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Michelle,
I will take that baby thing as a compliment seeing as I am in my 40's. Thanks for the intro. Polygamy is becoming interesting to people in all walks of life. And if your pastor was aware of your interest you would probably be counseled about it. My husband went to a Lutheran Seminary and he was very surprised when he learned that Luther was not against plural marriage.

Welcome to the board. We are glad you found us. You said that Big Love is where you first learned of this lifestyle. Most of us are at least familiar with the show, if not avid watchers. But I want to make sure that you realize we are not Mormon but Christian?

I am curious to know how old you are and where you are located. We have little pockets of people scattered throughout the country and it would be nice if you were close to someone who could answer some questions for you.

The quote button allows you to quote another person's post so that you can show it in your reply, so if someone said something in a post you wanted to respond to you could use that to show exactly what you are responding to. I haven't used it.

Sweet Lissa
 
Sweet Lissa,

I'm so glad that you responded. I didn't mean to get your name wrong twice. Yes, you are a baby if you're only in your 40s (which I'm finding out by everyone who has been posting saying 40s is not so old--I'm 40 too). I have lots of typos in my responses, because five days a week I have to always be so aware of the bulletin and screen presentations that it is nice to let my hair down and just type away...without correcting my mistakes.

I didn't realize that Christians were practicing polygamy until I visited this site. I thought is was strictly practiced by Mormons or non-Christian folk. I don't think that this lifestyle would work for me since it would be all about the sex for my husband, I do like visiting for the religious conversations. Unlike most Lutherans, I keep an open-mind and heart. I found out from this website that Luther wasn't against polygamy, but I don't know when our church changed it's position on the subject.

I guess if polygamy wasn't illegal and my husband was on the same religious playing ground--maybe! I live in Michigan.
 
Dear Lutherangirl,
My folks live in Michigan. And as for your hubby, Why am I not surprised? Anyway, just because you aren't poly and don't really wish to participate, is no reason not to stick around and learn. Many people believe in the validity of our lifestyle but never actually get into it. It is a truth and we all acknowledge it. That is what makes us different. But we have no requirement that you are polygamous or even that you want to be.

I understand completely about the typos. I type and do data entry for a living and there are times when it is so nice just to type away and not worry about it.

I am so glad you wrote back. BTW, certain other people on the board are questioning my name as sweetlissa anyway. LOL

Sweetlissa
 
Sweet Lissa,

LOL--about your name. I didn't mean to confuse anyone. I'm just a little silly that's all. What a small world that your folks live in Michigan. I know, right, about my husband and the sex thing. If nothing else he is very upfront and honest which is more than I can say for most men. If he would just get the Christian thing down, he would be more awesome than he already is!!!!!!

I do validate your lifestyle and wanted to join this site to support everyone's religious decision to do so. I mean why does the government feel the need to attack a "Biblical Families"? As if there isn't bigger fish to fry. I don't really understand how the government can get involved in a religious freedom?

Michelle
 
Hi Lutherangirl,
Sorry I am late in welcoming you but I have not made the time to visit here and get to know new ladies.. If you have been chatting with sweetlissa , you have been talking to one of my best friends and one awesome woman. We ladies need to visit with each other here online or in person if at all possible. It was great to finally meet lissa in November. I do answer email or pms so feel free. I look forward to chatting with you.
 
Rose,
It is so good to see your post again. I admit I haven't been much of a friend recently. Blame it on depression and too much stuff. School is going well, and work is high stress. I would love to talk some more. Give me a buzz sometime.

Sweet Lissa
 
Chaplain's Ross,

Thanks so much for the welcome! I'm really enjoying everyone's company. I look forward to having many good conversations. I have to admit that this is the first time I have ever emailed people other than family and friends. I don't know what it means, when you said email or 'pms'? I look forward to talking more with you. I just got back from a wonderful Ash Wednesday service and am soooo tired, so I'm signing out.

Again, thanks for the welcome and nice to meet you!

God's Blessings,

Michelle
 
PM's are private messages. You do a PM by pushing the PM button on a post from someone you want to talk to. That takes you to a special screen where you can write a message just like this one, but it goes to a private mailbox instead of to the public forum. This is how you might talk to someone about something more personal or exchange personal information if you want to give phone numbers and such. It is pretty cool. You can set it up so that it will email you when you have a private message so that you know to go to the webpage and look for it.

Sweet Lissa
 
Lissa,

Thanks again for the information about the PM. I feel like I'm back in school again asking silly questions. You sure are living up to your name "Sweet Lissa".

Anywho, have a great night!

Michelle
 
As it was said in school, the only dumb question is the one that isn't asked.

Take care and drop in anytime.

Sweet Lissa
 
Lissa,

I was wondering does your family attend church? I know that I read on one of the posts that is hard attending a church that doesn't accept poly families.

Michelle
 
Michelle,
Right now, we all attend separate churches. We were in the process of moving from Reno, NV to Dallas, TX and Randy got sent away on business for a year. So T is in Reno, I am in Texas and Randy is out of the country. Around this time next year we are all hoping to be united in one home in Texas. At that time, the plan is to create a home group that will grow into a local church that is poly friendly. We want the whole truth to be taught and we want balance. It will not be a requirement but every one who attends will know that Polygamy is part of God's truth.

Sweet Lissa
 
Lissa,

That must be difficult on you guys being separated. Is your former background Lutheran? You mentioned that you went to a ELCA church recently. Your new home group I'm sure will be successful.

Michelle
 
No, I don't have a Lutheran background, but hubby does. That is why we went to that church for a while. I was raised nothing religeous and my background is extremly fundamentalist. I became Pentacostal about 11 years ago. Hubby and Wife 1 are pentacostal.

Sweetlissa
 
Lissa,

What restrictions are there on your regilious beliefs regarding eating, drinking, smoking, or dress code?

Michelle
 
Our lives are constantly changing due to changing levels of understanding of the word. We dress modestly, but everyone has a different version of what modest means. For instance, some people believe that for a woman to be modest, she must be in a dress. We do not believe that. We wear our hair long but we do cut it and keep it styled. We do not think that head covering is necessary. We strive to always look good. For church we rarely, if ever wear pants. I have seen T wear slacks to church once, because we went on Saturday night without planning in advance for it so there was no time to go home and change.

We try to avoid pork products because we believe that if God made them "unclean" to begin with they probably aren't particularly healthy for us. We do all in moderation. We are all watching our weight so we try to be moderate in everything to achieve those goals too.

Smoking is something that we don't believe we should do. But we know that God talks to each of us at different times about different things.

We basically try to honor God in all that we do. If we are caught drinking smoking and raising cain, then it isn't God honoring. We try to live our lives as though Christ were walking beside us all the time. Because He is.

We try to remember the passage (1 Cor 6:12) "All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any."


Sweet Lissa
 
Sweet Lissa,

I agree the more I read Scripture I discover that maybe I need to change some things I'm doing. I thought about the head covering especially since I'm in and out of the chapel so much. I talked with my Pastor and he said that most of the traditions regarding women's dress had to do with cultural issues. I guess as far as eating goes the rules that were spelled out in Levitus I thought pretained mainly to the Jewish community. I looooovvve bacon, so giving up pork would be tough.

Once again, thanks for you kindness and great insight!

God's Blessings.
 
I have not found a substitute for bacon yet. I use turkey sausage because it is lower in fat and I like it just as well. But I haven't found a turkey bacon that is okay yet. Fortunately we don't really crave bacon and when we do, we indulge, in moderation. As far as dress goes, in biblical times, all wore robes, both men and women. The only ones that wore pants were the priests. They wore leggings for modesty because they climbed stairs to the altars and might expose their private areas to onlookers. So as far as dressing like a man or woman goes, it isn't about skirts v pants. My husband did a rather intense study and the end result of it was that he believes the reference was to a soldier dressing as a woman to shirk his soldier duties and a woman dressing as a soldier. I like looking like a woman, but I am no girly girl. T is a girly girl to the core. We are vastly different on the outside, but we have much in common in our hearts. We believe that our hair is our head covering. In the early days, when they were new Christians, our husband didn't believe in makeup and only approved dresses for T to wear. I am so glad his beliefs on this have changed. One thing we always want to do though, is to be learning about God and growing closer to him. The closer we get the clearer his word becomes.

Sweet Lissa
 
Sweet Lissa,

Once again, thank you for your insight. I don't think I have ever thought or heard an agreement about how everyone at that time wear robes. It totally makes sense that they didn't have the issues that we do today. I have never heard about the solider thing either--good info.

I agree with you about the pants vs skirt issue, because some of the skirts out now are so short that a women is more modest to wear pants. I'm glad your husband changed his mind about those issues. Personally, I think makeup is good as long as it isn't caked on.

It seems the headcovering is still on the table to discuss though, because that is one thing women always did. My husband doesn't want me to cover my head, so at least I don't have him to worry about. If you worked at a church would you think your husband would want you to cover your head?

Michelle
 
I can pretty solidly say that our husband doesn't agree with head covering for scriptural reasons at all. Like I said, we believe that our hair is our covering. In a sense we do work for a church, since we are actively involved in ministry, and all is not online. That said, though, he does encourage hats for protection from the sun and the cold. Mittens too, if they are warranted. LOL.

Now, if we were to visit a country that required its women to have their heads covered, we would follow the custom of where we were so as not to offend anyone. And also for safety's sake. He keeps joking about us wearing burkas, but I don't see that happening. If we did, how could he tell who was who?

Sweet Lissa
 
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