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Biblically dividing up your inheritance

At the risk of thread creep again, I will say this in response to the firstborn son, namely, Israel. If Yeshua is the one declaring that, then it makes perfect sense. He is the father.... OUR Father. He is in perfect unity with HIS Father but is NOT the same entity as his father....

If you begin looking at all of scriptures with this understanding, all the roles begin to make perfect sense...

Shalom...
Or as we say over here, "thread derailment". Yes it makes perfect sense if the preincarnate Christ is saying this.
 
Don't forget Ephraim and Manasseh by Yakov.
True for the purposes of inheritance, which is the topic of this thread, but not in terms of his birth parents giving up custody, which is I am sure what @MrB was referring to.
 
My wife came from overseas, so no dowry there; if anything, it has been a sinkhole where more money has gone there, but that is another story. You could say that I have paid a handsome bride price for her. A defiled virgin's father was paid a bride price Ex 22:16. Now for Jacob, that was seven years of service for each wife, and he didn't even want the first wife! For David, it was 100 Philistine foreskins (insert snarky remark here). Shechem was willing to get himself and his people circumcised, albeit under a ruse. Deut 22:29 indicates that the standard rate was 50 shekels of silver.
My comment could be about European marriage custom. I just remember reading something like that.
 
Job granted his daughters an inheritance alongside their brothers after God blessed him again. So there is precedent.
There's more to it. The "daughters of Zelophehad," whose father had no sons, were also given inheritance, and the rules laid out for that situation.

But the larger point was the continuation of the LAND within the tribes, and they were provided for in that way, too, by marriage.
 
This may need another thread, but what obligation is there to leave behind assets for each wife, and what means do you recommend doing so. Obviously, I want to take care of them, but what do you recommend for wives that are not “legal” (government issued license) wives.
 
This may need another thread, but what obligation is there to leave behind assets for each wife, and what means do you recommend doing so. Obviously, I want to take care of them, but what do you recommend for wives that are not “legal” (government issued license) wives.
The greatest asset you can leave your wives, is sons.

Daughters are great too but they move on to the family that they marry into. Sons will bear the burden of ensuring that their mothers are taken care of all the days of their lives.

Now, modern culture the way it is, sons may not do what they should so, give them sons and daughters and pray for the best outcome possible!
 
The greatest asset you can leave your wives, is sons.

Daughters are great too but they move on to the family that they marry into. Sons will bear the burden of ensuring that their mothers are taken care of all the days of their lives.

Now, modern culture the way it is, sons may not do what they should so, give them sons and daughters and pray for the best outcome possible!
My women can’t bear sons, or any children for that matter. They’re past child bearing age.
 
My women can’t bear sons, or any children for that matter. They’re past child bearing age.
I did not realize... I hope I did not offend.... The point I was making is still true but just not in this case.

For your own situation then, I would say to make provision as you are able. They have joined with you for who you are and what you represent. If you are well heeled then, they have little to fear. If you are not well heeled, then they knew that already and may face tougher times without you. I would guess that they would prefer that over not being with you now though...

Do what you can and make the best of it!
 
The greatest asset you can leave your wives, is sons.
Yet nearly 75% of women are caregivers for elderly parents while also making up more than half of the workforce. You're most likely going to be cared for by your wife or daughters in the future.
We have those. We have joint savings account which I fund for them. I was looking for other ideas
I apologize; the eye roll was intended for @Man_in_the_Middle

Is life insurance an option? My policy allows for a monthly payout option to the beneficiaries as well.
 
Yet nearly 75% of women are caregivers for elderly parents while also making up more than half of the workforce. You're most likely going to be cared for by your wife or daughters in the future.

I apologize; the eye roll was intended for @Man_in_the_Middle

Is life insurance an option? My policy allows for a monthly payout option to the beneficiaries as well.
Did you notice my closing line in that statement? Read it again....

Quote: "Now, modern culture the way it is, sons may not do what they should so, give them sons and daughters and pray for the best outcome possible! "

I know that modern culture does not end up with ideal situations, so I addressed the ideal and then the reality as well.
 
Did you notice my closing line in that statement? Read it again....

Quote: "Now, modern culture the way it is, sons may not do what they should so, give them sons and daughters and pray for the best outcome possible! "

I know that modern culture does not end up with ideal situations, so I addressed the ideal and then the reality as well.
I did but you continued on here-
The point I was making is still true but just not in this case

so I addressed the ideal and then the reality as well.
The ideal is still little benefit to most elderly family members being that the men who do actually provide care for their loved ones, outsource the care.
 
I did but you continued on here-



The ideal is still little benefit to most elderly family members being that the men who do actually provide care for their loved ones, outsource the care.
Yes, as men, we would normally outsource the care but still ensure that the care is provided. That does not mean that we would outsource our love and affection.....
 
Yes, as men, we would normally outsource the care but still ensure that the care is provided. That does not mean that we would outsource our love and affection.....
Women provide all of that without outsourcing care. Women support elderly family members more in all aspects. Even if having sons is "your" ideal, it's proven to not be the ideal in this particular situation.
 
I would probably put it into a marriage contract that daughters get equal treatment everything else would be unfair, in fact my family would probably throw me out of any inheritance if I attempted anything else, at least as much as they legally can. In the end the point is mute, in my case any inheritance laws would go according to German law, and even a US judge would apply German inheritance laws as per international regulation.

The difficult part is land. As per German law farm, forestry land cannot be split up (that was already an issue in the past) so the oldest child (used to be oldest son) inherits the land, however they are required by law to pay an appanage to the other siblings. Exactly how that would work is still being tweaked.


Yes, as men, we would normally outsource the care but still ensure that the care is provided. That does not mean that we would outsource our love and affection.....

For a lot of people it is more about their own conscience, and what is the minimum that they can do while still being able to look into the mirror. Outsourcing care of seniors (basically paying for live in care givers) is beyond what most people can shoulder.
 
Women provide all of that without outsourcing care. Women support elderly family members more in all aspects. Even if having sons is "your" ideal, it's proven to not be the ideal in this particular situation.
Your not making an argument against what I said. You have simply stated that the female gender provides the care. I never said anything contrary to that. What I did say was that the sons would (ideally) ensure that they received the care needed. The point I was making is that the daughters generally go with their husbands and are involved in their husbands family more than their own parents.

Is it the son's wives and still living at home daughters that end up providing the bulk of the care for his mother? Perhaps. Is that female care as you indicate? sure.
That is still resources from the son that are going to provide the care for his mother.

Sons "tend" to earn more money than daughters and so when money pressures arise, they should be able to provide more in that regard.

Anecdotally, perhaps none of this is correct. I am speaking in broad brush strokes about ideals.

I still contend that my final advice to him was good advice generally.

Quote: "give them sons and daughters and pray for the best outcome possible!" <--- argue against that! :)
 
For a lot of people it is more about their own conscience, and what is the minimum that they can do while still being able to look into the mirror. Outsourcing care of seniors (basically paying for live in care givers) is beyond what most people can shoulder.
I agree with your statement above. It saddens me greatly to see how seniors are discarded by so many families. This has been a concern of mine, my entire life. I essentially expected that some day, my (divorced) mother would live with me. Instead, she chose to live with a sister of mine and the rest of us provide support for her. Those that live close to her take turns with medical trips etc. Those of us that live far away, provide financial resources.
All of us interact with her on a frequent basis. Her health is declining and I doubt she will be with us for much longer...
Aging sucks...
 
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