportunities throughout my search where if I were simply looking for another sex partner and nothing deeper, larger or more...I suppose loving, well matched as opposed to being simply utilitarian...if I had taken those opportunities, I could have a fist full of wives at this point and riding high on the hog so to speak from a carnal point of view.
More proof of concept for the paster come grifter that seems to believe that all plyg-life is about bouncing from bed to bed is absolute blather.
All I can suggest is copy/paste into the text field provided at this address:Please give me the name of this pastor, and mailing address and I will send him a paper I wrote a few weeks ago on accepting poly as God's Truth. Or Not, if you don't want.
On Windows use:I was re-reading the text of a very long article/paper I wrote on the subject of one man/one wife. Here are a couple of paragraphs. Whoops!!! I see I can't copy and paste. Oh well, just believe me - they are brilliant. "If it were not so I would have told you."